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Thread: Home Remodel: Do, Don'ts, Advice
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07-25-2021, 09:09 AM #4301
My wife is a master tiler, has done travertine as well as slate.
But we do the old school methods and new ones have been introduced.
Don't know shit about SimpleMat.
If you're looking for shortcuts, my opinion is that you're on the wrong track. Expect work.
Make sure the plywood underneath is screwed down. We do a complete sealer across the room, right up to the walls. It's a paint on black goo sealer, I can't remember the brand names.
Then we screw in a backerboard like cement board. Make sure it's fitted tight.
My understanding is that there are now interlocking rigid underlayers that float and are not screwed down, but we have never used those.
The point is that you want a rigid underlayer so the tile and grout doesn't crack from flexing.
Decide on a pattern for the tile, lay it out before your start tiling.
Also, try mixing the tile mortar before you're going to tile to get the consistency right.
The (sl)easy way to do it to trowel the mortar down then lay the tile on top. Spacers are frowned upon for the grout lines by pros, but use them if you're inexperienced.
If you want bomber tile, back butter each tile. It's a pain, but the result is solid.
What's important to watch is not only a consistency of grout lines, but also the height of each tile. It's really easy to fuck that up and have an uneven surface result.
Clean any excess mortar right away.
Once done with laying, let it rest a day, then swab it with tile sealer, particularly if the tile has a rough surface like slate or natural stone.
Next, get grout, choose a grout color and mix it up.
You smear that stuff over the floor with a float and push it in between the tiles.
Once you're done grouting an area, wash it over and over 3 times at least with a sponge to get up the extra grout. That's harder with slate since it's rougher surface, marble and glass are easier to clean up.Last edited by Buster Highmen; 07-25-2021 at 03:59 PM.
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07-25-2021, 09:12 AM #4302one of those sickos
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07-25-2021, 09:18 AM #4303Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
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07-25-2021, 09:24 AM #4304
Winning answer.
Once the pump stops, it will read cutoff pressure even with a broken bladder. By draining the tank first, you will get a reading of the bladder pressure.
Also, another way is to depress the schrader valve with the bladder pressurized. If you get water coming out, it’s toast.. . .
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07-25-2021, 02:38 PM #4305User
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Ok so the pump short cycled 5-6 times an hour with no water running. So I turned off the pump, drained the pressure tank as much as I could just from running the faucet and then measured psi. I only got 10 psi.
So with the short cycles and the low pressure it sounds like a bad pressure tank right?
Next question, I’m leaving for the week and can’t address till next weekend. Should I just flip the breakers on the pump? Any reason not to?
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07-25-2021, 02:43 PM #4306
You can take a bike pump and top off the bladder. Might buy some time. But usually when they fail, the get flooded with water.
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07-25-2021, 02:43 PM #4307
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07-25-2021, 02:47 PM #4308
With no water running. The pump shouldn’t cycle even if the pressure tank is blown.
That’s more like a backflow valve not working.
You might need both.. . .
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07-25-2021, 03:25 PM #4309Registered User
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I got pretty much those big slate tiles in my entry/ kitchen/ bathroom floor even on the tube walls AND its prefect cuz its the color of dirt if you don't get around with the broom too much
at some point they were getting pretty dull/ dirty/ weathered looking so I scrubbed em down and put this stuff on, it sez wet look but its not really a very wet looking finish on slate tile which naturaly are a mat finish
I liked the look and it protects the tile, its been about 5 yrs and its probably time to do it again
I https://www.homaxproducts.com/sundri...re-seal-gallon
maybe 14yrs old my grout has lasted pretty good and not cracked out but there are a few high wear places that might need a touch upLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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07-25-2021, 03:42 PM #4312
So I guess it's not a constant pressure controller? (Shrug)
If it's cycling without any water running you've got another issue. Good luck.
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07-25-2021, 05:40 PM #4314Registered User
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So you wana seal it BEFORE grouting ?
I sealed an existing floor that was probably 8 yrs old it would get dirty/ rough looking and not look any better after mopping
The sealer made it look nice I was worried it might look too shinny but I thot it turned out pretty good and I'm keen to redo itLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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07-25-2021, 06:09 PM #4315
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07-25-2021, 06:47 PM #4316
ANY natural stone tile should be sealed before laying. If it isn't sealed before setting, thinset that gets on the surface can bond to it and it is a bitch to remove. The grout will also want to fuck with you and cause you to spend hours cleaning the slate the next day.
I still remember the first slate entry I laid 26 years ago that I didn't know needed sealing and the hours of scrubbing with vinegar to get it clean.
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07-25-2021, 07:38 PM #4317
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07-25-2021, 08:12 PM #4319one of those sickos
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This. Pulling a pump isn't for the faint of heart unless it's only like 50 feet down. Even then, if you drop it you're mega, mega fucked.
Wells are all fine and dandy (no water bill) until they give you trouble.
Just flip the breaker while you're gone and deal with it later.ride bikes, climb, ski, travel, cook, work to fund former, repeat.
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07-25-2021, 08:22 PM #4320
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07-25-2021, 08:25 PM #4321Registered User
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I gotcha
my slate looks pretty good so the guy who did it must have been a pro and sealed before grouting
but the refresh was nice and it could do wiht another refresh
IME don't get that sealer on anything you don't want it on ferinstance the bathtub, a bit of a cleaning job and it did come off but it would have been better to cover the tub off with plasticLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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07-25-2021, 08:32 PM #4322User
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This all sounds awesome. Thanks for the quick help on this.
Google says that it's possible for a bad pressure tank to cause short cycling of a pump, even with no water running, due it trying to build pressure so often?
Anyway, maybe I should call the pro in right away before I worsen the situation.
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