Ok, this global warming shit is getting out of hand...

[TBS]

Judging by the number of Greta Thunberg memes I've seen recently she has hit a sore spot and made a lot of people very uncomfortable. The only thing the cynics can do is make fun of her because they have no argument with what she is saying. Amusing, sad, and pitiful.

No doubt. Especially the Aspergers part. The best software engineers I’ve ever come across were on the Spectrum.

On the other hand, Greta is now living, rent free, in the brains of most conservatards, along with AOC and Ilhan Omar. Buncha nasty women

[BGnight]

Mic drop!

You have low standards. What does that have to do with the environment?

[BGnight]

It's one thing to be an environmentalist (I consider myself one) but climate alarmism has turned into a full blown cult. Why aren't countries banding together and cleaning the plastic out of the ocean or stopping the myriad of other environmental atrocities happening across the globe? Because it serves no geopolitical benefit for their ultimate agenda...POWER. Thus the sole focus on "climate".

[basinbeater]

Go buy some plastic trump straws while the liberals figure out what to do about the plastic in the ocean as well. That'll show the libtards.

sent from Utah.

[basinbeater]

From https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

But what do they know at NASA?

Statement on Climate Change from 18 Scientific Associations

"Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver." (2009)2

[https://climate]

American Association for the Advancement of Science

"The scientific evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now, and it is a growing threat to society." (2006)3

[https://climate]

American Chemical Society

"Comprehensive scientific assessments of our current and potential future climates clearly indicate that climate change is real, largely attributable to emissions from human activities, and potentially a very serious problem." (2004)4

[https://climate]

American Geophysical Union

"Human‐induced climate change requires urgent action. Humanity is the major influence on the global climate change observed over the past 50 years. Rapid societal responses can significantly lessen negative outcomes." (Adopted 2003, revised and reaffirmed 2007, 2012, 2013)5

[https://climate]

American Medical Association

"Our AMA ... supports the findings of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s fourth assessment report and concurs with the scientific consensus that the Earth is undergoing adverse global climate change and that anthropogenic contributions are significant." (2013)6

[https://climate]

American Meteorological Society

"It is clear from extensive scientific evidence that the dominant cause of the rapid change in climate of the past half century is human-induced increases in the amount of atmospheric greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide (CO2), chlorofluorocarbons, methane, and nitrous oxide." (2012)7

[https://climate]

American Physical Society

"The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now." (2007)8

[https://climate]

The Geological Society of America

"The Geological Society of America (GSA) concurs with assessments by the National Academies of Science (2005), the National Research Council (2006), and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC, 2007) that global climate has warmed and that human activities (mainly greenhouse‐gas emissions) account for most of the warming since the middle 1900s." (2006; revised 2010)9

SCIENCE ACADEMIES

International Academies: Joint Statement

"Climate change is real. There will always be uncertainty in understanding a system as complex as the world’s climate. However there is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring. The evidence comes from direct measurements of rising surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures and from phenomena such as increases in average global sea levels, retreating glaciers, and changes to many physical and biological systems. It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities (IPCC 2001)." (2005, 11 international science academies)10

[https://climate]

U.S. National Academy of Sciences

"The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify taking steps to reduce the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere." (2005)11

U.S. GOVERNMENT AGENCIES

[https://climate]

U.S. Global Change Research Program

"The global warming of the past 50 years is due primarily to human-induced increases in heat-trapping gases. Human 'fingerprints' also have been identified in many other aspects of the climate system, including changes in ocean heat content, precipitation, atmospheric moisture, and Arctic sea ice." (2009, 13 U.S. government departments and agencies)12

INTERGOVERNMENTAL BODIES

[https://climate]

Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

“Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, and since the 1950s, many of the observed changes are unprecedented over decades to millennia. The atmosphere and ocean have warmed, the amounts of snow and ice have diminished, and sea level has risen.”13

“Human influence on the climate system is clear, and recent anthropogenic emissions of greenhouse gases are the highest in history. Recent climate changes have had widespread impacts on human and natural systems.”14

OTHER RESOURCES

List of Worldwide Scientific Organizations

The following page lists the nearly 200 worldwide scientific organizations that hold the position that climate change has been caused by human action.
http://www.opr.ca.gov/facts/list-of-...nizations.html

U.S. Agencies

The following page contains information on what federal agencies are doing to adapt to climate change.
https://www.c2es.org/site/assets/upl...-are-doing.pdf



sent from Utah.

