Ok, this global warming shit is getting out of hand...

[k2skier112]

Another fascinating quote here. Amazing really. Did you know that just this week, like two days ago hundreds of global warming extremists literally buried their heads in the sand. Ha ha you can’t make this up. What kind of sane rational thinking person would do this? None. Who would? Someone who has been manipulated. Someone who has emotionally programmed and is functioning from fear. It is a form of mass hypnosis or mass psychosis. So who is the one with their head in the sand? Attachment 297662Attachment 297663The person who questions the narrative or the person who literally has their head in the sand.

are you trying to be funny, or are you really that fucking stoopid? gawd u make yourself look like an idiot

https://www.news.com.au/technology/e...8b27332c2d5f59

[reckless toboggan]

[BGnight]

This shit is so simple.

1. Global Climate is clearly warming.

2. Global climate has warmed before but data shows this warming period has characteristics not seen in previous warmings

3. This time there are multiple human inputs into the system that weren't there before.

4. Continued warming would be disastrous.

5. The prudent course is to minimize human inputs and see what happens while we also

6. Prepare for the worst.

I mean that's it that's all.

If you don't start with the humanitarian side of things (wars/poverty/healthcare/ and exposing psychopathic pedophiles running all this shit) then all the climate solutions are completely moot and won't change a thing except enslave us further.

[SumJongGuy]

won't change a thing except enslave us further.

Damn, you're on to us.. It's all a grande scheme to take your guns!

[Bunion 2020]

^^^ And eat your babies.

MMMMM babies.

[rideit]

Denier babies are saltier

[SkiCougar]

>>i'm sure these guys are all in the pockets of "big oil" but here you go:
"A global network of 500 scientists and professionals from many, many countries has sent this urgent message to the UN: “There is no climate emergency”

>>see, i can post a support of seemingly never ending list of scientists too !
https://clintel.nl/wp-content/upload...versieNWA4.pdf

