Ok, this global warming shit is getting out of hand...

[rideit]

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1855-2

[SkiCougar]

person of the year, too bad she couldn't take that kind of popularity to the countries doing the real pollution and take them to task like china who is responsible for 30% of co2 pollution

[SumJongGuy]

person of the year, too bad she couldn't take that kind of popularity to the countries doing the real pollution and take them to task like china who is responsible for 30% of co2 pollution

Da Komrade!

Whataboutism

[WMD]

Haha, Trump got beat by a little girl! Suck it cougs and RJ! You are on the wrong side of history and everybody but you knows it!!

[old goat]

person of the year, too bad she couldn't take that kind of popularity to the countries doing the real pollution and take them to task like china who is responsible for 30% of co2 pollution

Tough to sail to China from Sweden I think.

[k2skier112]

Tough to sail to China from Sweden I think.

that "fake" meme is illogical and reeks with desperation

[SumJongGuy]

person of the year, too bad she couldn't take that kind of popularity to the countries doing the real pollution and take them to task like china who is responsible for 30% of co2 pollution

Did China sign the Paris Climate Agreement? Asking for a friend...

As for them being 30% of greenhouse gasses.. Not sure about that, but am sure they're roughly 20% of the global population.

[dan_pdx]

Did China sing the Paris Climate Agreement? Asking for a friend...

As for them being 30% of greenhouse gasses.. Not sure about that, but am sure they're roughly 20% of the global population.

China's per-capita emissions are less than 1/3 of ours. We're ahead of Saudi Arabia on per-capita emissions (!)

https://cotap.org/per-capita-carbon-...ns-by-country/

[The AD]

Anyone who thinks Greta Thunberg is a fraud is just a sad, sad individual.

[rideit]

Fact is that Greta is usning the media FAR more effectively than anyone is using her.

[Elkhound Odin]

China's per-capita emissions are less than 1/3 of ours. We're ahead of Saudi Arabia on per-capita emissions (!)

https://cotap.org/per-capita-carbon-...ns-by-country/

Gross emission rate is more valid.
Per cap is not really a good indicator. It's sort of like comparing apples and oranges. If US had the population of China, our per cap value would be half theirs. Sure, if the point is to show how horrible the US is compared to other countries, this is as good as any I guess.
I'd like to see charts showing emission rate per land mass, or per average yearly income, or per amount of livestock, or per number of prisons, etc, etc, etc

[The Tortoise]

If US had the population of China, our per cap value would be half theirs.

Mind expanding on this?

Seems to me there are a LOT of people in China who basically live in poverty and create relatively little CO2.

[rideit]

Gross emission rate is more valid.
Per cap is not really a good indicator. It's sort of like comparing apples and oranges. If US had the population of China, our per cap value would be half theirs. Sure, if the point is to show how horrible the US is compared to other countries, this is as good as any I guess.
I'd like to see charts showing emission rate per land mass, or per average yearly income, or per amount of livestock, or per number of prisons, etc, etc, etc

Per number Of MacDonald’s.

[dan_pdx]

Gross emission rate is more valid.
Per cap is not really a good indicator. It's sort of like comparing apples and oranges. If US had the population of China, our per cap value would be half theirs. Sure, if the point is to show how horrible the US is compared to other countries, this is as good as any I guess.
I'd like to see charts showing emission rate per land mass, or per average yearly income, or per amount of livestock, or per number of prisons, etc, etc, etc

"More valid" in what sense? Both of those views are equally valid - China has higher total output, we have higher per capita. Burning more fossil fuel than the Saudis is pretty astonishing to me.

I'd like to see charts showing emission rate per land mass, or per average yearly income, or per amount of livestock, or per number of prisons, etc, etc, etc

I may be missing your point here, why are those particular stats of interest? What would be of interest to me are the primary sources of emissions in each country. I suspect for us, single-occupant SUVs and pickup trucks being daily driven as commuter vehicles make up a substantial chunk of it. If I'm right about that, grossing up our population to be the same as China's would give us substantially more emissions than them.

[old goat]

that "fake" meme is illogical and reeks with desperation

and racism

[COformtn]

all be skiing inside soon

[COformtn]

person of the year, too bad she couldn't take that kind of popularity to the countries doing the real pollution and take them to task like china who is responsible for 30% of co2 pollution

Americans consume so much more compared to the world does that really matter? And we have been doing it much much longer than china. We have decades more of responsibility

[dan_pdx]

all be skiing inside soon

Fresh tracks every day!

[Cono Este]

Did China sign the Paris Climate Agreement? Asking for a friend...

As for them being 30% of greenhouse gasses.. Not sure about that, but am sure they're roughly 20% of the global population.

I spent 7 yrs in Santiago Chile, at that time one of the most polluted cities on earth.

Then I went China, where I saw islands of garbage floating down the Yangtze River. Plastic, dead animals etc, it was the most notable thing I saw in my two weeks. I’ve never seen anything like it. The amount of trash that then flows into the China Sea is some ridiculous amount.

I cannot take anyone serious who will not address what I have seen with my own eyes.

And yes, I recycle.


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[SumJongGuy]

I spent 7 yrs in Santiago Chile, at that time one of the most polluted cities on earth.

Then I went China, where I saw islands of garbage floating down the Yangtze River. Plastic, dead animals etc, it was the most notable thing I saw in my two weeks. I’ve never seen anything like it. The amount of trash that then flows into the China Sea is some ridiculous amount.

I cannot take anyone serious who will not address what I have seen with my own eyes.

And yes, I recycle.


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Would you drink tap water in Flint, MI? You, of all people should be fighting to clean up and keep our planet cleaner and more habitable. China has pledged to do this, we backed out..

[reckless toboggan]

Would you drink tap water in Flint, MI.

FIFY

[Cono Este]

55% of all river marine plastic deposited by the Yangtze!

Why, how, can you be dismissing that?


https://www.verdict.co.uk/yangtze-ri...tic-pollution/


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[WMD]

"Following the President's tweet, Thunberg updated her Twitter bio to reflect Trump's comments: "A teenager working on her anger management problem. Currently chilling and watching a good old fashioned movie with a friend.""

Why is Greta so threatening to old white men (disclaimer: I'm an old white man)?

Could it be that she is right? Could it be that she is showing them how immoral they are?

Trump again mocks teen climate activist Greta ThunbergPresident Donald Trump on Thursday again publicly mocked teen climate change activist Greta Thunberg, tweeting that the 16-year-old Swede who has inspired protesters worldwide has "anger management"...edition.cnn.com

[k2skier112]

55% of all river marine plastic deposited by the Yangtze!

Why, how, can you be dismissing that?


https://www.verdict.co.uk/yangtze-ri...tic-pollution/


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plastic pollution and global warming is comparing apples to oranges...

[Cono Este]

plastic pollution and global warming is comparing apples to oranges...

Agreed. But when you are dumping trash in your rivers, you are dumping trash in your rivers.
Give them time to start driving, burning fossil fuels, and they will not disappoint.

Probably the largest, looming disaster waiting to happen.

Now, I’m depressed.


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