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09-29-2015, 06:21 PM #51Jacket Cobbler
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I think our office discussed with you today but we did not get more info such as chest, waist, arm length etc. This helps. However, I was with co-worker today in car and I brought it up and he is about your size and wearing large sneffles today. He looked normal in it . Can you double check and make sure you are not in XL
Are you referring to the old Polartec 200 kind of bulky big hoodie?
noted , but all these things run cost up (not too awful bad but it adds up) except pull on zipper which is probably the easiest to add . I have to say I added one to my own recently....so I will put this in place starting tomorrow for future orders...anybody that needs one, we will send to you for free if you send us an email at help@freeridesystems.comwww.freeridesystems.com
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09-30-2015, 06:12 AM #52
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09-30-2015, 09:37 AM #53Jacket Cobbler
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Fit in terms of size is probably same. However, the bross is going to be a lot less bulky. I wear size large in that heavy polartec 200 piece and I use a size large bross. I actually jammed myself into a medium sneffles when I wanted pretty close tight fit to ski with but ended up giving to customer and now I am back to large there as well
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10-02-2015, 12:31 PM #54
"I'm waiting for my current jacket to wear out," is lame rationale for not buying a Freeride immediately.
My Antero is my go-to layer 90% of the time. Eager to see the convertible bibpant legcoverings.
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10-02-2015, 05:28 PM #55
My Moonstone jacket is showing its age. Ill need to check these out. Love to help out a local biz.
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10-02-2015, 10:54 PM #56Jacket Cobbler
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10-02-2015, 11:05 PM #57Jacket Cobbler
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02-07-2016, 11:48 PM #58
Hm, the 2+ looks really nice. Is the interior fuzzy at all?
Would love some picture of the interiors too. Not really getting the difference between the 2+ and 3. The 3 is lighter? I'm a fan of heavy shells. Gortex sofshell, etc.
TIA.
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02-08-2016, 08:23 AM #59
I'd trade in my antero 2 towards a 2+ if it was as bomber, but lighter. Sounds like a great jacket.
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02-08-2016, 08:52 AM #60
Freeride Systems outerwear
Freeride Systems t-shirt is also waterproof breathable -- good for layering up in all conditions
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02-08-2016, 09:33 AM #61Jacket Cobbler
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^Thanks for all the great positive shout outs!
I have put together a little run down on the differences/similarities of all of our made in Colorado jackets. I have been a die hard hybrid softshell wearer for the last 5 years. I have to test all of our stuff and have to say that the 2+ is a great jacket and its pure hardshell. I think there is time,place, and use for each fabric.
The Antero 2 is a hybrid softshell jacket with waterproof windproof breathable membrane, has slight stretch, noiseless, fully seam taped, pit zips , and our Arc'teryx inspired style hood collar system which allows for easy up and over helmet without unzipping the front zipper. There are also 4 open pockets for storage along with one zippered inside the jacket (except on MedTall but I will make this the same next year hopefully). This jacket is heavier than the next two and requires less layering to be worn underneath it. The interior of the jacket is a gridded low wicking polyester micro fleece. The collar may be cinched to bring it in close to the face with or without helmet. This is primarily a skier/riders jacket. We use Polartec and Gore Windstopper laminates depending on which Antero 2 you select (Gore: Blackcherry and White)
The Antero 2 Plus is the exact same as Antero 2 but made from Polartec Neoshell Hardshell laminate. This jacket does not have insulating properties and is half the weight of the Antero 2. This jacket has a tricot nylon interior to protect the membrane. This jacket is not noiseless. There is very little noticeable stretch. This is a skiers/riders jacket. Turns out from my own use and feedback that although there is no physical fabric insulating material, the fabric/membrane system helps to manage your body heat and it is in fact a warm jacket with correct layers. For instance, I wore one in -minus temps last week in Southern San Juans for lift accessed and hike to and only wore one or two base layer shirts and either our sneffles (sold out) or bross light midlayer and was toasty. I had packed a Polartec 200 weight jacket in the car but it never had to come out. I have used the 200 jacket with sled accessed tours at Vail Pass and that ranged from 50mph+ sled rides/ digs, to low mph no boarding jump and get buried.
The Antero 3 is different than the 2 models above. It has a traditional one piece neck/collar/hood rising enough to block the wearers face when fully zipped. The hood fits over a helmet but you mush unzip the front zipper some to get started. There is one internal zippered pocket. It is not noiseless. It is made with Polartec Neoshell hardshell with tricot interior. It is the lightest of the 3 jackets. There is very little noticeable stretch. Jacket has pit zips This jacket can span use and go casual just as easy as on the mountain. Also have used this extensively with our R-1 midlayer and the polartec 200 jacket or vest depending on activity and temps.
Antero 4 Component Jacket System utilizing Polartec 200 zip in vests and jackets. More on this later. Vests and jackets are already for sale on our website.
Pants/bibs.....we shall see, but... I have been bootpacking, skiing, sledding, testing, and trying to tear up a pair all season and just not sure if we will launch the pants game. I went to a sourcing event and the Chinese will sell a pair of pants to a US Brand for $25 or less. Costs more with branded fabrics and zippers but it is still way way way cheap. I wanted to see how much other brands that use overseas labor are really paying for product that we produce domestically. The answer: not much. That being said, pants can blow out. Brands replacing or warrantying Chinese pants have a huge profit margin to reconcile their losses. Freeride Systems is self funded through sales and has no lines of credit , etc and cannot handle a mass loss, or finance a mass loss and carry it to the next year, or cover from OPM invested capital. So, not sure if pants will happen commercially. Ive got the proven 4 year design down , but pants get a lot of harsh treatment....
