Ok, this global warming shit is getting out of hand...

[SkiCougar]

A nugget of truth, battered in bullshit and deep-fried to perfection.

Methane is only 0.00018% of the atmosphere, no reason to be worried about that. CFCs are only 0.0000001% of the atmosphere, no reason to worry about those either.

Does it hurt to be this fucking dumb?

I have no doubt what you posted is true, but it doesn't change my point.

i'll ignore the insult as they are used more often that the word and here.

[SkiCougar]

I addressed you directly because I do not think you are a troll unlike some of the other posters.

Per your belief that humans are not making an impact, 97% of climate scientists say that we are making an impact. If 97 doctors told you smoking was going to kill you, and 3 tobacco drs told you it was fine, would you try to quit?

I should have added China is polluting so why should we stop to my list.

sent from Utah.

now, you and I both know that has been around for a long time and it has been both debunked and confirmed.

sorry, but you are not looping me into this thread on that.

[basinbeater]

How has the scientific consensus been debunked?

sent from Utah.

[MultiVerse]

>>I do believe that climate changes, but as CO2 0.0391 percent of the atmosphere and human contribute about 1% of that, I do not believe people are having an affect at that rate and certainly not more than cows and dogs.

I have no doubt what you posted is true, but it doesn't change my point.

What is the point?

This argument, that things in trace amounts can't have big effects, is so specious and completely off-base that it has to be asked: Do you also doubt trace amounts of alcohol can cause intoxication? Deny trace amounts of drugs can have a medicinal effect? Or, even the reverse that plants need CO2 but since there are only trace amounts of CO2 in the atmosphere plants can't exist?


Maybe try thinking about it from the opposite direction. Instead of viewing CO2 as a percentage think about each part per million as representing 20 billion tons of heat trapping gas⁠—trapping heat that would otherwise radiate into space.

We are adding nearly 3ppm a year so that's almost 60 billion tons of additional heat trapping gas every year. Your 0.0391ppm is now 0.0409ppm. That's an additional 360 billion tons of CO2 since the last time you thought about the percentage. It adds up.

[Dantheman]

Ozone only comprises 0.001% of the stratosphere, so clearly it has no effect on the Earth whatsoever.

[simple]

I don't want to see tax returns. I want to see the high school grades for the anti- science and medicine people.

[uglymoney]

I appreciate you guys responding in such detail. I just think it is a waste.

Look outside. The weather is so fucked here. Every year constant flooding somewhere, or crazy drought, winter rains that used to be extremely rare now common, hot and cold cycles. Air conditioner weather is now all the way through September into October then often starts in April when we used to shut it off at the end of August till mid June. Severe weather in every month. The weather seems less seasonal and more random.

Setting up a tent in the Weminuche this year required you to look up for the next pine beetle infected tree that could fall and kill my family.

Boring weather seems to be a thing of the past.

We are still trying to convince people with facts they cannot or are unwilling to grasp.

If they can't see what is right in front of them nothing I can say on here is going to change their minds.

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[MultiVerse]

Considering that the US and Europe have reduced emissions recently while China’s has doubled and India’s has gone up 150%

Earlier reports of U.S. emissions dropping have been superseded by new reports showing a big surge over the last couple of years.

[splat]

[glademaster]

Well if there's one thing that has remained consistent throughout my tenure on the forum, it's that Splat is the most disingenuous, underhanded, dishonest, self-serving person here. And like a true psychopath, he presents the facade of being here for the benefit of the community. I'm sure there will be GoFundMe at some point to pay for the lawyers when he finally gets busted to tax evasion. Fucking shyster.

[buttahflake]

This guy gets it. Well said, guy.

[WMD]

Scientists: humans are rapidly turning oceans into warm, acidifying basins hostile to life
A new UN report warns changes to the oceans this century will be “unprecedented.”

Without the world’s oceans, climate change would actually be much worse. The oceans directly absorb about a quarter of the CO2 we have been spewing into the atmosphere. They also take in most of the heat generated by global warming. And they have been a bufferagainst even greater warming. But though they protect us, the oceans also are in great distress, as a sweeping new report from the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change clearly shows.

“The ocean has been acting like a sponge, absorbing heat and carbon dioxide to regulate global temperatures, but it can’t keep up,” IPCC vice chair Ko Barrett said at a press conference. “The world’s oceans and cryosphere have been taking the heat of climate change for decades. The consequences for nature and humanity are sweeping and severe.”

On Wednesday, the IPCC, convened by the UN to assess climate science, released a summaryof the report on the oceans and frozen regions of the world, or cryosphere, for policymakers after more than 100 scientists reviewed thousands of scientific papers. The findings are immense and comprehensive, and seeing them all in one place is sobering.

