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  • RaisingArizona
    Registered User
    • Dec 2009
    • 5400

    #1

    Getting Into Trail Running?

    So I'm crazy busy with school and kind of bored with mountain biking. I need something new to do that's inexpensive and keeps me healthy. I just turned 40 and I'm not in top notch fitness form right now, I'm not fat or anything just not as lean as I'd like to be. Is trail running a good thing to get into? Is it boring? Do I have to wear those funny looking shorts? Is it going to fuck my already fucked up body more?

    Thanks.
    dirtbag, not a dentist
  • char
    ?
    • Dec 2002
    • 2870

    #2
    Best kind of running there is IMO. Wear whatever is comfortable, shoes with trail running tread are nice, but not necessary for a lot of trail running.

    But yeah, you should probably buy the latest and greatest shoe, those little water bottles that go on your hands, GPS watch, compression running tights before you even attempt. Also make sure to sign up for mapmyrun so you can humble brag. Will probably need an instagram account for the obligatory selfie at the high point.

    Edit- you will probably need to develop a shoe quiver. Budget $800 to get into this sport.
    "These are crazy times Mr Hatter, crazy times. Crazy like Buddha! Muwahaha!"

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    • Cruiser
      Sharp as a bowling ball.
      • Sep 2006
      • 8016

      #3
      Trail running is nice. This is a great time of year to start too. The leaves are changing. Temps are modest. Build some fitness now and then you ought to have the trails to yourself once the snow really begins to accumulate.
      Brandine: Now Cletus, if I catch you with pig lipstick on your collar one more time you ain't gonna be allowed to sleep in the barn no more!
      Cletus: Duly noted.

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      • RaisingArizona
        Registered User
        • Dec 2009
        • 5400

        #4
        Thanks. What kind of milage should I start out with?
        dirtbag, not a dentist

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        • dtown
          Registered User
          • Sep 2010
          • 975

          #5
          Don't forget to link mapmyrun account to Twitter and Facebook, plan for at least an additional 2 hours a week for social networking this new sport. Make sure to let everyone you know you may be contemplating a marathon.

          Outside of the above, I dig trail running just wish i lived somewhere I could do it right out the back door, seems counterproductive sometimes to get in the car and drive 20 min to go for a run.

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          • Cruiser
            Sharp as a bowling ball.
            • Sep 2006
            • 8016

            #6
            Not far. That's for sure. Build the miles and speed slowly. Walk intermittently if you need to. Don't push too hard cuz, at 40, you're old as fuck and you'll tear shit up if you try to go for big mileage and distance before you have a good athletic base. Just get out there a couple of times a week and see how your bits and pieces hold up. It'll be obvious if you overdo it, ya know?
            Brandine: Now Cletus, if I catch you with pig lipstick on your collar one more time you ain't gonna be allowed to sleep in the barn no more!
            Cletus: Duly noted.

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            • RaisingArizona
              Registered User
              • Dec 2009
              • 5400

              #7
              Originally posted by dtown
              Don't forget to link mapmyrun account to Twitter and Facebook, plan for at least an additional 2 hours a week for social networking this new sport. Make sure to let everyone you know you may be contemplating a marathon.

              Outside of the above, I dig trail running just wish i lived somewhere I could do it right out the back door, seems counterproductive sometimes to get in the car and drive 20 min to go for a run.
              There are trails right out the door. Not great biking ones tho and that's part of the thing with biking, I have to drive across town to the trail head.

              I'm thinking facebook updates about my training for a marathon and a big winter of ski touring will get a lot of likes. I'll probably do a lot of hash tags too like, #Trainingsohard #ThiswinterI'mgoingoff! #soblessed #lovelife etc.
              dirtbag, not a dentist

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              • Jamespio
                Registered User
                • Nov 2011
                • 2834

                #8
                Originally posted by RaisingArizona
                There are trails right out the door. Not great biking ones tho and that's part of the thing with biking, I have to drive across town to the trail head.

                I'm thinking facebook updates about my training for a marathon and a big winter of ski touring will get a lot of likes. I'll probably do a lot of hash tags too like, #Trainingsohard #ThiswinterI'mgoingoff! #soblessed #lovelife etc.
                This is a solid, fucking plan. Within a few weeks you'll have 1,000 new "friends," and not a single old one. But you'll have the kind of portfolio that can easily get you a position as the fifth man in an eight-man dragon boat crew, or maybe even a spot as the third alternate to run "support" for a major ultramarathoner.

                Seroiusly, though, there are trails outside, you known what a running shoe looks like, and presumably you know your own body. There really shouldn't be any other questions. I take up trail running about twice or three times a year, I highly recommend it. The taking it up part at least, you get one good jog in, you feel great, then you don't do it again for a few months.
                "Judge me by the enemies I have made." -FDR

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                • Big Steve
                  mere tourist
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 13239

                  #9
                  Originally posted by RaisingArizona
                  What kind of milage should I start out with?
                  Trail running rule #1: Think time, not miles. Start with, say, a 30 or 45 minute jog/walk. Don't get all macho stupid and run the uphills if it's more efficient to walk them. World class ultrarunners walk some uphills. (Yeah, they can walk uphill fast as fuck, but it's walking nonetheless.)

