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  1. #2576
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    Had to stop reading here awhile back. I see Ron still has corporate Johnson’s in his ears.

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    Where did STFU go? He could put this thread out of its misery.

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    Here is a report detailing some of the Koch Oligarchs anti climate lobbying in action. Pushing the narrative we all have to live with. You can look at the money they spread around and literally track it back to the nonsensical positions espoused here.

    https://www.desmogblog.com/2019/11/1...y%20newsletter

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    This is cool. Model simulates earth with no CO2 in the atmosphere.

    https://twitter.com/CColose/status/1...928900096?s=19

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    >>dammit !

    "Western Hudson Bay freeze-up earlier than average for 1980s for 3rd year in a row"

    https://www.iceagenow.info/western-h...year-in-a-row/

    get in your suv's and start them up Canada !
    Eat em up Houston Cougars !

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamal View Post

    And here's some info about how global warming could be causing some of those record cold temps

    https://insideclimatenews.org/news/0...climate-change
    It's interesting how rapid warming in the Arctic influences mid-latitude circulation because of a weakened jet stream. From jamal's link:

    "The northern polar jet stream (it has a counterpart in the Southern Hemisphere) is driven partly by the temperature contrast between masses of icy air over the North Pole and warmer air near the equator. Climate change, true to the predictions of the past half century, has led to faster warming in the Arctic than in the temperate zones. So the temperature difference between the two regions has been lessening.

    Research suggests that this reduction in the temperature difference is robbing the jet stream of some of its strength, making it wobblier and contributing to more temperature extremes."

    The bummer is climate change contributes to Mid-to-East Canada/U.S. cold snaps while the West becomes hotter and drier.

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    each countries share of CO2 emiisions as a percentage:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/i...?itok=KjG6ISQy

    https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/gre...al-fired-power

    China 29%

    USA 16%

    China - 987 coal plants with 121 under construction
    Where's Greta ? Send her to China NOW !
    Eat em up Houston Cougars !

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    Quote Originally Posted by MultiVerse View Post
    It's interesting how rapid warming in the Arctic influences mid-latitude circulation because of a weakened jet stream. From jamal's link:

    "The northern polar jet stream (it has a counterpart in the Southern Hemisphere) is driven partly by the temperature contrast between masses of icy air over the North Pole and warmer air near the equator. Climate change, true to the predictions of the past half century, has led to faster warming in the Arctic than in the temperate zones. So the temperature difference between the two regions has been lessening.

    Research suggests that this reduction in the temperature difference is robbing the jet stream of some of its strength, making it wobblier and contributing to more temperature extremes."

    The bummer is climate change contributes to Mid-to-East Canada/U.S. cold snaps while the West becomes hotter and drier.
    This site does pretty cool visualizations, I think they may have been posted already in here but there are pages and pages of stupid bullshit so

    https://climatereanalyzer.org

    Here's the temp anomoly map, so difference between current or forecasted temperature compared to average.



    Here's the one for all of last year


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    Good to see someone else reads ZH (although I've taken a break from it lately, too much doom porn and political stuff, not enough economic stuff).
    Chronic Complainer Experiencing Ikon Cognitive Dissonance Since 2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamal View Post
    Here's the one for all of last year

    Holy shit this is terrifying!

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    https://www.iceagenow.info/cold-peri...ollapse-video/

    "Cold periods correlate with civilization collapse – Video"

    OH NO !

    and we have been having record cold all over !

    get in your suv's quick ! take a plane flight ! help fund building a coal plant !

    anything we can to heat up the planet, we may only have 12 years before it's too late and the only place that will be warm enough is Mexico !
    Eat em up Houston Cougars !

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    You might as well cite an Art Bell article, dumbfuck
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    Speaking of "collapse", Venice is sinking..
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    the situation strikes me as WAY too much drama at this point

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    Yeah but that is in some 3rd world shithole so it don't count.
    Ooof!

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    ^^^What about Mont Blanc on the Italian side?? Also about to collapse..
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Anything Scougs posts is liable to assume the reader lacks critical reasoning.

    Cold periods are correlated with civilization collapses?

    Apparently this is why

    Social mood always turns negative with colder climate, and that brings about riots and wars
    No way. I'm sure it has nothing to do with ancient civilizations having limited ability to combat food shortages due to weather.

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    Climate change is making koalas extinct!

    "As Australia experiences record-breaking drought and bushfires, koala populations have dwindled along with their habitat, leaving them “functionally extinct.”"