SCIENTISTS AND PROFESSIONALS FROM UNITED KINGDOM
1. Christopher Monckton of Brenchley, Peer of the Realm and author of several reviewed papers on climate; ECD Ambassador
2. David Bodecott, Consultant Geophysics and Geology, Fellow of the Geological Society of London
3. D. Q. Bowen, Emeritus Professor of Earth and Ocean Sciences, Fellow International Union for Quaternary Research, Cardiff University
4. Michael Brown, Expert in large scale thermal fluid dynamic models.
5. John C. W. Cope, Professor of Natural Sciences, National Museum Wales, Cardiff
6. Richard Courtney, Retired Material Scientist, Expert Peer Reviewer of the IPCC
7. Isabel Davis, Geophysicist and Entrepreneur
8. Howard Dewhirst FGS, Geologist, Initiator Open Letter to the Geological Society of London
9. Gregor Dixon FGS, Geologist, former member Geological Society of London
10. Roderick Paul Eaton, Retired Energy Systems Analyst from the UK Electricity Supply Industry
11. Peter Gill, Physicist, Former Chair of the Institute of Physics Energy Group, UK
12. Gil Gilchrist, Geophysicist, UK
13. Tim Harper FGS, Geologist, Entrepreneur, Devon
14. Bob Heath, retired Geophysicist, Honorary member of the Indian Society of Petroleum Geologists
15. David A. L. Jenkins, Geologist, Director Hurricane Energy plc
UK
18. Peter Owen FGS, Fellow of the Geological Society of London
19. Clive Randle, Geologist, Fellow of the Geological Society of London
SCIENTISTS AND PROFESSIONALS FROM CANADA
1. Jeffrey Ernest Foss, Professor of Philosophy of Science, University of Victoria, English Canada; ECD Ambassador
2. Reynald Du Berger, Emeritus Professor of Geophysics at the L’Université du Québec a Chicoutimi, French Canada, ECD Ambassador
3. Alain Bonnier, Physicist, INRS-Centre de Recherche and Energy Montréal, Canada
4. Ian Clark, Professor of Earth and Environmental Sciences, University of Ottawa
5. Susan Crockford, Zoologist and Polar Bear Expert, Former Adjunct Professor University of Victoria, Canada
6. Paul A. Johnston, Associate Professor, Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences, Mount Royal University, Calgary, Alberta
7. Klaus L.E. Kaiser, Retired Research Scientist, National Water Research Institute, Author of Numerous Press Articles, Canada
8. Madhav Khandekar, Expert Reviewer IPCC 2007 AR4 Cycle, Canada
9. Kees van Kooten, Professor of Economics and Canada Research Chair in Environmental Studies and Climate, University of Victoria, Canada
10. Allen MacRae, retired Engineer, Canada
11. Paul MacRae, Independent Climate Researcher, Canada
12. Patrick Moore, Ecologist, Chair CO2 Coalition, Co-Founder Green Peace, Canada
13. Brian R. Pratt, Professor of Geological Sciences, University of Saskatchewan
14. Peter Salonius, Retired Research Scientist, Natural Resources, Canada
15. Marcelo C. Santos, professor of Geodesy, University of New Brunswick, Canada
16. Ian Semple, Retired Geologist, of McGill University, Canada
17. William van Wijngaarden, Professor of Physics, York University, Canada
SCIENTISTS AND PROFESSIONALS FROM CHINA AND HONG KONG
1. NG Young, Principal Geoscientist, Danxiashan Global Geopark of China
2. Wyss Yim, Retired Professor, Department of Earth Sciences, The University of Hong Kong, Hong Kong SAR, China / Deputy Chairman, Climate Change Science
Implementation Team, UNESCO International Year for Planet Earth 2007-2009 / Expert Reviewer IPCC AR2
SCIENTISTS AND PROFESSIONALS FROM INDIA
1. Sanjeev Sabhlok, Economist with focus on climate and energy policy, India
SCIENTISTS AND PROFESSIONALS FROM JAPAN
1. Masayuki Hyodo, Professor of Earth Science, Kobe University, Japan
SCIENTISTS AND PROFESSIONALS FROM NEW ZEALAND
1. Terry Dunleavy MBE, co-founder (2006) and honorary secretary, New Zealand Climate Science Coalition; ECD Ambassador
2. Deborah Alexander, Agricultural Scientist, New Zealand
3. Jock Allison, retired Agricultural Scientist, Ministry of Agriculture,New-Zealand
4. Barry Brill , OBE, Previously Minister of Science and Techology, New Zealand
5. Doug Edmeades, Managing Director agKnowledge Ltd., New Zealand
6. Roger High Dewhurst, Retired, geologist/hydrogeologist, New Zealand
7. Geoffrey G. Duffy, Professor Emeritus, University of Auckland, New Zealand
8. Joe Fone, CAD Engineer, Enatel Ltd
9. Bryan Leyland, Power Systems Engineer and Experienced Renewable Energy Specialist
10. Gerrit J. van der Lingen, Paleoclimatologist, New Zealand, Author of the Book The Fable of Stable Climate
18 European Climate Declaration September 26, 2019
11. John Scarry ME (Civil), structural engineer, member of the New Zealand Climate Science Coalition
12. John Sexton, Member of the New Zealand Climate Coalition
13. Philip Strong, Science Research Leader & Member of the New Zealand Climate Coalition
14. Richard Treadgold, Executive Member NZ Climate Scienc Coalition, Convenor Climate Conversation Group
SCIENTISTS AND PROFESSIONALS FROM RUSSIAN FEDERATION
1 Habibullo Abdussamatov, Head of the Space Research Sector of the Sun, Pulkova Observatory RAS and Head of the Lunar Observatory Project on Monitoring of the Climate, Russian Federation
SCIENTISTS AND PROFESSIONALS FROM SOUTH-AFRICA
1. Rosemary Falcon, Emeritus Professor Clean Coal Technology Research Group at the University of Witwatersrand, Director Fossil Fuel Foundation
2. John Ledger, Visiting Professor at the University of the Witwatersrand, Energy and Environmental Consultant
3. Don Mingay, Retired Professor of Nuclear Physics, South Africa
SCIENTISTS AND PROFESSIONALS FROM USA
1. Richard Lindzen, Emeritus Professor Atmospheres, Oceans and Climate, MIT, USA; ECD Ambassador
2. Ralph B. Alexander, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Science Writer
3. Anthony J. Armini, Retired Founder and CEO Implant Sciences Corp.., USA
4. Tim Ball, Emeritus Professor Geography, University of Winnipeg, Canada and Advisor of the International Science Coalition
5. Hans-Peter Bär, Emeritus Professor of Pharmacology, Canada and Former Dean of Basic Medical Sciences, American University of Barbados, Barbados
6. James R. Barrante, Emeritus Professor of Physical Chemistry, USA
7. Charles G. Battig, Climate Adviser, Heartland Institute, USA
8. Larry Bell, Endowed Professor of Space Architecture, University of Houston, USA
9. Elliott D. Bloom, Emeritus Professor of Particle Physics and Astrophysics, KIPAC-SLAG, Stanford University
10. Daniel Botkin, Emeritus Professor of Biology, Climate Researcher, Author of the Book: Twenty-five Myths That Are Destroying the Environment, USA
11. Martin Cornell, Retired Senior Scientist, Dow Chemical Company, USA
12. Joseph S. D’aleo, Professor of Meteorology and Climatology at Lyndon Stage College, Founder of Icecap.us, First Director of meteorology of the Weather Channel, USA
13. David Deming, Professor of Arts & Sciences, University of Oklahoma, USA
14. Harold H. Doiron, Retired NASA Engineer, USA
15. John Droz jr, Physicist, Founder of AWED Alliance, USA
16. Freeman Dyson, Emeritus Professor Natural Sciences, Institute of Advanced Study, Princeton University, USA
17. Peter Farrell, Fellow of the US National Academy of Engineering, USA
18. Rex Fleming, Research Scientist, Author of Book on Carbon Dioxide Fallacy, Retired President Global Aerospace, USA
19. Gordon J. Fulks, Astrophysicist, Board of Directors CO2 Coalition, Co-founder Global Warming Realists
20. Terry Gannon, Physicist, Retired Semiconductor Executive, USA
21. Ulrich H. Gerlach, Professor of Mathematics, Ohio State University, USA
22. Laurence I. Gould, Professor of Physics, University of Hartford, Past Chair, New England Section of the American Physical Society.
23. Steve Goreham, Executive Director, Climate Science Coalition of America, USA
24. David Heald, Retired Electrical Engineer, USA
25. Howard C. Hayden, Emeritus Professor of Physics, University of Connecticut, USA
26. Wayne P. Kraus, Member American Institute of Chemical Engineers (AIChE)
27. Patrick J. Michaels, Competitive Enterprise Institute, Washington DC, USA
19 European Climate Declaration September 26, 2019
28. Pamela Matlack-Klein, Member of Portuguese Sea Level Project, USA
29. Richard McFarland, Retired NASA Physicist, USA
30. Daniel W. Nebert, Professor Emeritus, Department of Environmental Medicine and Center for Environmental Genetics, University of Cincinnati
31. Thomas O’Connor, Member American Association of Petroleum Geologists, Washington, USA
32. Herman A. Pope, retired Aerospace Engineer NASA-JSC, USA
33. Willem Post, Independent Researcher regarding Energy and Environment
34. Phil Robinson, Retired Chemist in the Aluminium and Steel Industry
35. Willie Soon, Independent Scientist, USA
36. Ronald Stein, Professional Engineer, USA
37. Paul Taylor, Energy Economist, recipient Rossitor Raymond Award, Golden Colorado, USA
38. Richard Trzupek, Chemist and Air Quality Expert
39. Waheed Uddin, Professor of Engineering Science, University of Mississippi, Expert in Climate Modeling, Former Advisor UN
40. William B. Walters, Guggenheim Fellow, Professor of Atmospheric, Nuclear and Environmental Chemistry, University of Maryland, USA
41. Steven E. Weismantel, Retired Engineer and Climate Researcher, USA
42. Gregory R. Wrightstone, Expert Reviewer IPCCC 6th Assessment Report (AR6), USA
43. David Wojick, Cognitive Scientist, USA
44. Thomas Wysmuller, Retired NASA Executive, USA
45. Bob Zybach, Program Manager, Oregon Websites and Watersheds Project INC., USA

