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08-21-2019, 09:29 PM #801
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08-21-2019, 10:03 PM #802
We have these different proxies that give us information about past climate and ideally you don’t rely on just one. Instead you use a multi-proxy approach, multiple records to reconstruct the changes that have been going on. Things like tree rings, the composite oxygen isotope record, an aggregation of ocean core data, ice-core samples, etc.
The key is global mean temperature, not regional variations. With global mean temperature regional spikes are smoothed out. A chart based on global mean temperature would, for obvious reasons, be smoother than a local proxy.
Whereas you keep cherry-picking data that appears to support your oftentimes specious arguments.
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08-22-2019, 09:10 AM #803
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08-22-2019, 09:19 AM #804
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08-22-2019, 09:21 AM #805
Amazon's burning, Greenland and both poles melting.. South pole melting in the middle of winter down there. Must all be fake news from power hungry scientists...
Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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08-22-2019, 09:40 AM #806Aim for the chopping block. If you aim for the wood, you will have nothing. Aim past the wood, aim through the wood.
http://tim-kirchoff.pixels.com/
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08-22-2019, 11:09 AM #807Banned
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You think I don't know this? I am merely pointing out how fake that unsourced cartoon is. It makes it appear as if there are no sudden temperature swings except for the past 150 years for which we have instrumental records. I often use the Greenland ice core record because it is the highest resolution record we have for the past 20,000 years. Here's some more:
From top to bottom: NGRIP d 18 O (Johnsen et al., 2001), precipitation and temperature calculated from percentage pollen from Tenaghi Philippon in Greece (Pross et al., 2009), percentage of deciduous tree pollen in the SL152 marine core from the Aegean Sea (Kotthoff et al., 2008), d 18 O and d 13 C from Soreq Cave in Israel (Bar-Matthews et al., 1999, 2003), and d 18 O from Qunf Cave in Oman (Fleitmann et al., 2003).
Two Antarctic ice cores, one Greenland
GISP is Greenland, shown before. Cariaco is Venezuelan ocean basin. Dome C is Antarctica.
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08-22-2019, 11:22 AM #808
Boy. Sure would be nice if somebody could do ANYTHING about getting those knuckleheads to quit clearing out the rainforests in record numbers down South, but nope! Seems we're more worried about plastic straws and cow farts than things that could make DRASTIC differences in our climate.
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08-22-2019, 11:24 AM #809Banned
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You are a hopeless case so I respond to this for the sake of the others reading this thread.
Amazon burning - not caused by global warming.
Greenland melting - Yes, happens every summer. Current 2019 surface mass balance is at about the 30 year mean.
South pole melting in the middle of winter - This is your best one yet. Temps are -50 to -60 this time of year with no sunlight.
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08-22-2019, 11:36 AM #810Funky But Chic
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08-22-2019, 11:58 AM #811
https://www.earthday.org/campaigns/r...limate-change/
Originally Posted by Earth Day Network
Also, this just out: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/e...deforestation/
It's pretty messed up. Those guys make coal rolling rednecks look like environmentalist saints by comparison.
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08-22-2019, 12:24 PM #812
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08-22-2019, 12:37 PM #813Banned
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Your graph is 3 weeks old.
http://polarportal.dk/en/greenland/surface-conditions/
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08-22-2019, 02:52 PM #814
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08-22-2019, 02:54 PM #815
Ok, this global warming shit is getting out of hand...
Oops
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08-22-2019, 03:15 PM #816Registered User
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08-22-2019, 03:26 PM #817Registered User
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08-22-2019, 04:15 PM #819Funky But Chic
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The only debate is what percent of global warming is anthropogenic. That figure is unknown. However it appears that it is a contributing -and perhaps the driving- factor. Only a fool would argue that we ignore something simply because we are uncertain as to exactly how bad it is. Which is why I have no interest in anything Exxon Ron has to say.
Well that, and he's dead wrong on solar.
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08-22-2019, 05:14 PM #820Banned
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08-22-2019, 05:17 PM #821Funky But Chic
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fuck you you corporate whore.
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08-22-2019, 05:23 PM #822Banned
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If you believe that is the crux of my argument you are either not paying attention or just dumb. I don't believe I have ever argued that we do nothing simply because we don't know how bad it will be.
What am I getting wrong on solar? My stance is that 100% non carbon renewables is unfeasible with our current tech. Given that we don't have a single solar plant with adequate backup to look at for an example proves my point.
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08-22-2019, 05:25 PM #823Funky But Chic
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Oh I'm definitely not paying attention. Fuck you, by the way.
edit: admittedly I was paying attention for a few minutes thereLast edited by iceman; 08-22-2019 at 06:03 PM.
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08-22-2019, 09:04 PM #824
Arguing the science of the climate crisis with Ron only furthers his agenda of spreading doubt. He is lying.
99% of climate scientists agree dangerous climate change is occurring and it is Caused by humans.
These scientists have told us we must keep global temperature rise to less than 2 degrees C, and to do this we must cut greenhouse gas emissions 45% by 2030 and to net zero by 2050.
https://www.ipcc.ch/2018/10/08/summa...y-governments/
Limiting global warming to 1.5°C would require rapid, far-reaching and unprecedented changes in all aspects of society, the IPCC said in a new assessment. With clear benefits to people and natural ecosystems, limiting global warming to 1.5°C compared to 2°C could go hand in hand with ensuring a more sustainable and equitable society, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) said on Monday.
The Special Report on Global Warming of 1.5°C was approved by the IPCC on Saturday in Incheon, Republic of Korea. It will be a key scientific input into the Katowice Climate Change Conference in Poland in December, when governments review the Paris Agreement to tackle climate change.
“With more than 6,000 scientific references cited and the dedicated contribution of thousands of expert and government reviewers worldwide, this important report testifies to the breadth and policy relevance of the IPCC,” said Hoesung Lee, Chair of the IPCC.
Ninety-one authors and review editors from 40 countries prepared the IPCC report in response to an invitation from the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) when it adopted the Paris Agreement in 2015.
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08-22-2019, 09:30 PM #825
https://climatechangedispatch.com/97...-97-consensus/
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