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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyg82 View Post
    When I bought an a4 last summer the dealer had one on the show room floor. I was haggling over my little wagon and the manager asked if I wanted to just step up to the avant. Sure, why not?

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    I still call it The Jake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    ďthis 540i has been fitted with a 6-speed manual transmission, which BMW never offered from the factory.Ē

    Is that considered a plus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ::: ::: View Post
    “this 540i has been fitted with a 6-speed manual transmission, which BMW never offered from the factory.”

    Is that considered a plus?
    I believe the kids call that a feature.

    There's another 540 touring on CAB right now that I think looks even better.

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rwe...w-540i-touring
    I still call it The Jake.

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    Heat and power functions are inoperable on front seats
    Cracks in interior plastic trim
    Scratches on door cards
    Pixels are missing in radio and HVAC displays
    Cruise control is inoperable
    Steering column adjustment is inoperable
    Check engine light is illuminated
    Airbag warning light is illuminated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Core Shot View Post
    Heat and power functions are inoperable on front seats
    Cracks in interior plastic trim
    Scratches on door cards
    Pixels are missing in radio and HVAC displays
    Cruise control is inoperable
    Steering column adjustment is inoperable
    Check engine light is illuminated
    Airbag warning light is illuminated
    And already $10K w/ 4 days left to bid. Plus approaching 200K. This thing easily still needs thousands more to sort everything out completely. This is exactly what's kept me from old BMW wagons these days. The desire is obviously still strong if they're commanding such high prices for not low mile, non-perfect examples. I really do miss the BMW of old as that era really was fantastic in so many ways, so I DO understand the demand. It just sucks is all.

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    Where's your usual sense of automotive adventure?

    The other 540 touring I think looks way better despite its salvage title history.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    The m62 and the getrag 420g 6 speed is a wonderful combination.
    sigless.

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    Redditís guide to 80s wagons.
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    Wood is good

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    Xpost from Edmund Fitzgerald thread.

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    focus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyCarter View Post
    Reddit’s guide to 80s wagons.
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    When I was born my Mom made my Dad trade in his 914 for a Pontiac Safari wagon. It took him over a decade to forgive me.




    Quote Originally Posted by Mustonen View Post
    Xpost from Edmund Fitzgerald thread.

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    Two massive boats. Game recognize game.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    Wagon with 193k miles in for service to fix CEL exhaust leak. Nothing major. Hasnít had service in years:

    Catalytic converter leaking (weld)

    Fuel sender and fuel pressure gauge leaking (expired manufacturer repair)

    Front tie rods ( cheap and easy)

    Coolant flush and new expansion tank, hoses

    Transmission mount and hangers.

    Alignment

    Transfer case fluid

    Oil

    Not bad. Itís been 20k miles since the oil was changed. No estimate yet but Iím guessing $1500?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    Wagon with 193k miles in for service to fix CEL exhaust leak. Nothing major. Hasnít had service in years:

    Catalytic converter leaking (weld)

    Fuel sender and fuel pressure gauge leaking (expired manufacturer repair)

    Front tie rods ( cheap and easy)

    Coolant flush and new expansion tank, hoses

    Transmission mount and hangers.

    Alignment

    Transfer case fluid

    Oil

    Not bad. Itís been 20k miles since the oil was changed. No estimate yet but Iím guessing $1500?
    That catalytic converter leak might be a killer. Lot of shops won't touch them for any kind of repair, only replace. What's up with the 20k no oil change ?
    If you need to pay for the fuel sender/pressure regulator probably closer to $2500 if their willing to fix the exhaust leak.

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    You hate your car 4matic? No service for 20k miles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    When I was born my Mom made my Dad trade in his 914 for a Pontiac Safari wagon. It took him over a decade to forgive me.
    ďSon, weíre getting a divorce, and itís mostly your faultĒ

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    Wagon Stoke

    M119 engine is bullet proof. Maybe the best V8 ever. Oil not really that dirty. Mechanic not too concerned about the cat repair. Although, we do that first. 20 minutes to remove the exhaust and an hour at most to weld. I talked to the fab.

    Fuel sender repair is a snap and the parts are cheap
    https://youtu.be/Y17vgxsYkAQ

    Time might be a bit much but 20k miles is not a big deal for full synthetic.

    https://youtu.be/l-zDt9FGJi8

    Weíll push the tranny fluid at least another year since the interval is 50k miles. Iím at about 50k now but heíll check for color. No need to change brake fluid either if the color is good.

    The spark plugs are original and Iíll just wait for a misfire. Plugs and wires are an expensive repair.

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    You can mitigate the tiny leak in the fuel sender by 3/4 filling the tank. Itís just a tiny leak that only happens when the tank is full.

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    Anyone driving/like/hate the V90 T6 Cross Country? I'm mildly in the market for a new ride and it seems like the used market for them must not be very hot. Lots of low mileage examples sitting at dealers for months with multiple price drops.

