Warning: Vail/Park City identity theft risk. Won't ski there again.

[EaglesPDX]

Vail/Parky City demands your birth date, full name, full address, phone number, email address before they will sell you a lift ticket.These are all the incredients for identify theft with risk even higher with the credit card purchase where they can scam access to your credit card account. There is no expectation of security at this retail operation with low wage, transient labor who can easily access and sell your information to hackers for cash. None of this is needed by Vail/Park City for the purchase of a lift ticket. Vail/Park City is harvesting the information for marketing its products. Likely selling the informaton to second and third parties, furhter increasing the identify theft and financial fraud risks.Won't be skiing at Vail Park/City anymore. Changed our plans for the week to Alta and Deer Valley.

[PNWbrit]

Vail/Parky City demands your birth date, full name, full address, phone number, email address before they will sell you a lift ticket.

That must make for long lines at their ticket windows?

[adrenalated]

Why is this in trip reports? WRONG FORUM, JONG!

[EaglesPDX]

Why is this in trip reports? WRONG FORUM, JONG!

Because it's the report of a ski trip. Something people planning a ski trip might want to know.

[EaglesPDX]

That must make for long lines at their ticket windows?

Seemed to. A family of six next to me an they were there before I came and after I left still giving Vail all there ID theft info. Maybe the guy was negotiating to leave his first born vs. his entire familes personal data.

If I hadn't been skiing with group of locals, I'd have left. Bought a two day to cover plans they had and then Adios Park City after 26 years. Haven't been to Alta in years so that will be fun. And luxing out at Deer Valley is always nice. They just sell you a lift ticket vs. trying to turn you into a Vail zombie and crash your credit.

[huckbucket]

So you know for sure that they will turn you away if you don't give them this information? Do they verify somehow? If not, I don't see the problem. Just give them your name (on your cc anyway) and make up the rest. Agreed it's an invasion of privacy but whenever a retailer asks me for my zip code or phone number I just don't give it to them.

[PNWbrit]

So you know for sure that they will turn you away if you don't give them this information? Do they verify somehow? If not, I don't see the problem. Just give them your name (on your cc anyway) and make up the rest.

He could even pay in cash.

[EaglesPDX]

So you know for sure that they will turn you away if you don't give them this information?

I was pretty cranky and a supervisor appears over her shoulder. They "needed" the information "in case there's a problem with the lift ticket". I had a group of locals waiting on me so I wasn't prepared to walk away.

Sleazy and rude behaivor by Vail. They want it to spam their customers and possible sell the info to others. I'll steer clear of Vail resorts in future as I'd guess that is their method of operation.

[EaglesPDX]

He could even pay in cash.

Had nothing to do with the cash. I guess if I had been in a more creative frame of mind and not taken by surprise in the early AM, I'd have a phony ID ready to give them and have used cash.

Hence the warning to others to steer clear of Vail/PC.

No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.

[PNWbrit]

Park City after 26 years.

That's some persistence.

I skied there for one day and was over it

[EaglesPDX]

That's some persistence.

I skied there for one day and was over it

Friends live there, season ticket holders. I'll probably haver to ski there again if I want to ski with them (I do) but I'll definitely have a phony info ready to go.

I think they might have even asked for my drivers license but I can claim no ID just a fistful of dollars.

[jvskinn]

I think you might be a little paranoid.

Vail isn't interested in selling your info, what they are interested in is tracking everything you buy, much like a high end hotel or casino. They want to know what your spending habits are in the hopes of making you special offers/targeted advertising to induce you to buy something you normally wouldn't or to upsell you into a more expensive product.

As far as an employee stealing your info, I suppose that's legitimate, but it's a concern you must be having in a lot of places.

Vail Resorts is terrible in a lot of ways, but I don't think this is one.

[Snowy Spartan]

My dad lost a day lift ticket at vail last year. They just went in and looked up his info and boom. New one printed for him. If he paid cash and had no info, he probably would have had to buy a new one.

You have to give most of that info to sign up here as well. What's the difference?

I think you're over thinking it.

[snapt]

[EaglesPDX]

I think you might be a little paranoid.

