Wagon Stoke

[nfaust]

Speaking of BMW, the 3 series wagon is officially dead. Kinda sad, I searched high and low for a 2012 stick shift 328i wagon several years ago but never found once that I didn't have to take an airplane to purchase.

I've been looking for an MT, AWD, LCI E91 off and on for a while. They're certainly rare but they're out there, although I agree they seem to be going quicker (and costing more) now. A 2012 specifically might be harder though - I'm not 100% sure but I don't think 2012 was a full production year before they switched over to the F30.

The F30 without a manual might as well have been dead. There is a 2006 e91 MT in my driveway it is a very nice car but could really use the turbo engine to be a bit quicker and isn't as sharp as an e46. If you can live with the smaller package a Golf R seems like the best MT hatchback option these days.

Have you looked at doing the 3 stage intake manifold?

[carlh]

I've been looking for an MT, AWD, LCI E91 off and on for a while. They're certainly rare but they're out there, although I agree they seem to be going quicker (and costing more) now. A 2012 specifically might be harder though - I'm not 100% sure but I don't think 2012 was a full production year before they switched over to the F30.


Have you looked at doing the 3 stage intake manifold?

Yes, it give some extra power up high if you find someone to tune it on a dyno, just swapping the parts doesn't do much. If I was going to throw money at the car I would find a s55 motor out of a wrecked 335 and swap it but I don't that much cash to burn.

[simple]

Up high is good for drag racing, not real world driving. Found the same with motorcycles. Give me torque...

[nfaust]

Yes, it give some extra power up high if you find someone to tune it on a dyno, just swapping the parts doesn't do much.

You certainly need the tune but you don't necessarily need the dyno work - just a matter of how far you want to take it. Personally getting back up to a stock 330 power/torque levels would be fine for a daily for me.

If I was going to throw money at the car I would find a s55 motor out of a wrecked 335 and swap it but I don't that much cash to burn.

I assume you mean a N55 (S55 is in the new M2, M3 and M4), but one of these is not like the other...you can do the manifold and tune in a weekend for far shorter money and time then an engine swap and the associated maintenance of the N55.

[Mustonen]

The allroad I purchased a couple months ago is hard up at the shop. Fingers crossed it comes out of it for not a lot, but having no wheels I walked across the street to the Buick dealership on my lunch break to test drive a TourX.

Nice car. Looks, feels, and IS quite a bit bigger than the allroad, but not in the way that a truck or big sedan feels more capable.... more like unwieldly. Peppy enough, though. And easy to drive on the freeway.

[uglymoney]

I have off-roaded a subaru a bunch, with a stick, and as you could guess it's really limited because you can't crawl up stuff, you just spin instead. So you have to hit stuff with a bit of speed to get going on steep pitches, which can be sketchy as hell. Those AT tires probably help a bunch in those loose, steep scenarios, but ya, it'll never be geared like a truck. Gas milage on that thing is probably like any SUV and truck so: TLDR: BasinBeater is right!

He is right absolutely. That added height helped me tackle some uphill stuff with confidence at speed though. Made up a little bit for the uselessness of a stick shift with no low range off road.

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[Labcabin]

[Norseman]

Nice

[Labcabin]

Its giving me ideas. Apparently, Yakima makes a rail system that will sit flush and fit as a perfect replacement to the plastic factory Subaru system. The headliner has to come out to get the factory rails off. But......

[gravitylover]

I'm seeing more and more of the Buick wagons on the road now. I wonder if it's because the prices are bargain basement great... It's a good looking car and for the price it sure is well speced. I just worry about buying a car built by a company that has just changed ownership and may not be supported as well as necessary in 3-5 years.

[MontuckyFried]

I'm seeing more and more of the Buick wagons on the road now. I wonder if it's because the prices are bargain basement great... It's a good looking car and for the price it sure is well speced. I just worry about buying a car built by a company that has just changed ownership and may not be supported as well as necessary in 3-5 years.

