DPS Lotus 124 - These Look Fun

[Wetdog]

They did make the waist slightly wider, but the tips are significantly wider increasing the side cut and combined with a bit more camber and less pin tail they should be better in firmer conditions. I haven't skied them so can't confirm. The 120's were not great out of their element.

[Wetdog]

Skied the 120 a lot. Imo if they wanted to make the 120 more resort friendly they should have Kept the tip and tail ratio but widened them slightly and narrowed the waist slightly. Just a touch to get the radius under 30m. Keep the pin tail and rocker/flex of the ski.

Seems strange they have made the waist wider to make the ski more resort friendly-but what do I know.

They did make the waist slightly wider, but the tips are significantly wider increasing the side cut and combined with a bit more camber and less pin tail they should be better in firmer conditions. I haven't skied them so can't confirm. The 120's were not great out of their element, so hopefully these will be more versatile.

[rob stokes]

They did make the waist slightly wider, but the tips are significantly wider increasing the side cut and combined with a bit more camber and less pin tail they should be better in firmer conditions. I haven't skied them so can't confirm. The 120's were not great out of their element, so hopefully these will be more versatile.

Yeah I get they brought the radius down, but I would have thought that making the ski slightly narrower while widening the ends would have done this in a way that increased the skis versatility. I don't want resort skis to be over 120. Too much hard snow versatility needed, even for a pure pow ski.

Disclaimer, my fave ski of all time is the original shape 120.

Original=140-120-125

My idea=143-118-128 sorta thing.

New 120=140-122-126

New 124=149-124-136

[Buster Highmen]

Disclaimer, my fave ski of all time is the original shape 120 in a 200 cm.

FIFY.
One thing that's been neglected is the increase of rocker in the L120 of recent 5 years. I like the old profile more.

[rob stokes]

Never skied the 200, would be fun in the right place

[XXX-er]

Yeah I get they brought the radius down, but I would have thought that making the ski slightly narrower while widening the ends would have done this in a way that increased the skis versatility. I don't want resort skis to be over 120. Too much hard snow versatility needed, even for a pure pow ski.

Disclaimer, my fave ski of all time is the original shape 120.

Original=140-120-125

I liked the original profile red hybrid Lotus 120's in a 184 so much I bought another used pair in a 190 for the hill, I was a little worried about a ski with such a large advertised turning radius but in practise I found I could just crank the pintails in as much as I wanted at any time and make any sized turn I wanted

For kicks I measured the early rise on both skis and the 184's have 10cms more early rise (60cm vs 50cm) than the 190's ?

[Wetdog]

Yeah I get they brought the radius down, but I would have thought that making the ski slightly narrower while widening the ends would have done this in a way that increased the skis versatility. I don't want resort skis to be over 120. Too much hard snow versatility needed, even for a pure pow ski.

Disclaimer, my fave ski of all time is the original shape 120.

Original=140-120-125

My idea=143-118-128 sorta thing.

New 120=140-122-126

New 124=149-124-136

Agreed. Makes more sense to go with a narrower waist, or keep the same width and widen tip and tail slightly. This is what Prior did with the Overlord. Last gen 140-118-125 this gen 146-118-130 and it gave them better resort versatility without affecting the ski much in it's primary environment of deep snow.

[Doremite]

I liked the original profile red hybrid Lotus 120's in a 184 so much I bought another used pair in a 190 for the hill, I was a little worried about a ski with such a large advertised turning radius but in practise I found I could just crank the pintails in as much as I wanted at any time and make any sized turn I wanted

For kicks I measured the early rise on both skis and the 184's have 10cms more early rise (60cm vs 50cm) than the 190's ?

Interesting. Makes me want the 184s that much more. I agree the radius makes the 120 read way less maneuverable than they are. I find the newer gen spoon totally manageable on groomers and quick in tight spots. Always want to hammer but very easy to scrub speed which makes them surprisingly versatile

[grskier]

I have the spoon 120 in a Pure3 and thought they were surprisingly easy to get back to the lift etc on the hard stuff. I'll hopefully be on the Foundation 124 for my resort pow ski this year..

With the additional 10 mm in the tail I was hoping I could get a little more McConkey out of the 124 than I could with the 120. The 120 was great for hauling butt, slashing, etc but I never quite was able to slarve it like some others consistently.

