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  1. #26
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    Check out SheRa's learning to surf in SD thread. And PM her for more info. Buy that beater long board and get started in the water. Close by, not lift ticket costs, and it will do a world of wonder buffing up shoulders.

    If you are serious about AT, there a some fun options nearby. The Palm Springs tram brings you from the desert to 8500'. The touring at the top is just that. Touring, with low angled tree runs. But it can be plenty of fun. And if you don't mind boot packing back up, there are a number of coolies on the north and east face that can be fun steeps until the snow runs out. Tahquitz, OTOH, offers some fun steep skiing during a good year. In a moderate year, the skiing is still good, until you are bushwacking out at the bottom. I have a TR on here some where with the both of them. Although, AT is as much of a gamble as Baldy. Some years it just does not snow. Hence the focus on the surfing thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ottime View Post
    Check out SheRa's learning to surf in SD thread. And PM her for more info. Buy that beater long board and get started in the water. Close by, not lift ticket costs, and it will do a world of wonder buffing up shoulders.

    If you are serious about AT, there a some fun options nearby. The Palm Springs tram brings you from the desert to 8500'. The touring at the top is just that. Touring, with low angled tree runs. But it can be plenty of fun. And if you don't mind boot packing back up, there are a number of coolies on the north and east face that can be fun steeps until the snow runs out. Tahquitz, OTOH, offers some fun steep skiing during a good year. In a moderate year, the skiing is still good, until you are bushwacking out at the bottom. I have a TR on here some where with the both of them. Although, AT is as much of a gamble as Baldy. Some years it just does not snow. Hence the focus on the surfing thing.
    Great advice here. Get a surfboard and a bike (road or mountain or both). And a lightweight touring setup - in addition to the options mentioned here, you will be about 4-5 hours from world class touring on the East Side of the Sierra Nevada. Spring time is ideal in the Southern Sierra.

  3. #28
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    If I were living solo in SD and not looking for a ladies, I would just get an RV rather than renting an apartment. Park on the street for free near the beach or work.

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    "If I were living solo in SD and not looking for a ladies, I would just get an RV rather than renting an apartment. Park on the street for free near the beach or work."

    yes this is a great option park right on beach and move to a new spot every 72 hours legal.
    a guy next door to us has a really clean one going for 3900.00 use it and sell it for what you bought it for.

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    Interesting thoughts! Dunno how serious the comments on an RV but that actually sounds like a fun experience...

    Baldy maggots/"casino-goers", any beta on the "proposed expansion" of lifts to the steep back-ish side of baldy that's on their trail map ? Timeframe? Good info source?

    I do spose I'll have to learn to surf. Would be the reasonable thing to do! Guess I should start frequenting a pool ...
    "I said flotation is groovy"
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    Yes serious about the RV. A buddy did it in a T@B like trailer he built himself. Only problem is you can't pick up girls with it. I would get one with a bathroom and maybe AC.

    Baldy expansion is a joke, they can barely keep the lifts they have running. If they built those backside lifts it would need to be done with helicopters, so very expensive. There is an area they could expand into that has an existing road, but they don't seem interested in that. Plenty of side country to explore.

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    Not sure why I didn't click on this thread earlier, but congratulations on everything.

    When you're not at work, you'll be glad if you live in the north county. Learn to surf.
    And I guess that I just don't know

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    As others said, take up surfing. Lots of beginner breaks. I will be in La Jolla Shores in Jan/Feb. PM me and we'll go surfing if you take it up. You could do a few Mammoth trips as well after storms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbcat View Post
    "If I were living solo in SD and not looking for a ladies, I would just get an RV rather than renting an apartment. Park on the street for free near the beach or work."

    yes this is a great option park right on beach and move to a new spot every 72 hours legal.
    a guy next door to us has a really clean one going for 3900.00 use it and sell it for what you bought it for.
    RV gone it was a steal

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    NOAA says El Nino is developing. Could be a wetter winter in CA if the weather-guessers are right.
    http://www.climate.gov/news-features...%B1o-impacts-0


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    Looks like a plan is coming together nicely for the week. I'm scheduled to see ten different places. I appreciate the advice on places to look!
    Down to hang out pretty much any night..

