Home Remodel: Do, Don'ts, Advice

[XXX-er]

My GF has all that pro grade shit cuz her husband was a carpenter doing post n beam, its nice to go over fixing something and you know she has all the tools

[RootSkier]

You're wrong! Very wrong!

I agree with Tuco. All high-end paint-grade trim is painted (sprayed) after installation, unless your builder is a hack, or unless it is a very small portion of the whole house. This is the only way to get perfect results and ensure there are no gaps between the trim and wall, etc. Totally different than stain-grade trim.

[dunfree]

Home depot sells a Stanley miter box with saw for $39 that looks like it will do as good a job on trim as a power miter saw depending on the skill of the operator. Carpenters were doing excellent trim work long before there were power miter saws. That's assuming there's no wobble in the setup. And it looks like it's a mail order item.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Stanley-...-800/100197650

Amazon carries one for 49 bucks
https://www.amazon.com/CRAFTSMAN-Mit...s%2C255&sr=8-4

carpenters weren’t dragging Langdon acme mitre boxes to the work site - and more importantly, it’s harder to recut.

[tuco]

I agree with Tuco. All high-end paint-grade trim is painted (sprayed) after installation, unless your builder is a hack, or unless it is a very small portion of the whole house. This is the only way to get perfect results and ensure there are no gaps between the trim and wall, etc. Totally different than stain-grade trim.

Stain grade after install as well.

[Timberridge]

On the trim front…

I need to do a small amount of trim, but not enough to justify a miter saw.

Is there a miter jig that is actually worth getting to cut trim that is accurate with angles beyond the typical 45 and 90 you get with a cheapo miter box?

You have a table saw, portable or otherwise?
Google table saw miter jigs. I have the Incra and I haven't used a dedicated miter saw in years.

[old_newguy]

You have a table saw, portable or otherwise?
Google table saw miter jigs. I have the Incra and I haven't used a dedicated miter saw in years.

No.

I’m thinking of getting a track for my existing skil saw or buying a track saw. Depends on what projects I get into.

Borrowing or renting is great if I had a bigger project, I’m just doing a few odds and ends here and there as the come up so looking for an alternative. I’m not trimming out a house.

I used to have the whole works: 10” compound miter and stand. It was nice, but overkill for what I’m doing these days.

[old_newguy]

@ old_newguy, I have a decent miter saw (DeWalt DW 716) and a fancy finish blade you're welcome to borrow, but you have to drive out to SE PDX to pick it up.

You are very generous. I’ll let you know!

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

No.

I’m thinking of getting a track for my existing skil saw or buying a track saw. Depends on what projects I get into.

Borrowing or renting is great if I had a bigger project, I’m just doing a few odds and ends here and there as the come up so looking for an alternative. I’m not trimming out a house.

I used to have the whole works: 10” compound miter and stand. It was nice, but overkill for what I’m doing these days.

Hit the pawn shops for one of those old skool 10" makita chop saws. If you don't need compound, pull miters and that shit, they're awesome. They're small, lock solid with no slop and they're usually pretty cheap because everyone needs 12" super pull double compound with laser light show and cup holder.

[tuco]

Stain grade after install as well.

Here's is an exception. 6" red oak t&g. Oak will be bleached, stained, and cleared before install.
It's going on the ceiling above the stack and in this picture.. And just in case you didn't think carpenter's don't laser shit plumb, level and square that's what those shims on the osb sheeted ceiling are for.

[Timberridge]

Wait. They're putting a floor on the ceiling? What are they flooring with, 1/2" sheetrock?

[tuco]

Yeah, they're putting flooring on the ceiling
Time for another lap?
Edit: yeah, sorry,I see, fuckin don't know how to change that

[neufox47]

Maybe this belongs in the wildfire thread but my attic has two types of vents, small hole vents with metal screens in the soffit and large gable ventswith screens.



Should these vents be fire hardened any more or just make sure all the screens are there?

I also just had the roof replaced and they put in a ridge vent all the way where before there was none, so we added ventilation.

[old_newguy]

https://www.nfpa.org/-/media/Files/F...ces.ashx?la=en

I’d consult with my local fire department. They probably have someone who can do an entire assessment on your property if you are worried about wildfire hazard.

