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    Quote Originally Posted by uglymoney View Post
    Ran up to Minnesota and picked up my six speed 3 pedal Alltrack today. The car has zero need for more power imo. Display read 32 + mpg when I arrived home. Fun car.
    You might feel differently if you regularly drove at altitude. My thought on adequate power changed when I moved from NY to CO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds! View Post
    You might feel differently if you regularly drove at altitude. My thought on adequate power changed when I moved from NY to CO.
    Yeah I get it. It is really a personal preference thing also. My old Subaru has plenty of power too, for me, everywhere I have taken it. Definitely nowhere near as fast as this thing.
    Last edited by uglymoney; 10-10-2018 at 07:22 PM.

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    I drive above 6000' 95% of my life.
    My experience is that most people don't necessarily need more power, just bigger balls.
    And genuine driving skills.

    Shittons of sporty power rigs in JH. Fucktard drivers won't get the lead out for nothing...until you go to pass them. Then they get all whacked.

    I float between being extra polite and IDGAF about you. Roughly40/60.

    I'll put my stock '12 tdi against almost anything. Obviously not a killer. But I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djongo Unchained View Post

    I'll put my stock '12 tdi against almost anything. Obviously not a killer. But I am.

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    PE, Mechanical Engineering

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    Quote Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds! View Post
    You might feel differently if you regularly drove at altitude. My thought on adequate power changed when I moved from NY to CO.
    That's fairly irrelevant for turbo motors, right?

    I recently had to sell my Gen2 Xterra with the 6sp MT. Yeah, not a wagon, but it was fun as shit to drive and God I miss it. Like a burly jacked up version of my old WRX. Need to convince the Mrs. that her Rogue needs to go in favor of a MT wagon. Of course, the used market here for AWD MT wagons under $10k is nothing but Subarus and the occasional Audi that is probably being sold because it's a money pit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uglymoney View Post
    Yeah I get it. It is really a personal preference thing also. My old Subaru has plenty of power too, for me, everywhere I have taken it. Definitely nowhere near as fast as this thing.
    Thatís definitely encouraging, and insightful. But thereís a difference in the power you feel riding solo and thinking your new-ish rig feels sporty versus 6-7 years and 120k miles down the road when youíre driving it loaded down with shit on top and off the back and a Winnebago just passed you on Vail Pass. ..... and youíre worried about pushing it too hard because of head gaskets and CVT tranny failure and rattles or whatever the fuck. Get back to me then and let me know if it has plenty of power.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jm2e View Post
    Thatís definitely encouraging, and insightful. But thereís a difference in the power you feel riding solo and thinking your new-ish rig feels sporty versus 6-7 years and 120k miles down the road when youíre driving it loaded down with shit on top and off the back and a Winnebago just passed you on Vail Pass. ..... and youíre worried about pushing it too hard because of head gaskets and CVT tranny failure and rattles or whatever the fuck. Get back to me then and let me know if it has plenty of power.


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    Huh? I don't know how to respond to bullshit questions like this. I'm not here to tell you how much hp you need. I have owned my 02 MT5 2.5na Outback since it was new...230000 miles of loading that thing to the gills and hauling ass down interstates and up mountain passes. Always enough power for ME. My opinion. You can have your opinion and we can both be correct.

    And I never worry about flogging the shit out of my cars or blowing the head gaskets since I installed them myself and I trust my work. Maybe that is why that Subie is still running great. Took it to Wyoming this summer with four people and a dog and a trunk full if backpacks and a cooler and set the cruise at 85 mph and passed a bunch of cars with a lot more power than I had...I wonder if they felt underpowered when they saw me go passed turning 4k rpm in a midwest shitbox with rust holes in the rear quarters. Figured the worst thing that could happen is it blew up and we rent a van to get home. Now stepsons pride and joy.
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    Wagon Stoke

    buy based on that log curve bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jm2e View Post
    That’s definitely encouraging, and insightful. But there’s a difference in the power you feel riding solo and thinking your new-ish rig feels sporty versus 6-7 years and 120k miles down the road when you’re driving it loaded down with shit on top and off the back and a Winnebago just passed you on Vail Pass. ..... and you’re worried about pushing it too hard because of head gaskets and CVT tranny failure and rattles or whatever the fuck. Get back to me then and let me know if it has plenty of power.


