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    You are sugar coating it.

    Cougs your're a dick and a moron.
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiCougar View Post
    your problem is you have changed the narrative to fit results. CO2 should be eternally warming the planet given human increases; things like 700 inches of snow in Tahoe last year should never have happened. I am not, if the sun weakens intensity, it cools, if it intensifies it warm and man is a pinprick. sun is weakening, its cooling.

    and i'll keep posting here as long as this political issue is not in polyass. I leave the weed thread alone as its legal, you all are adults and you all know long term will not work out well for you; not going to beat you over the head with that.
    Shut the fuck up you ignorant cunt. If you're too fucking ignorant to know that a warming of the earth leads to a change in the climate then there's no hope for you . Eat shit and die.

    I'll throw u a softball. What happens when u warm water, it evaporates. The earth is warming and water evaporates so there's more water vapor in the atmosphere. When that water vapor condenses it falls as rain or snow depending on temperature. More warming, more rain. It's not hard to understand if your not a fucking moron

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    Hey, Skoogs, read this, you fucking ignorant dolt.

    https://www.npr.org/2020/02/18/80312...ing-everything
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiCougar View Post
    and i'll keep posting here as long as this political issue is not in polyass. I leave the weed thread alone as its legal, you all are adults and you all know long term will not work out well for you; not going to beat you over the head with that.
    I could smoke all the weed in Colorado and still be smarter than your dumb ass.

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    More to cheer about. Numbers, how do they work.

    Yeah yeah, from the fucking Bezos paper.

    Climate change has stolen more than a billion tons of water from the West’s most vital river
    Declining snowpack is causing water supplies for the Colorado River to evaporate, new study finds

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    Feb. 20, 2020 at 12:00 p.m. MST

    The Colorado River’s average annual flow has declined by nearly 20 percent compared to the last century, and researchers have identified one of the main culprits: climate change is causing mountain snowpack to disappear, leading to increased evaporation.

    Up to half of the drop in the Colorado’s average annual flow since 2000 has been driven by warmer temperatures, four recent studies found. Now, two U.S. Geological Survey researchers have concluded that much of this climate-induced decline — amounting to 1.5 billion tons of missing water, equal to the annual water consumption of 10 million Americans — comes from the fact that the region’s snowpack is shrinking and melting earlier. Less snow means less heat is reflected from the sun, creating a feedback loop known as the albedo effect, they say.

    “The Colorado River Basin loses progressively more water to evaporation, as its sunlight-reflecting snow mantle disappears,” write the authors, USGS senior resource scientist Chris Milly and physical scientist Krista A. Dunne.

    The new findings are significant because about 40 million Americans living across the West depend on water from the Colorado River, which supports $1 trillion in economic activity each year. The water is shipped as far away as California’s Imperial Valley and central Arizona, where farmers use it to irrigate crops, as well as across the Rockies to supply drinking water for Colorado’s biggest cities.

    Milly and Dunne, who analyzed 960 different areas in the Upper Colorado River Basin to determine how disappearing snowpack influenced the river’s average annual flow, determined that the flow has dipped 9.3 percent for each temperature rise of 1 degree Celsius (1.8 degrees Fahrenheit). The average annual temperature for the area they surveyed has risen 1.4 degrees C (2.5 degrees F) in the past century, Milly said in a phone interview.

    The region is poised to warm even more in the years ahead, Milly said, and it isn’t “likely” that precipitation can compensate for these hotter and drier conditions. Comparing the Colorado River’s historic flow between 1913 and 2017 to future conditions, he added: “That flow, we estimate, due to the warming alone would be reduced anywhere from 14 to 31 percent by 2050.”


    Colorado State University senior scientist Brad Udall, who has written two papers attributing half of the Colorado River’s lower flows to warming temperatures, said in a phone interview that researchers now “have multiple lines of evidence pointing to a very similar number.”

    “And this number is worrying,” Udall said of the new study. “I would say eye-popping.”

    Under a 1922 compact, Upper Basin states — Colorado, Utah, Wyoming and New Mexico — must deliver an average of 8.25 million acre-feet of water in 10 consecutive years to the Lower Basin states — California, Arizona and Nevada — and Mexico. (An acre-foot is what it takes to cover an acre of land in a foot of water, or roughly 325,000 gallons.)