[Skidog]

It might have happened before but this is the first time I've seen either a truthful or factually correct statement from Skicouger.

It turns out many of the climate deniers in Skicouge's statement are connected to a transatlantic network of think tanks funded by oil companies. The signatories include members of the Koch funded Heartland Institute, the Taxpayers’ Alliance, etc., as well as various European climate science denial groups funded by people and entities with ties to Euro oil companies like Shell.


True to form for Skicouger, the talking points peddle in stale falsehoods and gross scientific nonsense.

how "many" out of 500?

[SumJongGuy]

how "many" out of 500?

Look at the titles in that list. Professor of Mathematics is hardly a climate scientist. "Professional Engineer"? LOL! Below are the opinions of peer reviewed studies from authors with credentials in climate and earth science disciplines.

For the purpose of this list, a "scientist" is defined as an individual who has published at least one peer-reviewed research article in the broad field of natural sciences, although not necessarily in a field relevant to climatology.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...raph_3Path.svg

[MultiVerse]

how "many" out of 500?

Not all of the signatories are members of think tanks funded by oil companies. Some of the signatories skip the pretense of think tanks altogether and are instead executives and former executives of oil and gas companies.

The misinformation campaign itself, the denial group behind the letter, is run by a former Shell Oil Company executive.

[WMD]

"The results underline the fact that solar energy is now becoming cost-competitive with conventional forms of energy in markets around the world. A recent study covering 344 cities in China, published in Nature, found that in all cases unsubsidized solar PV was cheaper than electricity supplied through the grid."


https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominic...-in-the-world/

[k2skier112]

https://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/2...attention.html

[old goat]

It might have happened before but this is the first time I've seen either a truthful or factually correct statement from Skicouger.

It turns out many of the climate deniers in Skicouge's statement are connected to a transatlantic network of think tanks funded by oil companies. The signatories include members of the Koch funded Heartland Institute, the Taxpayers’ Alliance, etc., as well as various European climate science denial groups funded by people and entities with ties to Euro oil companies like Shell.