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    100% Truth. I spent the last decade "rocketing' my subarus (2.2, 3.0 and 2.5i - all bought with ~120k) up passes and heavily laden across the interstates at high speed. Sure, they feel like they "do the trick," but in reality, they're struggling and you're always crossing your fingers that it just keeps going. The 3.0 was decent, but unresponsive and lacking with the tranny and other gremlins.

    Now I've got the Alltrack and while over the first month I felt like the thing was a sports car and had plenty of power, my sentiment soon faded. Today we crossed the 10,000mi mark and a years worth of loaded-up camping/biking trips and high mountain passes have made me really want the extra grunt of the APR tune and the matching satisfaction of Allroad power at a $1000 increase.

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    Android Auto integration is super cool. Makes this base model feel pretty loaded with google maps up on the dash and seamless calling/text to voice. Base Alltracks come with 17 inch wheels instead of 18 inch wheels as well. Cheaper tougher tires with a better ride.

    Looks like guys are going 205/65 16 for snows and having no problems. One guy claims 215/65 16 will work with no rubbing.

    I think we will be fine for rear seat legroom but need to figure out how to add 5 cubic feet to trunk! Will definitely need to utilize my two Yakima boxes in various combinations.

    Still have old reliable 4R for trips my stepson goes with us on for the next couple three years till he opts out of them altogether. I can't stand the idea of burning the 4r up as a daily and soaking it in salt all winter when I need it as a tow vehicle and the fuel burn difference pays for the insurance and registration plus some for the Alltrack.Wife vetoed awd Sienna. I wanted the stick. No perfect solution till Subaru makes an Outback on the global platform and puts a manual in it which is not happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uglymoney View Post
    I think we will be fine for rear seat legroom but need to figure out how to add 5 cubic feet to trunk!
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    In case you haven't found it yet, there are two heights for the rear cargo shelf. If you pull it out (heh) and remove all of the plastic supports you can then put the shelf at the lower height. I don't think it's 5 cu. ft. but it does make a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tortoise View Post
    In case you haven't found it yet, there are two heights for the rear cargo shelf. If you pull it out (heh) and remove all of the plastic supports you can then put the shelf at the lower height. I don't think it's 5 cu. ft. but it does make a difference.
    Okay cool! I was totally eyeing all that space under there above the spare and plotting ways to utilize it. The forward tool compartment is cool.

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    I think you end up losing the tool compartment when it gets lowered. Worth the trade-off. I tend to run it in the lower position in the summer when we're packing the car full of camping gear and higher in the winter when it's just ski stuff.

    The manual sort of explains it but it's not hard to figure out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tortoise View Post
    I think you end up losing the tool compartment when it gets lowered. Worth the trade-off. I tend to run it in the lower position in the summer when we're packing the car full of camping gear and higher in the winter when it's just ski stuff.

    The manual sort of explains it but it's not hard to figure out.
    Looking at it right now. Looks like various configurations will work. I will take a look at the manual.

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    Twin turbo v6 6spd manual + Quattro. The new bmw 328d with x-drive looks rad, but until I win the lottery this wagon ticks off all the boxes.


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    This looks.... interesting.

    I'd love one of these.

    https://insideevs.com/tesla-model-s-...ake-video/amp/

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    Quote Originally Posted by grskier View Post
    This looks.... interesting.

    I'd love one of these.

    https://insideevs.com/tesla-model-s-...ake-video/amp/
    Maybe it's better in person but that d pillar looks pretty terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil E View Post
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    Twin turbo v6 6spd manual + Quattro. The new bmw 328d with x-drive looks rad, but until I win the lottery this wagon ticks off all the boxes.


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    I have the same bike rack. Kinda sketchy at speed, amirite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Self Jupiter View Post
    I have the same bike rack. Kinda sketchy at speed, amirite?
    Yeah, I got one for free and itís a POS.

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    Everyone is home this morning. The wagon and dog quiver.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Self Jupiter View Post
    I have the same bike rack. Kinda sketchy at speed, amirite?
    Truth.


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    Quote Originally Posted by uglymoney View Post
    Everyone is home this morning. The wagon and dog quiver.


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    You might as well live in Boulder or SLC with that car family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simple View Post
    You might as well live in Boulder or SLC with that car family.
    Hehe. Wife did live in Boulder once upon a time. Unique quiver round these parts though...I figure I pretty much cover the bases as far as giving people a reason to question my sanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simple View Post
    You might as well live in Boulder or SLC with that car family.
    Add a Tacoma, and he's in Bellingham.

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    FYI looks like the regal tourx wagons are getting discounts around 10k, likely a nice ride for 26-27k

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