[k2skier112]

From https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

But what do they know at NASA?

Statement on Climate Change from 18 Scientific Associations

"Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver." (2009)2

[https://climate]

American Association for the Advancement of Science

"The scientific evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now, and it is a growing threat to society." (2006)3

[https://climate]

American Chemical Society

"Comprehensive scientific assessments of our current and potential future climates clearly indicate that climate change is real, largely attributable to emissions from human activities, and potentially a very serious problem." (2004)4

[https://climate]

American Geophysical Union

"Human‐induced climate change requires urgent action. Humanity is the major influence on the global climate change observed over the past 50 years. Rapid societal responses can significantly lessen negative outcomes." (Adopted 2003, revised and reaffirmed 2007, 2012, 2013)5

[https://climate]

American Medical Association

"Our AMA ... supports the findings of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s fourth assessment report and concurs with the scientific consensus that the Earth is undergoing adverse global climate change and that anthropogenic contributions are significant." (2013)6

[https://climate]

American Meteorological Society

"It is clear from extensive scientific evidence that the dominant cause of the rapid change in climate of the past half century is human-induced increases in the amount of atmospheric greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide (CO2), chlorofluorocarbons, methane, and nitrous oxide." (2012)7

[https://climate]

American Physical Society

"The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now." (2007)8

[https://climate]

The Geological Society of America

"The Geological Society of America (GSA) concurs with assessments by the National Academies of Science (2005), the National Research Council (2006), and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC, 2007) that global climate has warmed and that human activities (mainly greenhouse‐gas emissions) account for most of the warming since the middle 1900s." (2006; revised 2010)9

SCIENCE ACADEMIES

International Academies: Joint Statement

"Climate change is real. There will always be uncertainty in understanding a system as complex as the world’s climate. However there is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring. The evidence comes from direct measurements of rising surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures and from phenomena such as increases in average global sea levels, retreating glaciers, and changes to many physical and biological systems. It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities (IPCC 2001)." (2005, 11 international science academies)10

[https://climate]

U.S. National Academy of Sciences

"The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify taking steps to reduce the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere." (2005)11

U.S. GOVERNMENT AGENCIES

[https://climate]

U.S. Global Change Research Program

"The global warming of the past 50 years is due primarily to human-induced increases in heat-trapping gases. Human 'fingerprints' also have been identified in many other aspects of the climate system, including changes in ocean heat content, precipitation, atmospheric moisture, and Arctic sea ice." (2009, 13 U.S. government departments and agencies)12

INTERGOVERNMENTAL BODIES

[https://climate]

Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

“Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, and since the 1950s, many of the observed changes are unprecedented over decades to millennia. The atmosphere and ocean have warmed, the amounts of snow and ice have diminished, and sea level has risen.”13

“Human influence on the climate system is clear, and recent anthropogenic emissions of greenhouse gases are the highest in history. Recent climate changes have had widespread impacts on human and natural systems.”14

OTHER RESOURCES

List of Worldwide Scientific Organizations

The following page lists the nearly 200 worldwide scientific organizations that hold the position that climate change has been caused by human action.
http://www.opr.ca.gov/facts/list-of-...nizations.html

U.S. Agencies

The following page contains information on what federal agencies are doing to adapt to climate change.
https://www.c2es.org/site/assets/upl...-are-doing.pdf



sent from Utah.

Careful, too many facts will make RJ and BG's head explode

[stuckathuntermtn]

BG and robert whatever the fuck need to shut up while the adults talk. Sorry a 17 year old is a threat to you.

[SumJongGuy]

It's one thing to be an environmentalist (I consider myself one) but climate alarmism has turned into a full blown cult. Why aren't countries banding together and cleaning the plastic out of the ocean or stopping the myriad of other environmental atrocities happening across the globe? Because it serves no geopolitical benefit for their ultimate agenda...POWER. Thus the sole focus on "climate".

^^^^THIS!! It's all a conspiracy perpetrated by The Bildaberg Group to leverage carbon credits to build a New World Order they will rule. The stone cold proof is RIGHT HERE!

[Deebased]

AOC destined for the Presidency. If Warren can win we might get four consecutive terms from liberal ladies. Rebalance the universe & help mother earth & whatnot. And a nobel for Greta.

Alex, What are three things that are dangerous to more people than climate change?

[rideit]

You think anarchy would solve our environmental problems?
Are you 14?

