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    Quote Originally Posted by skifishbum View Post
    Holy Filipino fishing boats Batman!

    Btw. KQ, less than 3% of Men's Division 1 lacrosse players are people "of color," and of that less than 2% are black. That's not "plenty." There may be more blacks at NASCAR races.

    Now back to camping.
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    Several of my hiking/climbing/ski touring buds are Eagle Scouts and/or NOLS grads, and all of them are very good campers. I'm self-taught. There are several ways to develop camping chops.

    I cannot imagine not camping out of a backpack 30+ nights/year, most off-trail miles from the nearest party, at least two 7+ day trips each year. Now that semi-retirement is a couple weeks away, I hope to ramp that up to 40 or 50 days/year. (We also camp in a pop-up camper as a base for day ski tours, lift-served skiing, scrambles, etc. -- Four Wheel Camper, ordering a new one today -- but backpacking vs. vehicle camping is apples vs. oranges.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    What am I doing wrong?
    If you gotta ask. . . . Backpacking can be uncomfortable for noobs, but it's comfy -- even with lightweight gear -- after you develop camping chops. A few ideas off the top of my head: Get and learn to use an ultralight silnylon tarp for those rainy camps. Figure out the food thing. Get a comfy lightweight mattress, e.g., Exped Synmat UL 7 or NeoAir. Consider a sleeping quilt or pad sleeve bag (e.g., Big Agnes).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    Holy Filipino fishing boats Batman!

    Btw. KQ, less than 3% of Men's Division 1 lacrosse players are people "of color," and of that less than 2% are black. That's not "plenty." There may be more blacks at NASCAR races.

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    Well hopefully that and ppls attitudes will change

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    I get my best sleep camping in the woods. Once I got a Big Agnes Insulated Air Core it's like sleeping in my own bed.
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    I recommend either:

    A) staying in a hut
    or
    B) pitching your tent nowhere near other humans.

    If being alone in a beautiful place isn't worth minor inconvenience and discomfort, you'll probably like golf or another similarly undignified past time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    But man I got memories of living in the woods all summer, hitch hiking across OR/WA/ID/MT/WY/ND/SD/MN/MI/WI backpacking around the Missions, Bob Marshall amd Pintlers. Gorging on trout fished from lakes up in cirques in the Rockies and Cascades...all cold and scratched and lumpy sleeping scared of bears or hobos or weirdos railyard sneaking. Soaking cold and wet in the Coast Range by Siletz as it was being torn down, stamping in the dark morning trying to keep warm. Dizzled amazed up in da UP blazing in the Porkies. Planting trees down by Stevenson, WA, cutting Xmas trees in November in Oregon living under tarps.
    This. I feel very fortunate to have grown up getting dropped off by planes or boats in the middle of nowhere and kayaking or hiking around for 1-2 weeks, barely seeing a soul (if at all). Absolutely terrified me every time that link to the world disappeared over the horizon, but the adventuring and feeling of accomplishment that followed makes up for all the suffering and miserable moments. So glad it was important to my parents and that they didn't let some little snot-nose kid get in the way. Enjoyed a lot of long solo trips over the years since - carrying and providing everything (including entertainment) for one's self is a whole other experience - and now have a great lady-partner to adventure with in and out of civilization. Ain't no place I'd rather be than sleeping in a tent.

    Whiskey/bourbon has an excellent weight:drunk ratio...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Steve View Post
    Several of my hiking/climbing/ski touring buds are Eagle Scouts and/or NOLS grads, and all of them are very good campers. I'm self-taught. There are several ways to develop camping chops.

    No doubt. Never claimed my way was better. I have heard the opposite on here before though. Scouts wasn't for everybody. I get it. I had no one else in my family that liked to camp or do anything outdoorsy, so it was great for me.

    2 weeks outside was plenty for me. That is 2 weeks and probably as many showers. 7 months plus is impressive. What was the shower ratio on that one?

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    Longest single run without a shower was 42 days. Tried not to go over 14 when I could help it.

    I'm a sucker for running water now, after living 6 years without. Doesn't mean I won't spike on a fire assignment for the full 14 still.
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    I once car camped in Philmont on accident. 2 years ago my brother in law and I were trying to cross over the portion of New Mexico through the night on dirt roads to get to a fly fishing stream. Well, we come to a gate with no sign on it that seems to be the right direction and decide we'll open it and keep driving through - what the hell it's 3am. After driving another 5 miles or so we come to another gate, but this one is locked even though it says it's national forest. Deciding we were too tired to keep going for the night we drove back a mile or two and threw our sleeping bags / mats out and passed out till daylight. I blasted awake the next morning in a fog but hearing voices. I groggily stood up, sleeping bag still on, and realize we're surrounded by what had to be 500 boy scouts of all ages - packs cinched around their brown costumes, bandanas neatly tied around their heads, with the beer gutted leaders all staring at us like we've just shit on their mother. So what else to do but light up a cigarette, turn on some tunes and drive out like you own the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigAK View Post
    I feel very fortunate to have grown up getting dropped off by planes ..
    I got dumped in the Boundary Waters/Quetico/Rainy Lake area by my parents every summer for 2 weeks at age 12.
    Cold mosquitos wet lost times. Lots of Northerns and Walleyes.
    Hated it at the time. Now it's some memories.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigAK View Post
    Whiskey/bourbon has an excellent weight:drunk ratio...
    acid beats it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grrrr View Post
    Longest single run without a shower was 42 days. Tried not to go over 14 when I could help it.
    Color me impressed. My record is 26 days.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigAK View Post
    Whiskey/bourbon has an excellent weight:drunk ratio...
    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    acid beats it.
    Heh.
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    What's the big deal about showers? Dunno my longest stretch without a shower. I think we had one or two showers in the 36 days it took us to bicycle from Missoula to Anchorage 33 years ago.