    Monday:
    - go see two places around Tierrasanta/Montierra
    - class 'til 6
    - beers with you guys?
    - other BS

    Tues:
    - going to see five places around Clairemont area near the clinic
    - prolly be done about 3-4 pm and would love to take a quick hike if there's time Tues mid-late afternoon
    - still down for some beers

    Weds:
    - meeting with my bosses... rut roh
    - got a sweet ass place to see that's 2BR, pretty new, WITH a garage!
    - class 'til 6
    - dinner? beers?

    Thurs
    - retarded busy
    - fly home

    Who's down to hang out? Weds looking real good. Would love to get the lay of the land. Anybody wanna take a hike Tues?
    "I said flotation is groovy"
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    Hey Deep Days - I moving out to San Diego for the beginning of July too. Still looking for a place. Not sure if any of the places you are looking at are in need of an extra roommate, but I definitely need to find a place, and it would nice to be able to find a place before arriving. You sound like you are on the same program, i'm definitely looking to score some backcountry around Baldy and the eastern sierra. Seems like so much to do in SD it should be fun. Let me know if you are in need of a roommate.

    Brian

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    Bump for beers around la jolla tonight?

    Bueller?
    "I said flotation is groovy"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deep Days View Post
    Bump for beers around la jolla tonight?

    Bueller?
    Welcome to California. Most are flakes, most are transplants and flakes. Enjoy your stay. "Around" la jolla is a fucking cluster tourist tug nut.

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    Check out the UCSD aquatic center in mission bay, great place to learn to Sail, Surf, Kayak. I grew up in San Diego and have been able to find the best things to do wherever I have traveled because of it. If your into Rock Climbing there is a couple cool gyms, Good local crags like Mt Woodsen and Mission Gorge, Taquitz is close as well as Joishua tree. If you have anytime off during yjr week you can get resonable flights to Mammoth. They also have a deal where you canpre purchase ticketsand get a price break. Problem is on the weekends there is limited seating for that deal but during the week its golden. Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by climbgoon View Post
    Check out the UCSD aquatic center in mission bay, great place to learn to Sail, Surf, Kayak. I grew up in San Diego and have been able to find the best things to do wherever I have traveled because of it. If your into Rock Climbing there is a couple cool gyms, Good local crags like Mt Woodsen and Mission Gorge, Taquitz is close as well as Joishua tree. If you have anytime off during yjr week you can get resonable flights to Mammoth. They also have a deal where you canpre purchase ticketsand get a price break. Problem is on the weekends there is limited seating for that deal but during the week its golden. Cheers
    Sweetness.

    Went hiking this weekend then beach the next day. Tuning up the bike this week.

    Probly gonna do a significant hike Saturday-- maybe around mt. Baldy just to check that out and probly get a season pass... Maybe Volcan mt. or something similar--and quick bike ride around fire roads ( black mt. Rd ??) or something easy within an hour if home Sunday morning. Anybody down?

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    Brian--feel bad I never got back to you, man. Girlfriend was driving me nuts and I got busy with the move. Unfortunately working all hours makes roommate a no-go. Would def be down to hang out and get outdoors though. Shoot me an email and let's go take a hike or a bike ride. Ggosey AT gmail DOT com.

  18. #43
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    On a good day with all terrain open, baldy is sick. On a non pow day in a good snow year, it is very fun. In a crap snow year, baldy barely opens.
    +1

    Actually it's based on Baldy not opening at all this last season, and being awful the prior two years. Getting a pass at Baldy is like putting $100 on black at the roulette wheel. Maybe half the time it pays off, and half the time it's just a donation to the house.
    That's about right. I've lived my whole ski career in SoCal since 1976 and have lots of stats regarding Baldy's and SoCal skiing reliability.
    http://50.87.144.177/~bestsnow/scalhist.htm

    Here are a few for Baldy specifically:
    35% of seasons (including the last 3) it never gets as much as half of terrain open and there is no time it's worth skiing there.

    Most of the other seasons it's only a few weeks that are any good. During the most reliable part of the season (mid-February/early March) it's worth skiing in under half of seasons. Earlier or later less than 40% of seasons. The blue seasons on that chart above are the ones where Baldy is worth skiing for 2 months or more. That's about 20% of seasons, though it's 50% of El Nino seasons.