[old goat]

It doesn't make you uncomfortable that a teenage girl with Asperger's is being used by adults to advance their agenda? This isn't about Greta, its about the adults using her as a puppet.

Not in the slightest. Whether or not she has Asperger's (a diagnosis that gets tossed around about as casually as bipolar disorder these days) she is certainly someone who knows her mind and understands what she's doing. She's getting attention not because she's a pawn but because she is able to communicate her message a lot more effectively than the so called 97% of scientists. But if you can't attack the message, attack the messenger. For that matter a lot of the people attacking her don't care much about the message one way or the other; they just don't like been shown up by a teenage girl, and they really don't like the idea of someone who cares. I know she makes me uncomfortable in my cynicism.

The pawn accusation reminds me of the same accusations being made about the Parkland kids. Maybe Greta is a paid actor.

I will say this--the people who say that the climate agenda will mean socialism, or massive government intervention, or higher taxes, or huge changes in our way of life and perhaps a significant decline in our standard of living--are right. When climate change activists imply that a little solar here, a little wind there, and all will be good they are not being honest. The guy on PBS tonight was more honest--if we get serious about climate change and drastically cut greenhouse gas emissions right now the world will still warm, just not as fast, and if we're lucky we may be able to slow it down enough so that we can adapt--ie move away from the coasts, away from deserts, raise our houses, harden them against fire and storms, without massive loss of life. But we are never going back to the climate of the past.

[Ripzalot]

^^yeah, right. i thought this was a joke in the meme but found out it it's actually real.....she's obviously delusional.

Greta was diagnosed as a child with obsessive-compulsive disorder and Asperger’s syndrome, just like her younger sister Beata. The activist also has a photographic memory. She knows all the capitals by heart and can list all the chemical elements of the periodic table within one minute. In addition, she has another gift according to her mother.

“Greta is able to see what other people cannot see,” writes Malena Ernman in the book.

“She can see carbon dioxide with the naked eye. She sees how it flows out of chimneys and changes the atmosphere in a landfill.”

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/05/...de-in-the-air/
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/sh...ner-ur-hj-rtat

maybe if you guys stick to facts instead of alarmist hyperbole you might be taken more seriously.

[schuss]

^^yeah, right. i thought this was a joke in the meme but found out it it's actually real.....she's obviously delusional.



https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/05/...de-in-the-air/
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/sh...ner-ur-hj-rtat

maybe if you guys stick to facts instead of alarmist hyperbole you might be taken more seriously.

Eh, I don't think some level of alarmism is bad when we don't know all the mechanisms and how quickly/slowly they work. It's not like you turn off pollution and the problem goes away overnight. There's a lot of structural change that needs to happen and a recognition that it will take time to do.
Alternatively, we could coddle ourselves with cherry picked stats and schoolyard insults of a 16 year old, but hey, everyone gets to choose.

[Ripzalot]

Eh, I don't think some level of alarmism is bad when we don't know all the mechanisms and how quickly/slowly they work. It's not like you turn off pollution and the problem goes away overnight. There's a lot of structural change that needs to happen and a recognition that it will take time to do.
Alternatively, we could coddle ourselves with cherry picked stats and schoolyard insults of a 16 year old, but hey, everyone gets to choose.

"schoolyard insults" - just pointing out the facts about her. she is obviously delusional unless you can defend her superpowers.

" when we don't know all the mechanisms and how quickly/slowly they work" - that should be sufficient enough to cast doubt. so despite this we should still take the current hyperbolic predictions of 12, 10, even 8 years till doomsday as realistic? FFS.

"we could coddle ourselves with cherry picked stats " - you're talking about the IPCC data, right? they haven't even included the solar particle forcings yet. how can you expect any accurate outputs without accurate inputs?

and don't be fooled by the 97% consensus. that number is bogus (look into how that number came about) and there are hundreds of scientists who say otherwise. oh lookie here, we have another defector...

[schuss]

"schoolyard insults" - just pointing out the facts about her. she is obviously delusional unless you can defend her superpowers.

" when we don't know all the mechanisms and how quickly/slowly they work" - that should be sufficient enough to cast doubt. so despite this we should still take the current hyperbolic predictions of 12, 10, even 8 years till doomsday as realistic? FFS.

"we could coddle ourselves with cherry picked stats " - you're talking about the IPCC data, right? they haven't even included the solar particle forcings yet. how can you expect any accurate outputs without accurate inputs?

and don't be fooled by the 97% consensus. that number is bogus (look into how that number came about) and there are hundreds of scientists who say otherwise. oh lookie here, we have another defector...