    But now that the Colorado River’s average annual flow is nearly 20 percent below its historic average, this has put pressure on the system. Its two biggest reservoirs, Lake Powell and Lake Mead, are just under half full.


    Andrew Mueller, general manager for the Colorado River District, said in an email that the new findings provide “confirmation of significantly grim indicators about future flow in the Colorado River.”

    The amount of water that would disappear with another 1 degree C temperature rise, he added, is nearly five times what Las Vegas uses each year. “A decline in flows of this magnitude will present a significant challenge to all inhabitants in the Colorado River Basin.”

    The current operating rules for the river expire at the end of 2026, and negotiations over how to share the water going forward start this year.

    Udall said that in light of current projections, policymakers need to consider crafting an agreement where all the major players in the West will use less water than they do now.

    “These projections are dire, but we’re looking at a glass that’s 70 percent full, not half full,” he said. “It could be grimmer.”

    Officials at the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation, who brokered a drought contingency plan among seven states and Mexico last year, said that they are continuing to monitor the way climate change is affecting the river.

    “Reclamation works closely with ​leading scientists at the state and federal level, as well as universities to understand the potential impacts of climate change on the Colorado River," said bureau spokesman Marlon Duke. "We will continue to use the best available science to manage the river to sustain reliable water far into the future.”


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/clima...t-vital-river/
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

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    If not for the big storms in December, CA would be fucked this year. But shit is getting real.

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    I think you'd have an easier time understanding people if you remembered that 80% of them are fucking morons.
    That is why I like dogs, more than most people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins View Post
    I think you'd have an easier time understanding people if you remembered that 80% of them are fucking morons.
    That is why I like dogs, more than most people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    but, but, but...ice age now sayz....

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    Good news for San Diego and Portland. https://www.yahoo.com/news/asked-12-...191600548.html
    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins View Post
    I think you'd have an easier time understanding people if you remembered that 80% of them are fucking morons.
    That is why I like dogs, more than most people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liv2ski View Post
    Good news for San Diego and Portland. https://www.yahoo.com/news/asked-12-...191600548.html
    And don’t forget Suckramento.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liv2ski View Post
    Good news for San Diego and Portland. https://www.yahoo.com/news/asked-12-...191600548.html
    They brought us the newsflash that Tulsa isn't threatened by sea level changes. Thanks yahoo!

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    Looks like those wacko socialist libs over at JP Morgan are also clutching their pearls over the climate, whatta bunch of maroons, amirite?
    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...eat-human-race

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    The deniers will come around when they have to strangle their own grandchildren for humanitarian reasons.
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    From the JP Morgan article: "The world’s largest financier of fossil fuels has warned clients that the climate crisis threatens the survival of humanity and that the planet is on an unsustainable trajectory, according to a leaked document.
    "The JP Morgan report on the economic risks of human-caused global heating said climate policy had to change or else the world faced irreversible consequences."

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    Quote Originally Posted by WMD View Post
    From the JP Morgan article: "The world’s largest financier of fossil fuels has warned clients that the climate crisis threatens the survival of humanity and that the planet is on an unsustainable trajectory, according to a leaked document.
    "The JP Morgan report on the economic risks of human-caused global heating said climate policy had to change or else the world faced irreversible consequences."
    JP Morgan is in on the hoax now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    JP Morgan is in on the hoax now?
    this is a clear play on commodity stocks ,which are on a down trend ,because economies are on th erise..its basic economics..not climate
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    Co2 based argument for climate change has not been actually proven

    >ice core samples are the only claim to a direct link; though the presence of more co2 naturally would involve the presence of more o2 as well/ the presence of more co2 and 02 would result in more moisture from the atmosphere ,its basic science.

