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Thread: Home Remodel: Do, Don'ts, Advice
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11-08-2018, 08:53 AM #826Registered User
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Crazy, I just learned about this wedi board yesterday and we are going to use it to remodel a few industrial high moisture rooms at work. Guy who is doing the work does a ton of high end homes in the Vail valley and said he's been using this stuff exclusively for a while and loves it.
Additional question that is real estate related as well. Would it be stupid to completely rip out a tub and install a walk in shower stall, eliminating the only bath tub from the unit? I've been told that people want at least one bathtub for kids and such. This is an investment/rental condo that we will be remodeling to update over time and I'd really like to get rid of the tub but not if it'll reduce value down the road.
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11-08-2018, 08:53 AM #827
We're getting some mildew build up in our bathroom. Are there any good mildew-resistant paints out there? Any other good tips for fighting it?
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11-08-2018, 08:58 AM #828
Does the place have a walk in shower as well or just the tub shower?
The tub is really an infant to walking age thing for most people. Once kids can stand up a shower is so much easier. Though mom and dad get more wet, until kids can soap themselves."timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang
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11-08-2018, 09:09 AM #829Registered User
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11-08-2018, 09:11 AM #830Registered User
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11-08-2018, 09:28 AM #831Screw the net, Surf the backcountry!
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11-08-2018, 09:41 AM #834Registered User
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11-08-2018, 10:03 AM #835
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11-08-2018, 10:04 AM #836
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11-08-2018, 10:15 AM #837
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11-08-2018, 11:01 AM #838
That could take an hr to fill up with the shower head?
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11-08-2018, 11:56 AM #839Registered User
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Still not a bad idea.
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11-08-2018, 12:02 PM #841
I purposely removed the tubs for showers in my rentals. Discourages the breeders and their get from bugging me. Thinking of doing the same in my home now that the jets died in the tub and it is about 25 years old in there.
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11-08-2018, 12:06 PM #842
You should remove the grout in the corner and replace it with matching silicone caulk. That is what is supposed to be used on inside corners anyway.
Who was the contractor? I'm in your area. Good contractors will honor a warranty over the Colorado required warranty of 1 year, if you have a good relationship and you ask nice. It's a pretty easy fix if you have the tools and know how.
If it's a group I know and work with I'll help guilt them into it....
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11-08-2018, 12:07 PM #843
That Wedi shower system looks like the shit, but $1400? Goddamn!
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11-08-2018, 12:25 PM #844
wedi or kerdi are pretty much all i see now
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11-08-2018, 01:25 PM #845
So far I have the following answers
Which seem a bit all over the map (I assume fred's spray foam suggestion was bullshit). Do I need to remove the existing grout? Just slap more grout on (and try to fill the crack)? Not use grout, use something else, silicone (and if so, applied as is or remove existing grout)?
Beece, as for the contractor, it's a long story (perhaps I shared it in here, dunno), but I have no desire to contact him (short story is he made a big fuck up that he never told us about, and led to a sewer backup in our home and an insurance claim, but he ghosted us before we figured out that he was responsible, so we never paid him the holdback from the contract, which conveniently was the same as our insurance deductible, so I just let the whole thing go). If you really are curious to know his name I can PM, no need for me to post it. And if you know a local guy who can do it for a reasonable fee, let me know (I can certainly fill the crack, but if removing grout is part of the program, I want none of that)."fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
"She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
"everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy
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11-08-2018, 01:33 PM #846
I recommend don't remove the grout yet unless it's falling out on its own. Buy a tube of sanded caulk matching the grout color and fill the gaps. If you match it correctly you won't even be able to tell difference. Unless you look at it thru a magnifying glass.
Get some painters tape and cover both sides of the grout gap and then apply caulk to get a nice crisp line and match the gap.
