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  1. #601
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    Does the GripWalk Lupo sole (130C) work with standard FKS 18s? I’m an idiot when it comes to this compatibility stuff. I click in on my bench and looked ok...a little rubber on the toe but mostly its plastic on plastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by margotron View Post
    Does the GripWalk Lupo sole (130C) work with standard FKS 18s? Iím an idiot when it comes to this compatibility stuff. I click in on my bench and looked ok...a little rubber on the toe but mostly its plastic on plastic.
    It works. It does not officially meet safety standards.
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    Sweet. I’ll go break an ACL
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    Quote Originally Posted by burrito View Post
    After a few days this month I think the liners need to go. I donít mind how thin they are (I fit the shell pretty well), but the foam just feels so insubstantial that as soon as they pack out even a little theyíre going to be worthless.

    Side question: has anyone ditched the front buckle? I rarely ever tightened it much on past Kryptons and Full Tilts, and with the narrow 98mm last on the Lupos I donít feel like I need any downward force on the top of my foot. Thoughts?
    I ditched the front buckle as well as all the fiddly hardware that holds the tongue in place. Just duct tape the hole in the tongues and voila much simpler transitions.

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    I have a 25 clog (lower) from the current Factory if anyone is interested & a liner..... lightly used.

  6. #606
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastcoastdan View Post
    I ditched the front buckle as well as all the fiddly hardware that holds the tongue in place. Just duct tape the hole in the tongues and voila much simpler transitions.
    Were you able to unscrew the hardware or did you cut it? I couldnít get the t-nuts/rivets to do anything but spin when I tried to unscrew them, and the look of a sliced off strap would bug the crap out of me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burrito View Post
    Were you able to unscrew the hardware or did you cut it? I couldnít get the t-nuts/rivets to do anything but spin when I tried to unscrew them, and the look of a sliced off strap would bug the crap out of me.
    It doesn't unscrew, its a hard rivet that you have to drill out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdadour View Post
    It doesn't unscrew, its a hard rivet that you have to drill out.

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    I was afraid of that.

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    Drilled out the rivets while keeping the straps in tact. Quick trip to Ace for some t-nuts, screws, and washers. And voila, the superfluous front buckle is no more.
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  10. #610
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    A+. Looks factory (get it...) I'll see myself out lol.

    Love the black Voile. Whole thing is super clean.


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    Shit I might remove them too. Will ski a few days with 1st buckle unbuckled and see


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    Dalbello Lupo T.I / AT ?

    Quote Originally Posted by margotron View Post
    Shit I might remove them too. Will ski a few days with 1st buckle unbuckled and see


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    I will say that it was tough to do without destroying the straps. For each one I ended up having to drill through the rivet, pry up the head with a screwdriver and a pair of pliers, and rip it off bit by bit until I could knock the rest of the rivet through. The rivets spin too easily to just drill them out.

    If you donít mind destroying the strap you could probably save yourself some time and effort by cutting it away and hacksawing or Dremeling through the rivets. Thatís what I did with the cuff strap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burrito View Post
    I will say that it was tough to do without destroying the straps. For each one I ended up having to drill through the rivet, pry up the head with a screwdriver and a pair of pliers, and rip it off bit by bit until I could knock the rest of the rivet through. The rivets spin too easily to just drill them out.

    If you donít mind destroying the strap you could probably save yourself some time and effort by cutting it away and hacksawing or Dremeling through the rivets. Thatís what I did with the cuff strap.
    Thanks for the advice. I use a center punch on rivets -- tends to work much better than a drill. Haven't met a rivet I couldn't best yet!


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    I might prefer these w tour wrap inbounds over my Kryptons w/ power wraps


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    Quote Originally Posted by margotron View Post
    I might prefer these w tour wrap inbounds over my Kryptons w/ power wraps


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    Whatís your opinion on the Tour Wrap? Iím sure itís great inbounds. Is it flexible enough to really tour in? Iím pretty settled on replacing the crap stock liner, but Iím debating between the Tour Wrap and the Pro Tour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burrito View Post
    What’s your opinion on the Tour Wrap? I’m sure it’s great inbounds. Is it flexible enough to really tour in? I’m pretty settled on replacing the crap stock liner, but I’m debating between the Tour Wrap and the Pro Tour.
    I love the tour wrap. I'll admit is not stiff and bears little resemblance to the Power Wrap sold direct from intuition except that they are both wraps. I actually think the boot feels slightly less stiff with the Tour Wrap vs. the stock Air liner. It is super tourable, at least as tourable as the stock liner. Size wize match your boot size.

    I skied Lupos inbounds yesterday on 189 BGs w P18s in super weight idaho pow. No problem.

    I have handled the Pro Tour and I think the Tour Wrap is less stiff. I made my decision based on liking wraps over tongues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by margotron View Post
    I love the tour wrap. I'll admit is not stiff and bears little resemblance to the Power Wrap sold direct from intuition except that they are both wraps. I actually think the boot feels slightly less stiff with the Tour Wrap vs. the stock Air liner. It is super tourable, at least as tourable as the stock liner. Size wize match your boot size.