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    ďAs production car engines go, the Mercedes M119 is one of the best ever made, hugely strong and tuneable, so good that Mercedes used them to kick ass at LeMans and had perfect reliability even using the factory crankshaft.Ē

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyCarter View Post
    “Son, we’re getting a divorce, and it’s mostly your fault”
    I mean, I wouldn't blame him.

    Quote Originally Posted by kathleenturneroverdrive View Post
    Anyone driving/like/hate the V90 T6 Cross Country? I'm mildly in the market for a new ride and it seems like the used market for them must not be very hot. Lots of low mileage examples sitting at dealers for months with multiple price drops.
    Someone here has one and likes it, the name is escaping me.

    Cue preemptive speculative complains about turbocharged and supercharged 4 bangers, although I haven't really heard of any when I poke around about those wagons.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    When I was born my Mom made my Dad trade in his 914 for a Pontiac Safari wagon. It took him over a decade to forgive me.

    Rough. My dad still gripes about having to trade his BMW Bavaria for a Mazda wagon (and a Civic). I'll tell him it could have been a lot worse.


    (not ours, and yes I searched for one of the better examples)
    Remind me. We'll send him a red cap and a Speedo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathleenturneroverdrive View Post
    Anyone driving/like/hate the V90 T6 Cross Country? I'm mildly in the market for a new ride and it seems like the used market for them must not be very hot. Lots of low mileage examples sitting at dealers for months with multiple price drops.
    I'm also considering the V90 for our next ride and witnessing the same thing. Sitting forever at the dealer and some price drops, but prices are still absurd all things considered. Waiting until (A) I have more money, and (B) the bottom on used cars REALLY falls out. Fingers crossed.

    Haven't test driven one yet, but sat in a couple at the dealer. They are REALLY nice. Would rather get a non-CC V90, but they're damn tough to find. Apparently they were special order only. I'll settle for a CC, but it's going to have to be a top tier package at a great price and WITH a killer CPO attached to convince me. Being a Volvo nerd, I spend lots of times on the forums these days and ALL new Volvos seem to have loads of electronic gremlins. They're reporting that after 2018, the super/turbo 2.0 seems to be holding up pretty well actually (avoid MY2017 at all costs - piston ring issues, oil consumption, catastrophic endings around 100K). For that reason, I'd probably stick with 2020+. Particularly if I go with one that's supercharged, turbocharged, AND hybrid, I say ONLY a comprehensively warrantied example need apply. I still want one, but I don't trust them to last as long as my boring NA XC70. At least they have a sick CPO program. 10 years and "unlimited" (999,999) miles.

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    People need to stop over changing their oil or at least stop being Karens with those that go with recommended OCI and good oil. The whole sludge debacle was caused by going for the manufacturer OCI and non certified oil at a quick oil change shack. I had 400k km + on my notorious 1.8t A4 without sludge. My 3.2 is 300k km +. 15k km OCIs. Also, when I opened it to carbon clean the valves they looked surprisingly good. A redline a day keeps the carbon away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MontuckyFried View Post
    I'm also considering the V90 for our next ride and witnessing the same thing. Sitting forever at the dealer and some price drops, but prices are still absurd all things considered. Waiting until (A) I have more money, and (B) the bottom on used cars REALLY falls out. Fingers crossed.

    Haven't test driven one yet, but sat in a couple at the dealer. They are REALLY nice. Would rather get a non-CC V90, but they're damn tough to find. Apparently they were special order only. I'll settle for a CC, but it's going to have to be a top tier package at a great price and WITH a killer CPO attached to convince me. Being a Volvo nerd, I spend lots of times on the forums these days and ALL new Volvos seem to have loads of electronic gremlins. They're reporting that after 2018, the super/turbo 2.0 seems to be holding up pretty well actually (avoid MY2017 at all costs - piston ring issues, oil consumption, catastrophic endings around 100K). For that reason, I'd probably stick with 2020+. Particularly if I go with one that's supercharged, turbocharged, AND hybrid, I say ONLY a comprehensively warrantied example need apply. I still want one, but I don't trust them to last as long as my boring NA XC70. At least they have a sick CPO program. 10 years and "unlimited" (999,999) miles.
    I have an XC90 and had a V60. The XC90 is in the shop right now because the right passenger door was frozen shut (water ingress freezes the lock), and the rear tailgate motors died. We got it with 80k KM on it, and it's at 120 now. Besides those two things, it's been rock solid. Warranty runs until 160k as well.

    As for the V60, I had the 2018 and it was fantastic. Like, just fantastic. Comfortable, economical, looks amazing. The only downside is mine didnt come with carplay so I had to have that upgraded.

    We are going to trade the XC90 in for a recharge, and I was on the list to get a V60 Recharge before Volvo decided to kill all the 2023s and make them mild hybrids. If they actually build them for '24, I'll get one.

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