Originally Posted by
SkiersLeft
1.) So you want an inbounds boot for both alpine bindings and beast?
2.) A lightweight sub 1200g touring boot? (Beast compattable?)
Yup.
Originally Posted by
SkiersLeft
You have Cochise 130's? When I bench test those with tech soles (not ground) the release in sth bindings is consistent enough that I wouldn't worry. That's at a din low enough to be tested... The machine won't test past 10,5 or 11 I think if I remember, been a while. So if you're riding at 14 etc you know what you need from past experiences. Which begs the point? Why so worried about exact release values? Margin of error etc.
Yeah. Got those. Love em. I didn't do the bench test myself. The shop (usually reliable, but not always) told me they failed outright with the shaved soles. I didn't try it with an unshaved set...although I have a set I could use for that. They tested them at 11, where I usually ride. If that's the top end of testable range, I'm not sure those results are trustworthy. I tend to trust a mag test more than a shop test
I'm not worried about exact release values...I just don't want to lose an ACL to a failed release. Really paranoid about my knee health. All this inquiry is based on an end goal of having mostly 1 boot for all the bindings AND healthy knees. At 165 lbs, I'm a little more worried about not coming out of a clamp than XavierD. I still make stupid moves multiple times a season where I'm really glad I eject, and I want the ski to release when it should.
Originally Posted by
SkiersLeft
Is it that big a pain just to take off your beast fitting? It sucks I know, wood screws bla bla bla.
Honestly, that probably wouldn't add much time to the sole swap. It's already a PITA. But one I've tolerated for some time.
Originally Posted by
SkiersLeft
How about dedicated alpine and touring setups? Or beast your inbounds skis? Or have both and spend lots of money.
Yeah. Auvgeek says the same thing. I've yet to find a boot that fits and performs as well as the cochise. That has by no means been an exhaustive search, but the search I have conducted has cost money and has resulted in nothing fitting or performing better. So I guess, the cochise with alpine soles is my answer to the alpine setup.
I don't like the beast so much that I want it on my inbounds skis. I do have a set on my billy goats, and I'm looking forward to re-installing the p18s. Honestly, I don't really like it (the beast) all that much, but I do think it's the best available option. I like skiing it way way way more than radicals and for transition time, touring with groups, tougher skinning, it's better than the CAST. For ascent weight and skiing feel, it's much better than a frame binding.
Originally Posted by
SkiersLeft
Why not just use your Cochise for alpine/beast? And get a lightweight boot for long tours?
Maybe I just don't get it.
No, I think you do. Cochise for alpine/beast with a backland something or other will likely be how it works out...but wouldn't it be great to have a cabrio boot with a higher shin height that doesn't have to swap soles.
Worth retrying the DIN test at a different shop? Or are you supremely confident in your results?
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