I love my wife and all, but Jesus Hercules Christ...

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Oh fuck no.

Pre
Rinse

Back in the day we had kitchen aid dishwashers that ate everything. Fucking built in disposal. No rinse. Not even a scrape.
Meat scraps, veg, whatever.

Today? All that food ends up in the filter basket. Stank nasty.
And most people don’t even clean it out.

PS. Modern dishwasher works great on China and crystal cycle. Fuck waiting three hours.

Is that what the salesman told you? A dishwasher drain isn’t large enough to handle the waste even if it’s ground up. Appliance repairmen will tell you that not scraping and gross rinsing is a sure way to kill even modern dishwashers. Why would a dishwasher need a filter if it had a built in disposal?

I’ve had the same dishwasher for 20 years, the secret is scrape and rinse. Clean the filter.


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[skaredshtles]

I had that conversation with my cousin's husband, who's a civil engineer and particular about process - I was helping with dishes at their house and got a tongue lashing for not pre-rinsing. I explained that wasn't a thing anymore, but pretty sure he just thought I was shirking / didn't know how to do dishes.

Can someone tell me when this changed? Used to be DW's had built-in disposals to handle food waste, but my understanding was those were eliminated due to efficiency rules? Without a built-in disposal, where do all the chunkies go? Get caught in a filter?

[zion zig zag]

Anyone else ever run the same thing through the dishwasher for months because they were too lazy to hand wash it? I bet a put a spatula through 100+ cycles one time before it got cleaned.

[dan_pdx]

Can someone tell me when this changed? Used to be DW's had built-in disposals to handle food waste, but my understanding was those were eliminated due to efficiency rules? Without a built-in disposal, where do all the chunkies go? Get caught in a filter?

Check out this shit: https://www.cnet.com/home/kitchen-an...t-food-stains/

Money quote: So, in a way, your dishwasher digests the food stains on your dishes. These two enzymes are called protease and amylase, and they digest protein and starch, respectively.

And yeah, anything big enough winds up in the filter, but I rarely have much in there.

[AK47bp]

I’m a rabid pre rinser.

The drain hose is like 3/4ths to a half inch diameter, I’m not taking any chances even with the filter.


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[Core Shot]

Can someone tell me when this changed? Used to be DW's had built-in disposals to handle food waste, but my understanding was those were eliminated due to efficiency rules? Without a built-in disposal, where do all the chunkies go? Get caught in a filter?

Yes. And my wife has no idea there is a filter.

And at friends houses I have been horrified by what is in there.

It’s like our trash cans that magically get bleached at least three times a year. She has no idea these things are necessary.

Staying at a friends house this week. Opened their trash barrel and it was a surstroming challenge.
Once I stopped dry heaving and gagging I bleached the fuck out of that thing.

[skaredshtles]

Check out this shit: https://www.cnet.com/home/kitchen-an...t-food-stains/

Money quote: So, in a way, your dishwasher digests the food stains on your dishes. These two enzymes are called protease and amylase, and they digest protein and starch, respectively.

And yeah, anything big enough winds up in the filter, but I rarely have much in there.

So do you at least scrape off the large bits of stuff before putting dishes in? I have this vision of a plate with some meat scraps and a couple broccoli florets and you just throwing it all in the dishwasher.

[Elkhound Odin]

I know for a first hand fact DW can’t handle broken glass chunks. Plastic motor bits just get destroyed


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[skaredshtles]

I know for a first hand fact DW can’t handle broken glass chunks. Plastic motor bits just get destroyed

What?!? Dishwashing detergent doesn't have broken glass enzymes?!? Color me disappointed.

[dan_pdx]

So do you at least scrape off the large bits of stuff before putting dishes in? I have this vision of a plate with some meat scraps and a couple broccoli florets and you just throwing it all in the dishwasher.

Yeah, no bones, fish skin or large chunks, but I don't get too particular. Rice grains might make it into the dishwasher, for instance. We had a dog until earlier this year (pour one out for our little buddy) and composting, so the scraps that might be too big for the dishwasher find a home.

I know for a first hand fact DW can’t handle broken glass chunks. Plastic motor bits just get destroyed

LOL, yeah, that's probably out of spec. You need the industrial model for that.

[skaredshtles]

Yeah, no bones, fish skin or large chunks, but I don't get too particular. Rice grains might make it into the dishwasher, for instance. We had a dog until earlier this year (pour one out for our little buddy) and composting, so the scraps that might be too big for the dishwasher find a home.

Alright. I'm glad to hear you're not a monster.

[Timberridge]

Father always gave the domestic help Saturday and Sunday off. We've carried on the tradition, so on Friday night we bring out fiestaware and stainless steel utensils which can go into the the dishwasher. But otherwise Carmela and her daughter hand wash the fine china and silver Mon-Friday.