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevorn...their-habitat/

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    https://www.iceagenow.info/if-there-...-its-too-late/

    Bernie said we only had 8 or 9 years left on climate; downing the number from 12. appears it's already too late:

    from the former UN chair on climate in 2007: "“If there is no action before 2012, its too late."

    might as well enjoy your suv, take a plane flight; have some hamburgers from methane producing cows; it's too late now. enjoy it until the icecaps melt and flood your town or city.
    Eat em up Houston Cougars !

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiCougar View Post
    https://www.iceagenow.info/if-there-...-its-too-late/

    Bernie said we only had 8 or 9 years left on climate; downing the number from 12. appears it's already too late:

    from the former UN chair on climate in 2007: "“If there is no action before 2012, its too late."

    might as well enjoy your suv, take a plane flight; have some hamburgers from methane producing cows; it's too late now. enjoy it until the icecaps melt and flood your town or city.
    Compared to this guy RJ is a genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyskirat View Post
    Anything Scougs posts is liable to assume the reader lacks critical reasoning.

    Cold periods are correlated with civilization collapses?

    Apparently this is why



    No way. I'm sure it has nothing to do with ancient civilizations having limited ability to combat food shortages due to weather.
    A look at factors driving Chicago violence as the city sees dramatic increases in the number of shooting victims and homicides. (Jemal R. Brinson / Chicago Tribune)

    The seasonal cycle of Chicago crime peaks during summer months, but not all types of crime are equally susceptible to changes in temperature.
    The Tribune looked at Chicago police crime data from January 2012 to June 2017, some 1.5 million incidents, from homicides and shootings to drug offenses and theft. Correlating those day-by-day crime records with changes in average daily temperature shows some types of crime are much more likely to increase when the weather is hotter and decrease when cooler. To show this, the Tribune built a statistical model to quantify the effect of temperature on different types of crime. The model controls for the differences in average daily temperature, as well as the frequency of different types of crimes, over the years. Once these variations are accounted for, the model then tries to predict the number of crime incidents, per crime type, for every 10 degrees increase in temperature.
    Battery, which includes shootings, is among the crimes that increase most as temperature rises, as do theft and criminal damage. However, homicide does not show a relationship to temperature, nor do drug crimes.
    Here are major crime categories, from the City of Chicago Data Portal as they relate to changes in temperature, from the Midwest Regional Climate Center.
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    = 1 day (plotted by temperature and number of crime incidents)
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    Why zero homicides?
    Why zero? This zero doesn't mean there are no homicides, it means that homicides don't predictably increase with rises in temperature. Although homicides rise during the summer months and have spiked dramatically in 2016 and 2017 the relationship between homicide and temperature is not linear. If one rises, the other doesn't necessarily rise with it. Battery, for example, which includes shootings, rises in a consistent and dramatic fashion when temperature increases. Spikes in homicide over the last five years are inconsistent and rise and fall irrespective of changes in temperature.

    Showing our work
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    Sources: City of Chicago Data Portal, Midwestern Regional Climate Center
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    ok,

    so many of you are so concerned about “climate change”. Well, as the saying goes; talk is cheap. If you want to have an affect why aren’t you starting with yourself.

    Here’s a list of minimums you should be doing right now:
    1. you need to travel by bike everywhere possible. Even an electric vehicle will not do as the power source for that is likely coal via electricity.
    2. You should not be using heat in the winter nor a/c in the summer. A lot of the world makes do without it, the least you can do is the same to save the planet
    3. You need to wash your clothes by hand
    4. You need to stop buying new clothes as so many are made with petroleum based products and buy clothes second hand from now on
    5. You need to stop using most cosmetics and many beauty products and only take cold showers as your water is likely heated by gas.
    6. You need to only eat foods that come out of the ground, even butter and milk should not be eaten from those methane producing coews
    7. You need to limit your internet and phone and tv use to the minimums needed to get info or communicate
    8. And last, you need to stop skiing and boarding; those resorts do nothing but add to carbon use even if they are powered by renewable as so many who visit them are skiing with and wearing petroleum based products and took planes and suvs to get there.


    If you are so concerned and not doing these things, your commitment is pathetic.

    I realize it will take a few days to make these changes, i'll be waiting to hear from those that did


    (this was good stuff, a lot of leftist idiots are going to tell me to fuck off when I hit them with this rationalization; then the rest of their day will be miserable knowing most everything the do and wear harms the planet)
    Eat em up Houston Cougars !

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    A good start would be to kill yourself, coogs.
    Think of the children.
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    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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