Here's what the latest version has
double knees with insert to add kneepads
hybrid softshell fabric
velcro snapping gaiters with breathabilty
roomy rear pockets with velcro
beacon carrying front pockets
double cross vented legs with very long outside zipper
zippered outside bottom cuffs
no P fly (gives plenty of room to pee outside without bringing it back in the pants)
SuperFabric® cuffs
Pants can be worn with or without base layer. Many days I just wear boxers. (not storm days or - minus temp days)www.freeridesystems.com
ski & ride jackets made in colorado
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ok we'll come up with a solution by then makers....
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02-08-2016, 11:48 AM #62
So the 2+ is a hard shell with a hint of strech? That's nice even without the fuzz. Do you have some pics of the inside. Sounds like a really nice piece and so do the pants.
Too bad about materials pricing. That's an even bigger markup than I thought. Kinda depressing.
Will you be doing another run of your Prospectors? How do they run? I'm between a 32 and 34 inch waist (ok, I'm probably not a 32 anymore).
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02-08-2016, 12:12 PM #63
Just to comment on an earlier part of this thread - sending in garments that are washed is standard procedure in this industry, from The North Face to Patagonia to FlyLow they all request it in their return / warranty details.
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02-08-2016, 12:57 PM #64Jacket Cobbler
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i just came in from skiing and there is very slight stretch but not much. but not zero. I doubt we will be making any cotton pants soon. just too much to manage and deal with to do a run. I'm spread thin. I am putting most effort in to making the best domestic made jackets that we can make. If you want to order prospect cotton pants just order 34 and we will send you 34 and 36 and you can send back what does not work
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ski & ride jackets made in colorado
maggot discount code TGR20
ok we'll come up with a solution by then makers....
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02-08-2016, 05:09 PM #65
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02-08-2016, 05:34 PM #66
Another +1 for MiCol. Dude is as solid as they come. Ethical business guy that has crazy PASSION for what he does. I need a new jacket myself, it's certainly gonna be a FRS. Keep on keeping on Mike!
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02-08-2016, 10:08 PM #67
I've been rocking the Antero 3 for a week and a half and I've skiied in it 6 days in conditions ranging from wind and snow, to rain, and warm sunshine. This shell rocks. The only gripes I had with my older softshell have been addressed and everything is dialed. Breathes better than pro shell I can wear a fleece midlayer under this coat without overheating, never could do that before.
But Ellen kicks ass - if she had a beard it would be much more haggard. -Jer
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02-10-2016, 10:12 PM #68
Skiied in it in pissing rain this afternoon. I was dry and comfortable. Drier than rubber Raingear.
But Ellen kicks ass - if she had a beard it would be much more haggard. -Jer
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02-10-2016, 10:35 PM #69
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02-12-2016, 08:07 AM #70
I have monkey arms and norrona is only long enough to not be a problem. How is XL sneffles? I wear 36/37 dress shirts if I can
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02-12-2016, 08:46 AM #71
I bought a Sneffles in large and it's too big on me, and I normally wear large. (35 sleeve shirts, if that helps)
The item itself is fucking awesome, just not a great fit for me.
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02-12-2016, 10:03 AM #72
I'm 6-5 200 w/ a 42L jacket, 16 neck/36 sleeve.
The XL is huge on me. I can fit my partner in there with me.
Sleeve length covers my thumbs
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Lotta volume in the body
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And the fabric is stretchy so movement is pretty easy in it
Less of a climber's fit, more of a skittles fit
big pockets too
Next time, I'd go down to a L
For monkey arms, I think it'd work out ok
Definitely a much larger fit than my XL Mammut hoodie midlayerLast edited by acinpdx; 02-12-2016 at 10:26 AM.
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02-12-2016, 02:23 PM #73Jacket Cobbler
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^ on that sizing... all of our frs stuff has been the equivalent of most other brands size larger. For example that xl sneffles could be a 2X or 3x with other brands. For instance we had a 2X trade from Mammut on a jacket and it fit everyone in our office like our Large. Why is it like this? Because that's what we started with in year one. Would we do it again that way...most likely not.
Are we going to try to fix it so its the same as other brands? Perhaps, but because there are so many styles and types of garments it almost seems better to keep most garments fitting the same i.e. if you buy a Large Antero 2 , get the large bross.. etc. We never completely run out of anything to start from ground zero because we are always sewing. So, migration could be done but there are other more pressing time investments right now.
Every single person that orders gets an email from one of our cs reps confirming that the right size has been ordered. That dialogue is also good for helping people find the right jacket from our 4 different versions, so we enjoy providing that service. Most of the time it is happening pre-buy through the standard Q& A process.
If you buy something from us you will get a follow up email from cs. If you ask us a queston pre-buy we are going to discuss sizing.
btw the arms on the sneffles and bross are made to ride above the wrist due to the narrowness and stretyness of the the fabric. Unless you have very tiny hands the sleeves usually will ride above the hand on wrist.www.freeridesystems.com
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02-12-2016, 02:30 PM #74Jacket Cobbler
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you should probably go large on bross but we did shorten the bross arms by 2" versus sneffles so take that into account. Email our cs at help@freeridesystems.com and they can really assist well with total fit
www.freeridesystems.com
ski & ride jackets made in colorado
maggot discount code TGR20
ok we'll come up with a solution by then makers....
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02-17-2016, 12:36 PM #75
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