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Thread: Home Remodel: Do, Don'ts, Advice
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06-23-2022, 09:25 AM #6926Registered User
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since it's so easy an IT guy can do it let me break down the simple middle school math for all you people thinking everything should be cheep
6 guys at 5 days labor 8 hr days (minimum)
no one is making less than $25.00 an hr if they are insured and legit employees add $10.00 an hr to the 25.00
overtime paid time off paid holidays bonuses and other perks (they are not just for white guys pecking at a keyboard, the trades should have bennies too, but no one wants to pay for those)
that runs $8,400.00 in labor costs (that's bottom dollar probably much higher)
quality paint will run close to $2,000.00 for the project
ladders brushes masking cleaning materials clothing ppp gear sprayers add another $1000.00
shop, storage space, office space $
supervision office staff $
length of time in business? 10 years? 20 years?
I sure as fuck don't wake up to break even or loose money
I'm looking to make a profit
or hire the cheap guy with a truck some free time away from the internet their drugs and alcohol use who gits er done and only needs a little bit of money to pay the rent and buy a twelve pack for after work
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06-23-2022, 09:38 AM #6927
& it’s high painting season
so good outfits are likely booked out too
I’d say if you are confident about their experience & level of care & you’re able to cover the cost, pull the trigger. Def hold their feet to the fire of a quality job for that kind of dough. You can bet the Queen Anne crowd are a bunch of annoying nitpickers asking for the moon. So, when they charge premium for that locale, they need to deliver premium service not just annoyance up charges.
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06-23-2022, 09:49 AM #6928
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06-23-2022, 10:46 AM #6929
This sounds like the most likely situation. Just ballpark the cost, know the range for the quality of workmanship.
Cost should equate to Quality, yes?
That's not a hard rule though, and there's the rub.
Fred's numbers seem to come in well below your initial bid. Maybe he's down for a roadtrip out of Breck.
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06-23-2022, 11:17 AM #6930
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06-23-2022, 12:12 PM #6931
Fixed.
Sent from my iPhone using TGR ForumsHowever many are in a shit ton.
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06-25-2022, 03:29 PM #6932
Something about Eaves
I'm building a shed with a shed roof, it's only 10'x12'.
I'm a compl333t n00b, never done this shit before.
The framing looks something like this, except I have more or less conventional 2x6 stud walls all around.
I have 9 16' 2x10s for the roof rafters, so I can put them at 16" intervals.
Yes, it's over engineered, since the span is 12'.
I'm having a problem with the eave overhang. These 16 footers don't seem to be long enough. The roof is 4/12, so the overhang is only about 10" along the downslope eave and only about 16" on the upslope eave.
This seems inadequate.
Thoughts?
I'm reluctant to marry on some extenders. But getting 18' 2x10s right now is a pipe dream.Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
>>>200 cm Black Bamboo Sidewalled DPS Lotus 120 : Best Skis Ever <<<
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06-25-2022, 04:14 PM #6933
Way overbuilt unless you have huge snow loads. Span table says you can use 2x6 or 2x8 for that span and spacing
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06-25-2022, 04:31 PM #6934
We do get 30 inches of snow randomly here that can hang around for a month.
I already have the 16' 2x10s.
And I'm not asking about that. So, thanks, but can you address the overhang eave question?
In the picture above, upslope is to your left, downslope is to your right.
So I've got about 10" overhang on the downslope right and about 23" of overhang on the upslope left.Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
>>>200 cm Black Bamboo Sidewalled DPS Lotus 120 : Best Skis Ever <<<
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06-25-2022, 04:34 PM #6935
In lieu of a cantilevered extended eave in front, consider a “colonnade” in the front for a covered area that gives you flex space in front of the storage. You can use short framing for that span instead of buying longer single members.
(Likely 2x10 is right if you want to cantilever a few feet at the front eave. You can also sister a shorter member with a backspan that is 2x the cantilever length)
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06-25-2022, 04:36 PM #6936
I hope a colonnade isn't a drink.
wtf is a colonnade. Seems like a marching formation.
Sistering a shorter member might lead to marital strife.
(edit)
sorry, couldn't help myself.
Problem is each eve is at least 16' off the ground.Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
>>>200 cm Black Bamboo Sidewalled DPS Lotus 120 : Best Skis Ever <<<
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06-25-2022, 04:43 PM #6937
Why do you think you need more overhang--appearance or is there a practical reason? I would tend to have the same overhang on both ends, for appearance sake.
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06-25-2022, 04:46 PM #6938
I suggest a colonnade-oscopy
Keep the poop chute clean
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06-25-2022, 04:48 PM #6939
That's understandable until you meet me. Then you'd know I don't care much for appearance.
If ::: ::: suggests the sistering, I may do that to get more overhang.
We get around 80 inches of rain per year here, kind of the Cascade foothills.
ThanksMerde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
>>>200 cm Black Bamboo Sidewalled DPS Lotus 120 : Best Skis Ever <<<
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06-25-2022, 04:51 PM #6940
Home Remodel: Do, Don'ts, Advice
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06-25-2022, 04:59 PM #6941Registered User
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You get the idea.
Couldn't get the angle right in the narrow screenshot
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06-25-2022, 05:03 PM #6942
Home Remodel: Do, Don'ts, Advice
^^^ We have a 2-stall pony barn that is the wood shed / landscape tool shed
The extra bay is great in the winter for staging wood in the wheel barrow to come to the house
Also, note the roof line doesn’t have to keep going up with the shorter framing bay
Only reason I suggest the extra bay is that the cantilever isn’t going to offer much shelter unless it gets big, esp as it gets higher
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06-25-2022, 05:50 PM #6943
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06-25-2022, 05:53 PM #6944
I thought of trying to get counsel on Ionic, Doric or some snazzier Corinthian from you, but the drink joke got in the way.
My bad.
In my case, the roofline is high, like 16' off the ground in front and 12' in back. So, despite the attraction of a Greek Temple, I think I'll take the sistering advice and add 16" to the front and back.Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
>>>200 cm Black Bamboo Sidewalled DPS Lotus 120 : Best Skis Ever <<<
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06-25-2022, 05:54 PM #6945
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06-25-2022, 05:57 PM #6946
Got that covered.
Despite the small footprint of 10'x12' (you'll have to do your own hectare conversions metricists), we've got a gutter and water tank queued up to be used for summer watering.
Plus we're in the middle of 5+ acres, surrounded by tall trees and gentle slopes.Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
>>>200 cm Black Bamboo Sidewalled DPS Lotus 120 : Best Skis Ever <<<
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06-25-2022, 06:11 PM #6947
Home Remodel: Do, Don'ts, Advice
16’ high w/ a 23” + 16” eave isn’t offering much overhang for weather protection, esp with the rising slope
(if I’m understanding the eave dim appropriately)
The 12’ side is doing it better from both the slope & the height/eave proportion, but i wonder if that side is worth doing?
(roof prolly a little steep, but you get the idea at scale)
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06-25-2022, 06:33 PM #6948
Advice comes with free hooker.
Well maybe I'm the faggot America
I'm not a part of a redneck agenda
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06-25-2022, 06:34 PM #6949
Whole project is a ruse to cover up the bodies
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06-25-2022, 06:47 PM #6950
Built 'er tall to stack 'em higher
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