If it opens up again or gets bigger you may need to remove the grout."timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang
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11-08-2018, 01:45 PM #847
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11-08-2018, 02:26 PM #848
Here's the deal:
A wood frame wall will always move a bit. Showers vary the temperature and moisture inside the walls, and that creates a bit of movement. With the exception of Fusion grout (always use this, by the way, despite the higher price), grout really can't move much without cracking. Therefore any movement will telegraph into a crack.
If it's built right this doesn't matter much. Redguard or another painted substrate will create a waterproof drainage layer behind the tile, so even if water gets behind it'll drain down the waterproof layer and out onto the shower pan. However, not everyone builds that way (some folks are old school), and if the movement is big enough even the redguard layer could crack/fail.
I've grouted corners of some showers, because it looks better than caulk, and hoped they wouldn't crack. Almost all have. I wont' do that anymore. The International Tile Council (or whatever the hell they call themselves now) recommend no grout in corners - caulk only. The caulk can move and therefore wont' crack unless movement starts to get really big.
As for your shower, if you don't have a good waterproofing layer behind you may be ok anyway, as Colorado tends to be really dry, and your walls may dry out just from relative humidity differences. However, don't risk it. You'd be amazed at how much water gets in that little crack.
You have several options for fixing it:
Buy some clear silicone caulk. Seal up the crack. It'll work great, but won't look good and has a tendency to peel over time since there isn't enough width for it to really get inside. Likely a good fix, but only short term.
Get some non-sanded grout to match and do your best to fill the crack. If you are really, really careful you might get it pretty well filled. However, new grout does not bond well to old grout, and you could see leakage between the two due to capillary action. Also, if it cracked in 18 months you are very likely to see cracking again soon.l
Rip out the old grout and put caulk in the corner. The correct fix, but it's a pain in the ass. Has to be done with a dremmel tool or something similar. Causes a fine dust to get every-fucking-where. But it'll fix it for the life of the shower.
Paint the whole shower with redguard. negatives: looks like you have a shower out of a Halloween slasher movie, your wife will hate it and you, and it will freak out your kids. positives:looks like you have a shower out of a Halloween slasher movie, your wife will hate it and you, and it will freak out your kids.
Regarding who can do the work: I mostly have connections with larger groups, so I'm not sure who to recommend for a small fix like this. you could try Cook tile or Cook kitchens or something like that out of Longmont (I think Longmont). They do very good work.
Hope this helps. Ask if you need more.
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11-08-2018, 02:31 PM #849
It had nothing to do with this tile work, though of course it does reflect on his overall ethic. He seemed to be a standup and professional guy otherwise, and this job was permitted, FWIW.
It's a crazy long story, but the slightly less short version from the one previously shared is that we had a sewer backup, called a rooter company, they determined it was inside the house and not the main line, they scoped it and recommended some crazy expensive repair (they were total scam artists), we got a second opinion/scope and saw some some weird obstruction in the main stack inside the house. We had been sharing all this info with the contractor, even asked him for a plumber recommendation! He was done with the job at that point, had just finished, but we were considering having him do the kitchen remodel. Anyhow, we get a second rooter guy who claims he fixed it, nope, another backup and video inspection again, still there, decide we have to cut out/replace a piece of the main stack pipe (about a 3' section?), get a plumber to do that and this plumber discovers a 12" section of copper pipe (maybe 4" diameter, don't recall) inside the stack. It certainly was new to the stack or we would have had constant problems for years, plus the pipe looked new. So, during construction of the bathrooms upstairs, this piece must have fallen into the then-exposed sewer pipe at some point. Whether the contractor knew it happened at the time or not, don't know, but I am guessing he knew when we started having all those issues, because he disappeared at that point, even though my last email to him (before we discovered the source of the problem) was to remind him that we owed him $1000.Last edited by Danno; 11-08-2018 at 03:00 PM.
"fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
"She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
"everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy
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11-08-2018, 02:33 PM #850
Beece, thanks for that info. I'll find someone, just figured I should ask since it sounded like you might have connections!
"fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
"She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
"everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy
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