    Plenty o' fresh clean water in our mountains to keep the crotch, hands, face and feet clean and to brush your teeth. Doesn't matter if your other body parts stay dirty. Indeed, after everyone in the party gets a good layer of dirt they stop smellin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warthog View Post
    I



    Car camping

    When I was growing up car camping meant sitting in a tavern parking lot eating cheeto's and drinking orange pop while the old man and his buds
    got hammered inside. Sometime the trip from Duluth to International Falls would take 9 hours. I knew the name of every tavern in between.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    That's because they are out climbing Denali. And BTW - Lacrosse is a sport that was invented by and played by Native Americans. Plenty of ppl of color play the sport. In Historic First, Native American Brothers Win Lacrosse Trophy






    First All-African American Team Climbs Denali
    One of the people who was part of this was my NOLS instructor down in Chile. He has spent something like 650+ weeks in the backcountry stuffing his sleeping bag every morning. Guy is seriously badass and has just enough crazy in him to keep doing it.

    I love backpacking but there is always a reason to pack a bunch of booze and friends in a car, set up somewhere, light a fire and have a little fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    acid beats it.
    amen brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Steve View Post
    What's the big deal about showers?
    Sort of depends on how hard you're working and how dirty the environment is. My long stretches involved fighting wildfire - major grunge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bushman View Post
    When I was growing up car camping meant sitting in a tavern parking lot eating cheeto's and drinking orange pop while the old man and his buds
    got hammered inside. Sometime the trip from Duluth to International Falls would take 9 hours. I knew the name of every tavern in between.
    i did that one summer in n. minnesota with one of my dads.
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    I need to go camping soon.
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    camping Alberta style...



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    Didn't read anything but you must have never been camping in a coo place, Do you camp in the white trash campgrounds where you might as well he in a trailerpark? Or did you bother getting way out there. Try canoe camping. My favorite.

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    another gem

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    What are these things call showers that you speak of?

    Or as Ed Abbey put it..."I can't remember the last time I had a bath, so I don't know if I need one or not."

    I agree it is a constitutional right for Americans to be assholes...its just too bad that so many take the opportunity...
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    Haven't read this whole thread, but I must sure be a wierdo. If its warm out, theres clean water to drink/ swim in, and beautiful places to park without too many other folks around, and no one telling you where you can or can't park, I'd rather camp out of my car than sleep inside most of the time. I go visit friends in places sometimes and hang out with them and maybe use their kitchen or shower but I'd usually rather wake up somewhere beautiful and rub the sleep from my eyes while watching the sun come up than wake up on their couch.

    As for showers I think I've gone like two months as a kid but that was in the summer on the shore of a lake in texas, swimming for hours every day.

    Way worse than that was the 34 days without one backpacking in AK, rained for 9 days without stoppping, we were soaked for long periods but never even got a chance to get naked and air things out for the entire trip. We were asked to leave the denali lodge when we got back and called our ride due to our odoriferous nature. Serious funk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins View Post
    Haven't read this whole thread, but I must sure be a wierdo. If its warm out, theres clean water to drink/ swim in, and beautiful places to park without too many other folks around, and no one telling you where you can or can't park, I'd rather camp out of my car than sleep inside most of the time. I go visit friends in places sometimes and hang out with them and maybe use their kitchen or shower but I'd usually rather wake up somewhere beautiful and rub the sleep from my eyes while watching the sun come up than wake up on their couch.

    As for showers I think I've gone like two months as a kid but that was in the summer on the shore of a lake in texas, swimming for hours every day.

    Way worse than that was the 34 days without one backpacking in AK, rained for 9 days without stoppping, we were soaked for long periods but never even got a chance to get naked and air things out for the entire trip. We were asked to leave the denali lodge when we got back and called our ride due to our odoriferous nature. Serious funk.
    You didn't have to preface it explaining you didn't read the thread. If you had, you would have known that what you just described is not considered camping by the TGR campologists, so you should just keep your trap shut; because you don't know shit; and are a bad human being; with no soul; and you're not a man; sleeping on an air mattress.
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