In all, “over the 21st century, the ocean is projected to transition to unprecedented conditions,” the report warns. The ocean will be warmer, more acidic, hold less oxygen, be more greatly stratified (i.e. the top and bottom layers won’t mix as much). Ocean heat waves are growing more common, and it’s likely extreme El Niño and La Niña systems will form, leading to more extreme weather around the globe.

The summary report demonstrates how the fate of the frozen areas, and our oceans, are interconnected. The land ice — from Greenland, Antarctica, and glaciers — are increasingly flowing into the ocean, causing it to rise. The Arctic Ocean — a vast sea that’s less and less reliably frozen every year — is one of the fastest-changing places on the planet.

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-envir...ryosphere-2019

[dan_pdx]

I appreciate you guys responding in such detail. I just think it is a waste.

Look outside. The weather is so fucked here. Every year constant flooding somewhere, or crazy drought, winter rains that used to be extremely rare now common, hot and cold cycles. Air conditioner weather is now all the way through September into October then often starts in April when we used to shut it off at the end of August till mid June. Severe weather in every month. The weather seems less seasonal and more random.

Setting up a tent in the Weminuche this year required you to look up for the next pine beetle infected tree that could fall and kill my family.

Boring weather seems to be a thing of the past.

We are still trying to convince people with facts they cannot or are unwilling to grasp.

If they can't see what is right in front of them nothing I can say on here is going to change their minds.

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Yes, well-put. Remarkably apropos line from a Stephen King / Richard Bachman book:
“Some guys - a lot of guys - don't believe what they are seeing, especially if it gets in the way of what they eat or drink or think or believe. Me, I don't believe in God. But if I saw him, I would. I wouldn't just go around saying 'Jesus, that was a great special effect.' The definition of an asshole is a guy who doesn't believe what he's seeing. And you can quote me.”

[old goat]

Judging by the number of Greta Thunberg memes I've seen recently she has hit a sore spot and made a lot of people very uncomfortable. The only thing the cynics can do is make fun of her because they have no argument with what she is saying. Amusing, sad, and pitiful.

[PNWbrit]

Judging by the number of Greta Thunberg memes I've seen recently she has hit a sore spot and made a lot of people very uncomfortable. The only thing the cynics can do is make fun of her because they have no argument with what she is saying. Amusing, sad, and pitiful.

"She should be in school. Not eloquently leading a worldwide science based campaign with a speech at the UN in a second language"

That kind of thing?

Yep.

[ron johnson]

I appreciate you guys responding in such detail. I just think it is a waste.

Look outside. The weather is so fucked here. Every year constant flooding somewhere, or crazy drought, winter rains that used to be extremely rare now common, hot and cold cycles. Air conditioner weather is now all the way through September into October then often starts in April when we used to shut it off at the end of August till mid June. Severe weather in every month. The weather seems less seasonal and more random.

Setting up a tent in the Weminuche this year required you to look up for the next pine beetle infected tree that could fall and kill my family.

Boring weather seems to be a thing of the past.

We are still trying to convince people with facts they cannot or are unwilling to grasp.

If they can't see what is right in front of them nothing I can say on here is going to change their minds.

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Seeing that you are from Iowa, it reminded me of this video:


You have a perception bias.

[SB]

[ron johnson]

Judging by the number of Greta Thunberg memes I've seen recently she has hit a sore spot and made a lot of people very uncomfortable. The only thing the cynics can do is make fun of her because they have no argument with what she is saying. Amusing, sad, and pitiful.

It doesn't make you uncomfortable that a teenage girl with Asperger's is being used by adults to advance their agenda? This isn't about Greta, its about the adults using her as a puppet.

[WMD]

You have a perception bias.

The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears.

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

[schuss]

It doesn't make you uncomfortable that a teenage girl with Asperger's is being used by adults to advance their agenda? This isn't about Greta, its about the adults using her as a puppet.

It makes me uncomfortable that south American children are in internment camps.

[BGnight]

Per your belief that humans are not making an impact, 97% of climate scientists say that we are making an impact. If 97 doctors told you smoking was going to kill you, and 3 tobacco drs told you it was fine, would you try to quit?

[BGnight]

Judging by the number of Greta Thunberg memes I've seen recently she has hit a sore spot and made a lot of people very uncomfortable. The only thing the cynics can do is make fun of her because they have no argument with what she is saying. Amusing, sad, and pitiful.

Lol no. She's a clueless, spoiled, brainwashed, puppet mouthpiece put in front of the camera by the elite to cause fear and push their socialist agenda. Real heroes aren't praised by politicians and hollywood.
This is a real hero:

[TBS]

That right there is felony torture and abuse of statistics

[BGnight]

[WMD]

It makes me uncomfortable that south American children are in internment camps.

Mic drop!