Went to do a quick Autotrader search for Buick wagons, priced low to high. While I came across a gazillion smoking good deals on new models, THIS fine specimen showed up first in the results. At $500, this thing's just begging for an LS swap. Toss in a Tremec T56 to go with it, and I'd be golden.
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ngId=502392040

Going the totally wrong way from my proposed ancient Prius plug-in conversion I want to tool around with next time, but man a beater Roadmaster could be a LOT of fun for a silly project car. Haha.

[HankScorpio]

I'm seeing more and more of the Buick wagons on the road now. I wonder if it's because the prices are bargain basement great... It's a good looking car and for the price it sure is well speced. I just worry about buying a car built by a company that has just changed ownership and may not be supported as well as necessary in 3-5 years.

So the Buick wagon is a rebadged Opel, correct? Are the US ones made in Germany?

[liv2ski]

Are the US ones made in Germany?

That is my understanding. I would not be afraid of buying one, but the start/stop function with no delete feature along with an AT is a serious issue for me. Two things I hate.

[HankScorpio]

That is my understanding. I would not be afraid of buying one, but the start/stop function with no delete feature along with an AT is a serious issue for me. Two things I hate.

I'd even be okay with a DSG but AT in a turbo wagon is a tough sell. And yes, auto start/stop is the worst feature to catch on in the car industry in years. I'd still consider one for my wife when her Alltrack lease is up next fall.

[4matic]

I drove a GLK with eco start stop and I thought it was seamless.

[bourbonisgood]

I drove a GLK with eco start stop and I thought it was seamless.

I’d say the same about the start/stop system in the B9 Allroad/A4. Engine fires up before you can move your foot from pedal to pedal. That said, I’ll drive in “s” mode or toggle the feature off for certain situations

[shroom]

https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/c...778311736.html

[uglymoney]

I finally took the Alltrack in for rear window tinting at 5%. For the love of god I cannot stand driving around in a fishbowl. Should be a standard feature on every wagon sold.

Titified...errr... tintified.

Almost 5k already. The little wagon is starting to grow on me and I am a little less uneasy with the VW moniker with everything running perfectly. Getting an easy 26.5 mixed with that massive box.

This picture sucks.

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[Cono Este]

I finally took the Alltrack in for rear window tinting at 5%. For the love of god I cannot stand driving around in a fishbowl. Should be a standard feature on every wagon sold.

Titified...errr... tintified.

Almost 5k already. The little wagon is starting to grow on me and I am a little less uneasy with the VW moniker with everything running perfectly. Getting an easy 26.5 mixed with that massive box.

This picture sucks.

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Sweet wagon.


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[uglymoney]

^Thanks Cono. I'll put a cleaner photo up sometime to do the rig proper justice.

Spotted in the wilds of Iowa on jr race league day with Wisco plates. Looked good. Not sure I like the rear view irl and I hate short boxes on wagons but the Tour X itself looks really nice from this angle.

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[liv2ski]

It is a good looking car except for the excessively sloped rear roof line and small rear side windows

[funkendrenchman]

FS: 2008 Subaru Outback XT Limited manual 73k miles
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...d.php?t=325179

[DBdude]

It is a good looking car except for the excessively sloped rear roof line and small rear side windows

and no ground clearance

[liv2ski]

and no ground clearance

I would line up to buy this car in a heart beat

[Bobcat Sig]

I finally took the Alltrack in for rear window tinting at 5%. For the love of god I cannot stand driving around in a fishbowl. Should be a standard feature on every wagon sold.

Titified...errr... tintified.

Almost 5k already. The little wagon is starting to grow on me and I am a little less uneasy with the VW moniker with everything running perfectly. Getting an easy 26.5 mixed with that massive box.

This picture sucks.

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The wife replaced her totalled GTI with an AllTrack. That wagon is radical caked. I'm a big fan of it and all the features. Terrific deal. I even have her convinced to get an ECU flash and a lift

I would line up to buy this car in a heart beat

That makes my pants tight. 10/10 would bang.