Cautious informed consumer perhaps. All the consumer protection agencies warn against providing that kind of detailed information when there is no valid reason for the merchant asking for it and if there is no explicit protection provided.

Vail isn't interested in selling your info

Vail is interested in making money so if peddling high disposable income demographics makes them money, they probably will. Most companies who need that info offer privacy protection, that Vail does not means they own it and do what's profitable for them with it.

In regard to low pay employees stealing the valuable info, it is a common problem when, as in this case, the merchant has no protections.

Vail Resorts is terrible in a lot of ways, but I don't think this is one.

I would add this one to Vail's terrible ways and probably one of its worst. Treating customers badly and putting their personal info at risk is bad business.

[EaglesPDX]

My dad lost a day lift ticket at vail last year. They just went in and looked up his info and boom. New one printed for him. If he paid cash and had no info, he probably would have had to buy a new one.

You have to give most of that info to sign up here as well. What's the difference?

I think you're over thinking it.

Most places simply have a you keep the reciept vs. running an risky identity theft scam so they can spam you with advertising. Sleazy and dangerous.

[AK47bp]

I'm in the "what the fuck you need my birthday for I'm just buying a product" club.

That's bullshit.

Kids these days don't give a shit, half of them probably list their bday on their gay Facebook pages

If I'm required to put a bday for anything I just use my fake bday And give my shit gmail account that I made for spam.


Just seems like the world went and got itself in a big dam hurry. -brooks

[TomCrac]

I'm in the "what the fuck you need my birthday for I'm just buying a product" club.

That's bullshit.

Me too. You do not need all sorts of personal info. on me to buy something. If you say I do then F you, I'm out.

I also laugh when they want you to take a survey/questionnaire (particularly if it's on the way out like why you are changing your service etc.) you want to know , pay me.

[skifishbum]

.... shittiest tr ever posted.....

you = the moronic spawn of ak rover and it'snowjoker w/ a touch of paraniodial oburnhard franz
and the jong dumbfree goobered up the forums to attract
funny thing is sillytude fucked up and allow peeps including mags credit card #ers to be "targeted" but cause the terrain kicks ass peoples still go
i imagine they already gots my info i don't bother usin my freebies cause it's meh the terrain, the food, the crammed onto a sixbanger lifts the snowpack
sittle thugs hotlappin the apres meh to the max
but if your not there it just got a tad bit less sucky
dude you suck at the maggot thing
have someone move this abortion of an attempt at nothing resembling a trip report
best go to gapic or alpine zone and come back when youre ready to take your training wheels off
cause you're battin zero brah

[t-the-east]

you = the moronic spawn of ak rover and it'snowjoker w/ a touch of paraniodial oburnhard franz
and the jong dumbfree goobered up the forums to attract
funny thing is sillytude fucked up and allow peeps including mags credit card #ers to be "targeted" but cause the terrain kicks ass peoples still go
i imagine they already gots my info i don't bother usin my freebies cause it's meh the terrain, the food, the crammed onto a sixbanger lifts the snowpack
sittle thugs hotlappin the apres meh to the max
but if your not there it just got a tad bit less sucky
dude you suck at the maggot thing
have someone move this abortion of an attempt at nothing resembling a trip report
best go to gapic or alpine zone and come back when youre ready to take your training wheels off
cause you're battin zero brah

That's purely poetic. Whenever people ask my email/phone number/birthday/secret security question, I just smile and politely say "no thank you". I've never had anyone push this info after that. Just don't give everybody everything.

[Bunion 2020]

^^^ Boom!

[hatchgreenchile]

Of all the reasons you could give up on a mountain (low snow, weak terrain, ridiculous crowds, terrible access, location), you go with "brewing identity theft". That's funny.

TRs need photos. Try again.

[huckbucket]

I broke into Eagles phone and found this one pic TR;

[Harry]

Vail/Parky City demands your email address before they will sell you a lift ticket.

Just use Ryan.Dunfee@tetongravity.com

[stuckathuntermtn]

Have fun working on your swivel hips at Deer Valley. Do they still carry your skis from the car for you? That shit is identity theft waiting to happen.