                  Typical conversation among ultrarunners goes something like this:
                  "Did you run yesterday?"
                  "Yup, I ran four."
                  "Good work. I got only three in."
                  Translation: One guy ran 4 hours; the other guy ran 3 hours.

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                  • Meadow Skipper
                    Me encanta el país alto
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 16764

                    #10
                    Trail running rocks. I don't think it's boring because I like the scenery on trails I go on and usually include a peak or high point. I hate running laps at a track or on roads, and I think the unevenness of trails helps develop more muscle groups.

                    I use regular shoes with extra forefoot cushioning - Asics Gel-Nimbus in my case - and shorts that are a little longer to prevent chafing - Patagooch Nine Trails I think. I run on rocky trails so I like my shoes with extra forefoot cushioning or protection. I've seen some nice shoes supposedly designed for trail running, but I don't believe they're necessary. It might be worth getting some advice on what fits/suits your foot from a running shop. I know what works for my foot so usually pick up last year's at a discount.

                    I wear shades usually - light ones, with sticky-type pads.

                    My distance varies on how I feel, elevation gain, weather, time available, etc. Solid advice above from Cruiser and Big Steve.
                    I’m shining like a new dime

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                    • dtown
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 975

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Big Steve
                      Trail running rule #1: Think time, not miles. Start with, say, a 30 or 45 minute jog/walk. Don't get all macho stupid and run the uphills if it's more efficient to walk them. World class ultrarunners walk some uphills. (Yeah, they can walk uphill fast as fuck, but it's walking nonetheless.)

                      Typical conversation among ultrarunners goes something like this:
                      "Did you run yesterday?"
                      "Yup, I ran four."
                      "Good work. I got only three in."
                      Translation: One guy ran 4 hours; the other guy ran 3 hours.
                      This...just like mountain biking is to road biking, a 5 mile run on a trail is vastly different than 5 miles on pavement. I like trails because they keep your mind active vs running on the road gets boring fast.

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                      • Viva
                        A very naughty rodent
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 13614

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RaisingArizona
                        So I'm crazy...
                        We know- that's why you're here.

                        Originally posted by RaisingArizona
                        I need something new to do that's inexpensive and keeps me healthy.
                        Running shoes (any fucking kind, so long as they fit you properly and don't cause any owies), and a water bottle, or two, as you mileage (and temperatures) increase.

                        Originally posted by RaisingArizona
                        Is trail running a good thing to get into? Is it boring?
                        That's for you to decide. Go out and fucking run. Report back here with your conclusions. Happy trails!
                        Your dog just ate an avocado!

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                        • I've seen black diamonds!
                          ____________________
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 8495

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Big Steve
                          Trail running rule #1: Think time, not miles. Start with, say, a 30 or 45 minute jog/walk. Don't get all macho stupid and run the uphills if it's more efficient to walk them. World class ultrarunners walk some uphills. (Yeah, they can walk uphill fast as fuck, but it's walking nonetheless.)

                          Typical conversation among ultrarunners goes something like this:
                          "Did you run yesterday?"
                          "Yup, I ran four."
                          "Good work. I got only three in."
                          Translation: One guy ran 4 hours; the other guy ran 3 hours.
                          I wish I listened to all the good running advice posted by Big Steve and others over the years, but I'm too fucking impatient. I started running regularly a few years ago. I ran too fast and tried to run too many miles without letting my body recover. I got hurt. Had to take time off. Then I'd do it all over again. I knew I what I was doing wrong, but I couldn't help it. I wanted to be able to run fast all day now.

                          Then I had a conversation with a coworker that opened my mind. He was a D1 college runner who runs 2:30 marathons despite being a busy dad who only runs 4 days a week. He told me, "I get passed all the time by fat fucks who run marathons an hour slower than me. I bet your one of those guys." He was right.

                          This spring I slowed the fuck down. I get passed by fat fucks who are huffing and puffing. But I can run for a couple hours and wake up feeling pretty fresh the next day. And when I do run hard I'm much faster than before (but still not fast). I made more progress in the past 5 months than in the previous 5 years.

                          So don't be like me. Walk the hills. Increase the mileage gradually. And run pretty darn slow most of the time.

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                          • hutash
                            Don't Panic
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 22450

                            #14
                            Don't worry too much about miles or time right now, just go out for an easy short run that is comfortable. Walk when you need to and allow your old fucking body to adapt slow to the changes. As above run slow to go fast, especially for the first six months to a year depending on your body. You will soon find yourself going longer and faster without the injuries or stress. Get a heart rate monitor if you don't have one, figure out your zones and run in the lower zones until you body lets you up your game. (See Big Steve's links in the running thread.)

                            It has worked for my even fucken older body, and I have not had a single injury or problem. I am off to do another half in about two weeks.

                            I agree it is a constitutional right for Americans to be assholes...its just too bad that so many take the opportunity...
                            iscariot

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                            • Tahoe Bromide
                              Registered User
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 195

                              #15
                              Best part of trail running is no real gear to gather or fiddle with. Put on your shoes and go.
                              Big bonus of trail running in the fall is getting strong on the downhills always translates to being ready to ski. At least for me.
                              I also agree that walking/hiking is part of trail running. As your fitness improves you'll find yourself running through sections you always used to walk. It is all about time, not distance. Listen to your body too.

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