[skibass]

Anyone have any mount suggestions for the 124 Lotus? Picked up a pair and hope it's as versatile as DPS says. I mainly ski off-piste/ trees in the alps and am hoping the 124 will do the trick in 1+ ft of new snow.

A little worried about resort pow performance. Maybe the Moment Blister Pro is a better resort pow ski.

Hopefully I made the right choice in the 124.

[LiveLarger]

I haven't skied mine yet, but considering how close to center, the recommended mount location is, I wonder what your reasoning of doing +1 is?

[skibass]

I haven't skied mine yet, but considering how close to center, the recommended mount location is, I wonder what your reasoning of doing +1 is?

Haven't mounted yet. Just looking for feedback on the mount point. I will probably mount on the recommended line. Excited to get them on the snow and see if I made the right choice for deep tree skiing.

[LiveLarger]

I haven't mounted mine either. Keep us posted about your findings.

[cstefanic]

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/spo/5831860343.html

FYI here's a slightly cheaper entry point into the L124 lifestyle.

[XXX-er]

well finally we find some one^^ who has a skied "A RUN" on the L124

[cstefanic]

Just clarifying that this isn't my ad....I actually put some miles onto my gear.

well finally we find some one^^ who has a skied "A RUN" on the L124

[Woolbury]

Haven't been on the tech forum for quite awhile, but thought Id chime in. I skied the L124's all last season(Blue PW edition) and its my dedicated bc ski. I've skied L120's for about 6 seasons(3 pair) and the L124 is a different animal entirely. Quick summary, still a beast inbounds when hardback is involved, doesn't want to get near moguls. After initial disappointment that the increased sidecut didn't provide more edge hold and maneuverability on hardpack, I wondered what I had gotten. Then as I experienced more and more deep days, I found the real quality of these skis. The sidecut and camber have you skiing powder in a totally different manner than the 120s. I'm putting down twice as many turns down a big bowl, my up and down skiing style has evolved, and the fun factor is turned way up. Stable, predictable, nimble in the deep. Still a handful in the hardback. I also went from 190 L120s to 184 L124, don't miss the extra length a bit. Not sure I'll be getting any more 190's for that matter. Came to the forum looking for replacement for my 190 Hybrid W112's (my least favorite DPS ski btw). Focusing in on Black Crow 184 Atris for all around inbound ski.

[XXX-er]

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I've skied L120's for about 6 seasons(3 pair) and the L124 is a different animal entirely. The sidecut and camber have you skiing powder in a totally different manner than the 120s.

I'm putting down twice as many turns down a big bowl, my up and down skiing style has evolved.

thats ^^ kind of what I had guessed looking at the specs ... so why call it a lotus?

[Mofro261]

thats ^^ kind of what I had guessed looking at the specs ... so why call it a lotus?

should be called the "Lotus Turn Farmer" edition. Though borrowing the appropriate acronym, it'd be the Wailer Turn Farmer edition.

[XXX-er]

should be called the "Lotus Turn Farmer" edition. Though borrowing the appropriate acronym, it'd be the Wailer Turn Farmer edition.

Exactly, is it a Lotus or a Wailer, well played sir!

[Woolbury]

Focusing on Wailer vs Lotus misses quality of these skis. I love my Wailer 99s, my 112's not so much. The 124s share none of the too turny, almost twitchy nature of the 112s. They respond to driver input much more predictably, more like a lotus, but with a turn radius 30% smaller. The real difference to me is the sweet flex and incredible pop and energy I get turn to turn. Super fun, stable pow ski, just don't buy them for hard pack versatility.

[Wetdog]

I saw a pair of 191 Lotus 124's at MEC in Vancouver. They flexed almost as stiff as the 189 Lotus 120, a bit softer in the tail. The tip profile is similar to the Wailer 99 and 112. Shown here beside 112's

The camber is less than the 120 Spoons and they have more tail rocker.




The tip rocker profiles. 124 on the left, 120 on the right.

[Lindahl]

I'd rather have a Tour1 version of it.

[XavierD]

Considering how terrifyingly horrible the 112 was in a tour1 construction I'd want anyone skiing these in a tour1 to stay down hill from me at all times.

It would be the least 'Lindahl' pow ski ever.

[Lindahl]

Given that its 124mm under foot and its as turny as they say, then it makes more sense as a Tour1 no? The former 2 attributes make it pretty meadow skipping specific imo. Might as well add the 3rd at that point. Why fight its heritage.