    I skied Lupos inbounds yesterday on 189 BGs w P18s in super weight idaho pow. No problem.

    I have handled the Pro Tour and I think the Tour Wrap is less stiff. I made my decision based on liking wraps over tongues.
    Thanks. Thatís all super good info. I much prefer wraps, too, so it sounds like thatís the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by margotron View Post
    I love the tour wrap. I'll admit is not stiff and bears little resemblance to the Power Wrap sold direct from intuition except that they are both wraps. I actually think the boot feels slightly less stiff with the Tour Wrap vs. the stock Air liner. It is super tourable, at least as tourable as the stock liner. Size wize match your boot size.

    I skied Lupos inbounds yesterday on 189 BGs w P18s in super weight idaho pow. No problem.

    I have handled the Pro Tour and I think the Tour Wrap is less stiff. I made my decision based on liking wraps over tongues.
    I also prefer wraps . I ditched the original tongue liner and pro tours I had and have been using one set of pro wraps in both my lupo and vulcan. Iím tempted to get a tour wrap but than I heard theyíre less volume than pro wraps. The tongue liners made my boots sloppy so I didnít want to risk that if the tour wraps were going to do the same. Did you feel any slip with the tour wrap? Maybe I should up size the pro wrap and that might take up more space?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grinch View Post
    I also prefer wraps . I ditched the original tongue liner and pro tours I had and have been using one set of pro wraps in both my lupo and vulcan. Iím tempted to get a tour wrap but than I heard theyíre less volume than pro wraps. The tongue liners made my boots sloppy so I didnít want to risk that if the tour wraps were going to do the same. Did you feel any slip with the tour wrap? Maybe I should up size the pro wrap and that might take up more space?
    No slip, good heel hold for me. But it's in a Dalby - if the ankle strap doesn't hold your heel then I don't know what.

    Way lower volume than both the AIR and power wrap. I'll say on the ankle, with the stock air, I was at 2 on the ankle, and now ski at 4 for equal tightness. So however much volume is 2 notches




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    Quote Originally Posted by margotron View Post
    No slip, good heel hold for me. But it's in a Dalby - if the ankle strap doesn't hold your heel then I don't know what.

    Way lower volume than both the AIR and power wrap. I'll say on the ankle, with the stock air, I was at 2 on the ankle, and now ski at 4 for equal tightness. So however much volume is 2 notches




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    Thanks. That helps . Thin ankles and low/medium instep so I found the power wrap tightened up both those spots over the tongue liners. I may have to contact intuition to see if I go up a size in the tour wrap and see if thatíll get it back to the volume of a pro wrap. I should do it ASAP. I saw someone selling a one size up tour wrap for a decent price with one day on it. Donít want to risk the purchase til Iím sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by grinch View Post
    Thanks. That helps . Thin ankles and low/medium instep so I found the power wrap tightened up both those spots over the tongue liners. I may have to contact intuition to see if I go up a size in the tour wrap and see if thatíll get it back to the volume of a pro wrap. I should do it ASAP. I saw someone selling a one size up tour wrap for a decent price with one day on it. Donít want to risk the purchase til Iím sure
    Not a bad idea. If itís really that much lower volume than the stock liner I might hold off until I can mess with one in person. My ankles are super low volume, and even though I donít like the feel of the stock liner it does fit pretty well.

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    Iíll procrastinate for a bit before I phone intuition but Iíll try and remember to post what they have to say

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    Well alright, i just picked up some used lupo carbons on ebay, Iím hoping i can make the 25 work. Twiddling will commence immediately, with adding a xl voile powers strap, maybe removing the first buckle and figuring out liners.
    Probably getting custom insoles soon, hoping to raise my arch and shorten my foot enough for a good fit.
    Has anybody tried protecting the carbon cuff from ski edges with anything? My vulcans are cracked where edges hit and Iíve been limping them along with g-flex epoxy.
    Grinch, Iíve got the same boot quiver as you now- tlt6ís, vulcans, and lupos.


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    Damn. Youíll dig those luooís . I sold my tlt6ís. Great boot but the vulcan without the tongue is close enough. I donít tour far in my lupo. Just off the ski hill . I donít think youíll have to worry about the cuff in the lupo(could be wrong) . Pretty sure itís thicker/burlier

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    Quote Originally Posted by riff View Post
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Has anybody tried protecting the carbon cuff from ski edges with anything? My vulcans are cracked where edges hit and Iíve been limping them along with g-flex epoxy.
    Grinch, Iíve got the same boot quiver as you now- tlt6ís, vulcans, and lupos.
    I got a few layers of Gorillatape on mine. Your question reminds me I need to put more on. I think gluing some kind of plastic on would be more efficient, but on the other hand I've not herd about any cuff breaking so far..


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