True to form for Skicouger, the talking points peddle in stale falsehoods and gross scientific nonsense.

besides which an awful lot of them are retired profs. Not hard to get a doddering old fool to sign on to anything if it makes them feel relevant again. Surprised Linus Pauling isn't on the list.

[teledad]

Surprised Linus Pauling isn't on the list.

Pauling has been dead for 25 years, but he was a supporter of alternative energy (though his "thermal balance" argument isn't very robust): https://paulingblog.files.wordpress....91a44-900w.jpg

[old goat]

Pauling has been dead for 25 years, but he was a supporter of alternative energy (though his "thermal balance" argument isn't very robust): https://paulingblog.files.wordpress....91a44-900w.jpg

I was referring to his support for megadose vitamin C. People took him seriously because he was a Nobel Laureate--in an unrelated field.

[PB]

One could argue that the belief that just because one was successful in a micro-environment, that automatically translates into being able to know everything in the macro-environment, and insist that other people must listen and obey, has lead us to where we are today.

Not that it would do any good, mind you.

[old goat]

One could argue that the belief that just because one was successful in a micro-environment, that automatically translates into being able to know everything in the macro-environment, and insist that other people must listen and obey, has lead us to where we are today.

Not that it would do any good, mind you.

Which is why doctors are such easy prey for financial scammers. We think we know everything.

[rideit]

One could argue that the belief that just because one was successful in a micro-environment, that automatically translates into being able to know everything in the macro-environment, and insist that other people must listen and obey, has lead us to where we are today.

Not that it would do any good, mind you.

Ben Carson, example #1

[PB]

The worst is when a person was allowed to think they were special when in reality they're the exact opposite, and they then tale over the world.

The worst.

[WMD]

"The big lie we’re told about climate change is that it’s our own fault"

The dominant narrative around climate change tells us that it’s our fault. We left the lights on too long, didn’t close the refrigerator door, and didn’t recycle our paper. I’m here to tell you that is bullshit. If the light switch was connected to clean energy, who the hell cares if you left it on? The problem is not so much the consumption — it’s the supply. And your scrap paper did not hasten the end of the world.
Don’t give in to that shame. It’s not yours. The oil and gas industry is gaslighting you.
That same IPCC report revealed that a mere 100 companies are responsible for 71 percent of global climate emissions. These people are locking you and everything you love into a tomb. You have every right to be pissed all the way off. And we have to make them hear about it.

https://www.vox.com/first-person/201...ural-disasters

[SkiCougar]

DAMMIT !

"Temperatures now lower than during most of the last 630 million years"




"This past weekend I attended the Perot Museum of Nature and Science in Dallas, and took a photo of this chart showing Average Global Temperature over the past 630 million years."

https://www.iceagenow.info/temperatu...million-years/

>>no matter how much I drive my jeep, it just doesn't matter...



(I hope I at least get credit for the bill murray segue)

[The AD]

DAMMIT !

"Temperatures now lower than during most of the last 630 million years"

And humans have existed on Earth for maybe 300,000 years. I'll leave it as an exercise for you to determine what portion of this graph that represents.

[MultiVerse]

Couger's opinions are like a recent Lindsay Lohan movie: Horrible.


She basically presented a chart showing how the earth operates in two different climate modes. One is called greenhouse Earth and the other is called icehouse Earth.

In a greenhouse phase there is no ice on the planet, no ice sheets, no ice caps, no glaciers, no permafrost. There may be some winter precipitation but we don’t have the maintenance of glaciers. With icehouse Earth we have ice sheets and ice caps and glaciers persisting. Right now we are in icehouse because we have ice sheets even though they are melting and things are unstable we are still in an icehouse phase.

What we’ve learned through studying these long-term processes is that CO2 is the guerrilla in the climate system. CO2 controls these large scale shifts in climate over the Earth’s history. So if there’s more greenhouse gases in the atmosphere either through the release of deep deposits or through extraction due to chemical weathering it’s these large scale changes in greenhouse gases that tend to shift the significant modes in climate. That's how we know greenhouse gases really are the largest contributor to the Earth’s climate outside the sun which is producing energy for the whole system.


The weird thing is the people commenting in her link see the chart as proof of a climate conspiracy instead of what it is, a catastrophic scenario for humans.

[stuckathuntermtn]

Those T Rexes drove H2's and got what they deserved.

[The AD]

I didn't realize at first that Scoug got that chart from somewhere else. The fact he thought it was good enough to pass along here is just incredible.

The simple fact is that the Earth--or at least a very large part of it-- is going to be uninhabitable by humans at some point in the future. We'd like that point to be thousands of years from now rather than one hundred.