At least you have vents. I’m trying to figure out what to do with my completely unvented attic. Near as I can tell it is built so loose it just works, but I’d like to tighten it up from a pest perspective.

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

https://firesafemarin.org/harden-you...sistant-vents/

You should look at boxing those eaves in too.

[::: :::]

Maybe this belongs in the wildfire thread but my attic has two types of vents, small hole vents with metal screens in the soffit and large gable ventswith screens.



Should these vents be fire hardened any more or just make sure all the screens are there?

I also just had the roof replaced and they put in a ridge vent all the way where before there was none, so we added ventilation.

beyond tighter metal mesh, there isn't much that you can do reasonably.

check with your locale for the intake/exhaust quantities, you want to not have more exhaust than intake because it will negatively pressure your house and waste a ton of energy.

if you were renovating the place, you might consider eliminating the attic as unconditioned space by insulating it & closing up all the attic vents.
it would offer a tighter thermal envelope to help with energy consumption

[sirbumpsalot]

Here's is an exception. 6" red oak t&g. Oak will be bleached, stained, and cleared before install.
It's going on the ceiling above the stack and in this picture.. And just in case you didn't think carpenter's don't laser shit plumb, level and square that's what those shims on the osb sheeted ceiling are for.

Post some after photos....that will look nice.

[tuco]

beyond tighter metal mesh, there isn't much that you can do reasonably.

check with your locale for the intake/exhaust quantities, you want to not have more exhaust than intake because it will negatively pressure your house and waste a ton of energy.

if you were renovating the place, you might consider eliminating the attic as unconditioned space by insulating it & closing up all the attic vents.
it would offer a tighter thermal envelope to help with energy consumption

Pairing ridge venting w/ gable vents is a no no.
It creates a cross flow scenario
No?

[tuco]

Post some after photos....that will look nice.

Will do

[::: :::]

Pairing ridge venting w/ gable vents I believe is a no no.
No?

attic venting in general is a compromise situation that has little upside
it doesn't really do what people think it does

gable + ridge just kinda clouds it up further

[tuco]

attic venting in general is a compromise situation that has little upside
it doesn't really do what people think it does

gable + ridge just kinda clouds it up further

Idk. Brother and I had to rebuild the roof @ our parents where a pitched roof was put on top of a flat roof(yep , some stupid fuck framed a flat roof house in cottonwood heights) w) mansard w/ 0 ventilation. Trusses were fuckin cooked.

[tuco]

Idk. Brother and I had to rebuild the roof @ our parents where a pitched roof was put on top of a flat roof w) mansard w/ 0 ventilation. Trusses were fuckin cooked.

This was 20 years ago. Now thinking about it, they had sheeted the roof deck with plywood and they were so cooked the veneers delammed. 0 structural integrity at that point.
I believe in venting the attic space

[old goat]

My GF has all that pro grade shit cuz her husband was a carpenter doing post n beam, its nice to go over fixing something and you know she has all the tools

Why doesn't she get the husband to do the fixing while you two have sex?

carpenters weren’t dragging Langdon acme mitre boxes to the work site - and more importantly, it’s harder to recut.

So cut it right the first time. (It's not the tool I would use. I have a miter saw.

[dunfree]

Shit can get hot but that sounds more like a glue failure from mfg than a cooking problem. That stuff should take a boil, sometimes things duck up.

old goat - sure. If a beginner is asking for advice “get it right to 1/32” the first time ain’t usually useful

[tuco]

Shit can get hot but that sounds more like a glue failure from mfg than a cooking problem.

Nope(maybe?) Too dry and hot in attic cooked the shit.
Framing members were so dry, light and fragile, Blizzard could a milled R11 cores from them

[::: :::]

I believe in venting the attic space

Better strategy is to insulate the roof from the outside & make the attic part of the conditioned space.
Better envelope
better energy use

vented attics are a remnant of an age when we didn't insulate
they are a compromise situation that allows us to spend less on the envelope, but not to our benefit
if they weren't in the prescriptive code, building science & subsequent codes would get rid of them

i think they will eventually be eliminated in almost all climate zones