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Thread: Home Remodel: Do, Don'ts, Advice
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04-08-2020, 05:39 AM #1851Banned
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So they are asking you to put holes in the slab down 3ft for footings? Doesn't seem too bad. Get a concrete boring bit and an auger to dig hole, drop in the sonotube and fill. Likely for freeze heaves. How thick is the slab? 4"?
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04-08-2020, 07:28 AM #1852
Likely a frost line requirement. Freeze/thaw cycle can move/crack your work.
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04-08-2020, 08:19 AM #1853
I thickened slab to 12 inches at edges with rebar. Been through one normal winter no cracking. I have non frost susceptible soils. I would think a 36" deep footing would not be necessary everywhere. How do they deal with building on bedrock?
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04-08-2020, 08:42 AM #1854one of those sickos
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You can argue with code and engineering requirements all you want, but you won't win. IME building depts become less reasonable the more you push back.
Oh, and when we excavate hit rocks larger than 36" we pin to them with epoxy and use them as footers. When they are smaller we must remove them.
As others noted, you can likely get away with building the thing without permits, but you might run into problems down the road. What you will absolutely not be able to do is obtain a permit to do work that is not up to code.
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04-08-2020, 08:44 AM #1855
Home Remodel: Do, Don'ts, Advice
I’d defer to a SE on that, but frost heave is real
(bedrock should be stable but the connection may be of concern if close to the surface as water could get in the interstitial space)
The calculus is yours — how pissed will you be if it gets warped later after all the work to put it in place
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04-08-2020, 09:49 AM #1856
I got a thickened edge slab pushed through the building Dept a couple years ago. It was a pain through. They didn’t want to approve it but I kept referencing the IBC which my city has adopted. I had to follow the guidelines for a ‘frost protected shallow foundation’ to a tee and the inspectors were all over it. It was the only feasible way for me to build on my lot due to water table issues. Haven’t had a single crack on any of the concrete besides one on an exterior slab that was just a standard pour and not insulated. The native soils on my site were garbage, expansive clay. I’m happy I stuck to my guns on the mono as it has worked out great and was fairly quick to form and pour. If you had insulated under your slab and documented it, perhaps your building dept would allow you to move forward but it’s highly unlikely now.
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04-09-2020, 09:22 AM #1857Banned
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Like said you remove it or connect to it. My entire lot has shale. What a bitch digging the footers for the deck. Had to be done though.
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04-09-2020, 09:38 PM #1858
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04-16-2020, 12:25 PM #1859User
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Question about new to me concrete counter tops: They have a shiny, almost sticky finish on them. But after 2 months of cooking and cleaning, the shiny-ness has wiped off to a flat finish, when scrubbed hard it kind of balls up and comes off. I ordered this, https://store.concreteexchange.com/c...countertop-wax , since it was highly recommended, but it's not the same finish, more flat so doesn't blend. Any ideas how I can fix the often cleaned spots?
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04-16-2020, 12:53 PM #1860Banned
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You could go back to them and say that you've nixed the sunroom idea and it's purely a patio slab that won't have a structure built on it. It's not impossible, but I would be surprised if you need 3 foot deep footings for a non-structural slab.
At that point, you may not even need a permit. For example, my jurisdiction doesn't require a permit for non-structural slabs if they're smaller than 2000 square feet and not in the floodplain.
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04-16-2020, 01:03 PM #1861
someone talk me out of (or into) a basement bouldering wall. not as big a climber as I used to be but still like to dabble and wife and 2 kids (8 and 10) into it somewhat as well and wouldn't mind a little project that has no deadline. wife not exactly thrilled by the idea but think I have her blessing. biggest issue (for her) is that it's a finished basement. I've already started the planning but can't quite pull the trigger...
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04-16-2020, 01:24 PM #1862
*Obligatory Star Wars "It's a trap!" Meme*
I considered it a while back. It was going to be expensive and unless your basement has exceptionally high ceilings it has to be really steep, which means it sticks way out into the room. A hangboard is a cheap and easy compromise that avoids marital strife.
That said, you should definitely do it.
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04-16-2020, 01:30 PM #1863one of those sickos
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How old are the tops in total? They prob put on too much sealer. It could also be a coating type rather than an absorbing type, and it's now failing. You can try to get after it with something really harsh like lacquer thinner, but once cured they tend to be pretty resistant to solvents.
The ultimate solution is to grind it back down to a fresh surface and start over. The short lifespan of topical sealers is the reason I use the soak in kind on the tops I pour.
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04-16-2020, 01:57 PM #1864User
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I'd have guess on age. I'd say less than 3 years, maybe less than 2? I mean, I scrubbed this dry spot in less than 2 months of cleaning it though. I thought I was scrubbing off some dough from where my wife rolled tortillas but I think I was actually into this sealer.
So any attempts to apply something and buff it in to match are probably going to fail? Any other band aid fixes? I don't really want to grind and refinish all of the countertops right now, but also don't want to leave it unprotected and end up with a bunch of stains.
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04-16-2020, 02:36 PM #1865
Any chance you can find out who built/installed them to try to figure out what they used?
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04-16-2020, 02:40 PM #1866
yea ceilings only 8' or so. would prob have to be more traversing type problems. would do about a 20 degree slope on 2/3 of the wall. have room to traverse a hallway ceiling to another wall to make it more interesting down the road. i'd do a hangboard for myself if I don't do it but that won't really excite the kids.
i'll be sure to tell the mrs you gave it the ok
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04-16-2020, 02:43 PM #1867someone talk me out of (or into) a basement bouldering wall.Well maybe I'm the faggot America
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04-16-2020, 03:13 PM #1868Banned
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04-16-2020, 03:32 PM #1870“The best argument in favour of a 90% tax rate on the rich is a five-minute chat with the average rich person.”
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04-16-2020, 08:04 PM #1871
This is the plan for sure. 2x spacer for vertical portion. Sloped part would obviously have its own frame.
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04-16-2020, 08:36 PM #1872
I would wet sand it, starting with a fairly aggressive grit to remove the sealer. Work your way up to 2000 grit, and then finish with whatever oil they recommend for concrete. I bet it would look amazing. Also, I am a bit of a masochist, so I would love this project. That said, it will be a ton of work and it would have to be done pretty quickly to avoid the ire of the wife, which is the most important part of any project.
Edit- I got curious and looked into it. The best tutorial I found said that using a topical sealer on anything polished further than 200 grit will fail. He recommended polishing to 1500 wet, and then dry with 1500- 3000 grit. No need for sealer after that level of polish, at least that is what they said. They also mentioned tung oil being used.
Good luck.
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04-16-2020, 09:10 PM #1873one of those sickos
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IME going beyond 400 yeilds rapidly diminishing returns on that type of concrete. (Regular bagged mix, ground to show aggregate. I and some clients love it.) It just doesn't have the hardness necessary to polish to 1000 or above. Some of the formed upside down guys are using fancier mixes that can be polished much more finely.
You'll likely have to start with 100 to make any kind of reasonable progress. I do it dry with a variable speed grinder and diamond pads--but I have a very effective shroud and a fancy HEPA dust collector. Wet will give you quicker results, but it's not practical to do inside of a finished home. If warthog is talking about doing it by hand, he must really be a glutton for punishment.
Penetrating sealers are durable and easier to reapply. I usually use the mid grade enhancing sealer from my stone supply shop. ($60/pint may seem expensive but it goes a long way.) Either way, at this point, you likely have to start over. Topical sealers, like varnish or catalyzed lacquer, can't really be repaired without leaving a visible edge.
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