    >the experiment which claims to prove co2's increased presence adds to atmosphere heating is flawed at its base. They use a model that has a solid atmosphere in their experiment(ie> a glass globe simulating it) the heat used in the experiment heats the glass which in turn heats the co2 . Its does not accurately simulate our earth's atmosphere.
    ski paintingshttp://michael-cuozzo.fineartamerica.com" horror has a face; you must make a friend of horror...horror and moral terror.. are your friends...if not, they are enemies to be feared...the horror"....col Kurtz

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    Quote Originally Posted by baron View Post
    this is a clear play on commodity stocks ,which are on a down trend ,because economies are on th erise..its basic economics..not climate
    Commodity “stocks” are going down because economies are on the rise? Basic economics you say. huh.

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    BBC News - Study finds quarter of climate change tweets from bots
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51595285
    Great way to tell when your on the wrong side of something? Russians, sock puppets, and bots all agree with you. (Deniers)
    No longer stuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baron View Post
    Co2 based argument for climate change has not been actually proven

    .
    However, if it hasn’t been disproven, then the intelligent thing to do is act as if it were happening, don’t you think?
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    oh-no, 699 new all time cold records broken; store up firewood now; get in you SUV and start it up !:

    https://www.iceagenow.info/brutal-ar...-next-10-days/

    "Brutal Arctic Cold set to Engulf North America over the next 10 Days"

    "Over the past 7 days alone, the U.S. (CONUS) set a total of 600 new all-time cold records vs just the 239 for heat, according to the official data from filthy warm-mongers NOAA."


    >>ok, for those of you who have been littering this page with insults on me, I will not stop.

    the measures used to record higher temperatures have been questioned.

    meanwhile, severity of hurricanes and tornados have been declining historically as has temperatures in some measuremens.

    the California drought picture posted above is a one year event, squaw had 700 inches of snow last year and claifornia is historically dry anyways.

    the have been ice ages occurring with CO2 levels much higher than they are today.

    the greater influence on climate are ocean currents and solar variance than a change in a percent of 0.004% of the atmosphere

    and all of your of the western worlds screaming about CO2 means nothing with china and india and the developing world increasing CO2 output at multiple levels for every ounce of CO2 it reduces.

    your efforts also mean nothing if you do not include nuclear as the cleanest and most efficient energy.

    and you all intend to bankrupt the country over something which will have no measurable affect, so that makes this a political issue(but it's not in polyass, WTH ?)

    so, i'm going to continue to mock you all; keep insulting me if it makes you feel better.
    TGR forums cannot handle SkiCougar !

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    Quote Originally Posted by frorider View Post
    And don’t forget Suckramento.
    "Sacramento, California may be vulnerable to wildfires, but it could still be one of the safest places to avoid the cumulative effects of natural disasters.

    According to Vivek Shandas, an urban-planning professor at Portland State University, Sacramento ranks among the cities that are least vulnerable to the cumulative effects of hurricanes, sea level rise, tornadoes, flooding, droughts, landslides, and wildfires."

    Utter bullshit article. Wildfire risk is minimal; Sacramento is in lowest risk zone, since it is surrounded by farm land, not chaparral or forest. OTOH it has the highest flood risk of any major city in the US--higher than NOLA pre Katrina--it's just dodged the bullet (barely) so far. While it is less vulnerable to short term drought than many places in CA, it is still just as vulnerable to prolonged drought as the rest of the West and Southwest. And at 30 feet above sea level it should be safe from rising sea levels in our lifetimes, it won't be forever.

    But why worry, we're all going to be dead from rat flu soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    BBC News - Study finds quarter of climate change tweets from bots
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51595285
    Great way to tell when your on the wrong side of something? Russians, sock puppets, and bots all agree with you. (Deniers)
    The largest use of fossil-fuel-generated electricity is server farms, so the Russian bots are one of the biggest source of CO2. (And before any of you drag out bs articles from denier websites to prove I'm wrong--I made it up)

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    Quote Originally Posted by neufox47 View Post
    Commodity “stocks” are going down because economies are on the rise? Basic economics you say. huh.
    you clearly know nothing about commodities / they rise at the end of an up cycle,and are suppressed during a strong economic cycle..compare a dow chart with oil-and you will learn a little. When commodities go up again,above normal trading range,is when the stock market is getting ready to crash. Rising costs are part of that equation
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