[Jong Lafitte]

Father always gave the domestic help Saturday and Sunday off. We've carried on the tradition, so on Friday night we bring out fiestaware and stainless steel utensils which can go into the the dishwasher. But otherwise Carmela and her daughter hand wash the fine china and silver Mon-Friday.

Maybe they only taught this at public schools but JHFC how fucking nouveau can u be? Stainless? On SUNDAY?!?!? Seriously, where is your weekend crew?

I recall some good advice: the weekend crew is worth the nominal extra expense. FFS. Do you live in Siberia or something?


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[XXX-er]

all my appiances upstairs and down are on the old/ low end side, as opposed to yer dentist grade machines

they just keep chugging along cuz I think the older stuff was more trouble free

I never call the appliance repairman cuz they are easy to fix with help from info on a couple of websites if they do break

I just can't understand it when people talk about throwing out 5 yr old appliances

[ZomblibulaX]

I just can't understand it when people talk about throwing out 5 yr old appliances

Isn't newer always better? That's what my tv told me.

I pretty much wash everything before it goes in the dishwasher, for two reasons:
We don't run it every day, so things dry out and get crusted over and then a wash cycle merely bakes them on, and...
My second job at 14 was dish dog in a restaurant; I only racked one glass that still had lipstick on it and NEVER made that mistake again.

My MIL comes to stay with the kids when I'm away at work, and I am legitimately concerned they're going to get botulism one of these times. We can't do it without her help, but she can not get the dishes clean to save her life. The first thing I do when I get home is take all the silverware out of the drawer and all the plates and bowls off the shelves and hand wash them. I swear the woman is blind.

[liv2ski]

Is that what the salesman told you? A dishwasher drain isn’t large enough to handle the waste even if it’s ground up. Appliance repairmen will tell you that not scraping and gross rinsing is a sure way to kill even modern dishwashers. Why would a dishwasher need a filter if it had a built in disposal?

I’ve had the same dishwasher for 20 years, the secret is scrape and rinse. Clean the filter.


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This, I don't give a fuck what some sale man told you.

[Bunion 2020]

No mention of the wisdom of using a quality DW detergent? Well worth the extra cents.

[El Chupacabra]

I pretty much wash everything before it goes in the dishwasher, for two reasons:
We don't run it every day, so things dry out and get crusted over and then a wash cycle merely bakes them on, and...

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This. And we're on a septic system, so everything gets scraped into the trash can, try to minimize anything going down the drain.

[Beaver]

I had a shitty cheap Admiral DW I installed in about 1995 in a shitty house I owned. I talked to the new owner and the thing was still running last fall. Sure it was noisy like a table saw in the kitchen.

[PB]

No mention of the wisdom of using a quality DW detergent? Well worth the extra cents.

Quality DW detergent?!?!?

Line 'em up, Maynard.

[anotherVTskibum]

I pretty much wash everything before it goes in the dishwasher, for two reasons:
We don't run it every day, so things dry out and get crusted over and then a wash cycle merely bakes them on, and...
My second job at 14 was dish dog in a restaurant; I only racked one glass that still had lipstick on it and NEVER made that mistake again.

My MIL comes to stay with the kids when I'm away at work, and I am legitimately concerned they're going to get botulism one of these times...

I may have already said it upthread, but I really wish my wife could spend a month or two working in a decent commercial kitchen. Understanding the difference between food safe surfaces, those that aren't, and that "clean" for a food surface doesn't just mean "looks clean" would make me feel fat better about our kitchen.

Sometimes she gets pissed when I bring up something that would get written up if seen by a health inspector and says, "have I made you sick since you moved in?"

Well, no, not acutely, but I haven't been in a car crash in longer than that but I still wear my seat belt and stop at stop signs.

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[TahoeJ]

Anyone else ever run the same thing through the dishwasher for months because they were too lazy to hand wash it? I bet a put a spatula through 100+ cycles one time before it got cleaned.

You'd better fucking believe it. haha.

[zion zig zag]

Isn't newer always better? That's what my tv told me.

I pretty much wash everything before it goes in the dishwasher, for two reasons:
We don't run it every day, so things dry out and get crusted over and then a wash cycle merely bakes them on, and...
My second job at 14 was dish dog in a restaurant; I only racked one glass that still had lipstick on it and NEVER made that mistake again.

My MIL comes to stay with the kids when I'm away at work, and I am legitimately concerned they're going to get botulism one of these times. We can't do it without her help, but she can not get the dishes clean to save her life. The first thing I do when I get home is take all the silverware out of the drawer and all the plates and bowls off the shelves and hand wash them. I swear the woman is blind.

Damn, are you just bored? Nobody is getting botulism from dirty dishes.

[Supermoon]

I would think everything gets sterilized in the heat of the DW, even the baked on stuff.

[Bunion 2020]

That and the chemicals in DW detergent.