California is Burning (Again)

[bodywhomper]

Shit just got real...

Just got my home insurance bill, premium almost doubled from last year (same policy, no new claims). Guess I should be happy they didn't drop me.

That’s pretty wild! Are people loosing insurance in your area? There are two Nevada county focused fire insurance FB groups.

My next door neighbors were dropped this fall due to wildfire hazard. Their new premium thru the CA Fair Plan with wraparound coverage to fill the gaps is double their previous premium. They bought their house 7 or 8 years ago.

[teledad]

That’s pretty wild! Are people loosing insurance in your area?

I've heard of a few drops but mostly other rate hikes. Our house is 10 years old, built after the 2008 code changes with fireproof windows etc.. We keep our lot clear but Tahoe NF is literally across the street.

[old goat]

Isn’t Sierra summit near Fresno?!

And the answer is yes. They de-energized that transmission line.

He's talking about Donner Summit. Interesting because just over the hill in Truckee we were fine, because our juice comes from NV.

[hutash]

No change in our insurance, but at this point we only have half a house.

[Mokomahonah]

Bump.
Its smokey here in Tahoe. All the locals are getting what they asked for.

Here are some resources I use to ease boredom at work...
Federal fires: https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/ - This will also show fires that started as Calfire and went inter agency
Calfire: https://www.fire.ca.gov/incidents/ - This one used to be better, showing fire outlines but not anymore.
Smoke map and forecasting: https://www.airnow.gov/
NASA Satellite data: https://firms2.modaps.eosdis.nasa.go...19;@0.0,0.0,3z - This is a neat tool, I haven't quite completely figured out yet.
This is a cool one I found that shows the fire outside of Nevada City: https://nevcounty.maps.arcgis.com/ap...9dcc865349e72e
Anyone have any other good ones?

[old goat]

Monster fire complex north of vacaville and fairfiled--125K acres in 24 hours. It shows best in the map in this article
https://www.sacbee.com/news/californ...k=bignews_main
Briefly jumped 80 and forced the partial evacuation of Travis AFB. For some reason the Calfire map and report only indicates part of the fire.
The map in the Bee is from the NIFC site but I can't find it on the site.

[DJSapp]

Monster fire complex north of vacaville and fairfiled--125K acres in 24 hours. It shows best in the map in this article
https://www.sacbee.com/news/californ...k=bignews_main
Briefly jumped 80 and forced the partial evacuation of Travis AFB. For some reason the Calfire map and report only indicates part of the fire.
The map in the Bee is from the NIFC site but I can't find it on the site.

Yeah, that one got into something good and blew up today. I'm about 25 miles from it and everything is ashed over. Even got a couple whole leaves size of your palm drifting down from the sky, completely charred. Glad they beat it back across 80, that would be terrible to both Fairfield and Vacaville if it burned between them. Lots of residential there.

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[bodywhomper]

I believe that for if the one where IC ordered a bunch of ambulances early this morning. I haven’t heard the outcome.

[old goat]

Looks like the LNU complex is active in 5 counties--Lake, Sonoma, Solano, Yolo, and Napa. My question is, after the last few years, what's left to burn in Lake County? Seems like there have been massive fires there every year.

[char_]

I believe that for if the one where IC ordered a bunch of ambulances early this morning. I haven’t heard the outcome.

"Wednesday morning two strike teams of ambulances were mobilized in Fresno and Tulare counties in order to assist with the fires in Napa County. The two strike teams of five ambulances each will have a total of 10 paramedics and 10 EMTs with two paramedic supervisors. They were initially sent to Kaiser Permanente Medical Center in Vacaville. Edgar Escobedo, spokesman for American Ambulance, said their mission will be to respond and stand-by in the event of large-scale evacuations of medical facilities and to support emergency medical services and alternate care sites."

[DJSapp]

Looks like the LNU complex is active in 5 counties--Lake, Sonoma, Solano, Yolo, and Napa. My question is, after the last few years, what's left to burn in Lake County? Seems like there have been massive fires there every year.

Berryessa has seemingly burned every year for the last 5 years. Grass is resilient and manzanita seeds survive fire. Makes sense for these being hot and fast moving fires. The old oaks are fewer and further between now.

[bodywhomper]

"Wednesday morning two strike teams of ambulances were mobilized in Fresno and Tulare counties in order to assist with the fires in Napa County. The two strike teams of five ambulances each will have a total of 10 paramedics and 10 EMTs with two paramedic supervisors. They were initially sent to Kaiser Permanente Medical Center in Vacaville. Edgar Escobedo, spokesman for American Ambulance, said their mission will be to respond and stand-by in the event of large-scale evacuations of medical facilities and to support emergency medical services and alternate care sites."

Thx!

[~mikey b]

Big Basin State Park HQ burned

[Norseman]

[zartagen]

Cross post from the 2020 Wildfire thread:

[Lone Star]

Looks like the LNU complex is active in 5 counties--Lake, Sonoma, Solano, Yolo, and Napa. My question is, after the last few years, what's left to burn in Lake County? Seems like there have been massive fires there every year.

I did post fire research in the Sierra Nevada for a handful of summers and observed montane chaparral-- whitethorn, deerbrush, and tobaccobrush in particular-- grow back to 5 ft + height in five years or less. 1st summer postfire easy travel, 2nd summer starting to get thick, 3rd summer and it's a heinous struggle. They thrive on fire and fire thrives on them.

Neat fact on those species (manzanita too): They can burn down to little stubs and still resprout from the roots. Their seeds don't become viable unless they are exposed to temperatures which would kill the roots. (150+ or something like that). They have been known to grow from seed that has been in the seed bank for over 100 years and quite possibly around 300-500 years.

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

Manzanita survives by burning its neighbors to death.

[Meadow Skipper]

Busy.


glad I’m not there

[Toadman]

Gee, might need to reconsider my Sonoma County trip next month. Really feel for those displaced by these fires.

[SirVicSmasher]

Smoke over Carmel beach

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[east or bust]

Holy fuck we are completely smoked out in east/central ID. It’s bad

[Ottime]

Ash falling the past two days in Santa Cruz. North county evacuated. Smoke is thick. Considering a road trip as school was cancelled for the month.

[old goat]

Don't come here. It's even worse. (Just kidding--cleared up a fair bit this afternoon, enough for me to do a short bike ride. Can see a few stars tonight. Looks like they're getting a handle on the Loyalton fire which is where our smoke is from, but there's enough burning that I'm sure we'll have some smoke for a couple of months.)

[Ottime]

I was looking at places to stay for a few days near Ukiah. There are some bike trails nearby. My wife needs to teach remotely for her school, and I have meal distribution next Monday from my school, but if we have wifi we can be any where and not worry about the kid staying focussed. Oddly, my school is a 1/3 mile from he evacuated line, so who knows if I can be thee Monday to do distribution.

If we went toward you, we would actually be hitting up our friends place in Kirkwood. No wifi there, so wife can escape there next week.

[LeeC]

Never mind...
Twas only a vid.
Didn't mean to wrinkle panties.