Attacking a 16 year old as mentally ill is schoolyard level, yes.
We don't know all the mechanisms, but we know enough to say CO2 is generally bad (like CFCs) and results in warming. How quickly? Hard to nail down.
Less precise model does not equal wrong.

I am friends with people who work hand in hand with climatologists and ocean researchers that are pretty well regarded and level headed and they're stunned at how people are rejecting incredibly clear cut conclusions because of nitpicky nothingburgers like your particle forcing.
Let's remember the the term climate change is only here because global warming offended too many fence sitters.
I'd prefer an earth largely inhabitable for myself and my kids. Science is generally true whether you believe or not. It is getting warmer and we need a way to slow or stop it.

[Vt-Freeheel]

Love me some almonds.




Going to have to give almonds up in our vegetarian diet in 5 years.

[basinbeater]

Love me some almonds.




Going to have to give almonds up in our vegetarian diet in 5 years.

True, they use way too much water. Such a drag because I love them, and the new honey bunches of oats with almonds now has 30% more almonds. Sooo good ....

sent from Utah.

[SumJongGuy]

Going to have to give almonds up in our vegetarian diet in 5 years.

It's just a slippery slope towards taking your guns..

[Vt-Freeheel]

Who needs guns to hunt kale?

[SumJongGuy]

Who needs guns to hunt kale?

[WMD]

Who needs guns to hunt kale?

Trapping is definitely more effective...

[old goat]

^^yeah, right. i thought this was a joke in the meme but found out it it's actually real.....she's obviously delusional.



https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/05/...de-in-the-air/
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/sh...ner-ur-hj-rtat

maybe if you guys stick to facts instead of alarmist hyperbole you might be taken more seriously.

The author says her mother says Greta says. And even if Greta believes that--you'er missing the point, deliberately. You pick an irrelevant detail--Thunberg's mental state, the 97% figure--and argue it to imply that the whole concept of global warming is wrong. Whether or not she is any more delusional than your average 16 year old, nobody is relying on her scientific expertise. Her skill is communication and getting others involved and she does it by appealing to other people's emotions (something that real autistics can't do). You deniers should appreciated appealing to the emotions--it's how Trump wound up as President. Of course, like all skills it can be used for good or for evil.

[ron johnson]

Not in the slightest. Whether or not she has Asperger's (a diagnosis that gets tossed around about as casually as bipolar disorder these days) she is certainly someone who knows her mind and understands what she's doing. She's getting attention not because she's a pawn but because she is able to communicate her message a lot more effectively than the so called 97% of scientists. But if you can't attack the message, attack the messenger. For that matter a lot of the people attacking her don't care much about the message one way or the other; they just don't like been shown up by a teenage girl, and they really don't like the idea of someone who cares. I know she makes me uncomfortable in my cynicism.

The pawn accusation reminds me of the same accusations being made about the Parkland kids. Maybe Greta is a paid actor.

Give me a break. This is what she looks like when she doesn't have a script to read from:


Her message is fed to her by activisists. You think she is operating on her own? I've already attacked her message. Her UN speech was total hysteria BS about people suffering and dying from climate change, mass extinctions, etc. Its a joke.

I wonder how you guys would feel if Exxon found a nice little poor Indian girl to parade around and give speeches about how unfair it is that the first world wants to prevent her from using fossil fuels.

[MultiVerse]

. oh lookie here, we have another defector...

Your scientist is not a defector per se. He's more of an odd outlier. Back in 2013, for example, he predicted Northern Hemisphere cooling starting in 2015 and yet 2016 and 2017 and all of 2019 so far have been warmer.

It's also worth pointing out that his book is written in Japanese so the translated quotes are coming from sources like Ron's favorite NoTricksZone. Breitbart affiliated NoTricksZone gained notoriety earlier in this thread for not only dramatically misrepresenting scientific findings but also for its outright lies.

[schuss]

Your scientist is not a defector per se. He's more of an odd outlier. Back in 2013, for example, he predicted Northern Hemisphere cooling starting in 2015 and yet 2016 and 2017 and all of 2019 so far have been warmer.

It's also worth pointing out that his book is written in Japanese so the translated quotes are coming from sources like Ron's favorite NoTricksZone. Breitbart affiliated NoTricksZone gained notoriety earlier in this thread for not only dramatically misrepresenting scientific findings but also for its outright lies.

Oh, affiliated with Breitbart? Straight out of contention then.