    That said I've had a few of my greatest powder days there. But I live 1 hour away and that's over a 25 year period. Those powder days are last minute decisions that you won't be able to make with your rigorous work schedule.

    With an inflexible schedule and a strong interest in skiing, you need to figure out how to get to Mammoth. Once the snow is on the ground (worst case scenario last year that was early February, but it can just as easily be early December) you can take it to the bank that skiing at Mammoth will be good through Memorial Day. My son has spent college, grad school and now starting a job in San Diego and most of his skiing is at Mammoth and almost none at the SoCal local areas. He has a Mammoth pass and a share of a seasonal ski house. The drive to Mammoth is about 7 hours if not in traffic. If you think you need to fly you should consider Salt Lake as your destination.

    If you just need to get some turns in, the Big Bear areas 2.5 hours from SD) have world class snowmaking and thus a reliable 3+ month season, but it's nearly all groomers or terrain parks.

    The other posters are right that it will be easier for you to pursue surfing or mountain biking.
    Last edited by TonyC; 07-14-2014 at 01:57 PM.
    http://bestsnow.net
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    Wow. Some pretty sobering numbers...

    FWIW, I did--in a fit of foolish enthusiasm--go ahead and get a Baldy pass last week, hoping that against all odds I could bet on at least some fun groomers on the weekends. I'll have to see how the work schedule pans out with Mammoth. Certainly conceivable to do 3p to 10p commute Friday and Sunday afternoons if the schedule works out.

    Speaking of Baldy, though, and the San Gabriels, I was thinking of doing some tromping around up there this coming weekend. Not sure yet if it will be Saturday or Sunday. Would probly take a quick bike ride the other day. Was thinking of either Baldy itself or Mt. San Antonio or some other pretty significant kind of hiking day.

    Anybody interested in walking around outside?
    "I said flotation is groovy"
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    "Just... ski down there and jump offa somethin' for cryin' out loud!!!"
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    at least some fun groomers on the weekends.
    Big Bear is a better bet for that, though the quality of Baldy's grooming improved in 2010 with purchase of new equipment. However the investor who made those purchases is no longer involved with the ski area. Baldy should be targeted IMHO with a minimum 4-foot natural base, when you can take advantage of the steeps, trees, etc. that are far beyond anywhere else among the SoCal locals.

    The long term family management in charge at Baldy is, shall we say, variable in competence. In fairness it's tough to have good long term staff at a place that barely gets open 3 consecutive years. Before you go there, it pays to follow weather, research independent TR's, be there EARLY (that means 7:30 on the best days) to get past the ticket line and first chair chokepoints.

    With regard to your season ticket, we are unlikely to get the overly hyped huge El Nino, but even if El Nino remains at its current mild-to-moderate level, your odds of getting worthwhile use of that pass are increased. I would not touch that pass with a 10-foot pole WITHOUT an existing El Nino condition during the preceding summer. It's important to understand the details of your pass. In the past some Baldy passes have required you to register in advance before the day of use.

    While my son was at UCSD, he spent a summer in Solana Beach. The north county beach cities are nice but the commute to UCSD was slow and congested. He lived in Pacific Beach his senior year and found that commute from the south much easier. Clairemont (his junior year) rates to be the best compromise of convenience and price.

    In summer you can buy a scenic ride ticket up to the Notch at 7,800 feet, then hike the ~4 mile trail up chair 4 and along Devil's Backbone to the 10,000 foot peak. You'll get a good overview of the Baldy ski area (tops out at 8,600) on that hike.

    If you want a serious workout you can do the 4,000 vertical steep hike from San Antonio Falls, starting at the road about 1/4 mile below the ski area parking lot, up past the backcountry ski hut and through the bowl to the top.
    http://bestsnow.net
    "The most complete, comprehensive and objective guide to snowfall--and both prevailing and expected snow conditions--at North America's ski resorts ever published"- Powder Magazine.

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    I hike Baldy all the time. Official name is Mt San Antonio. Three ways to the top. Shortest and steepest (best way) is the Sierra Hut trail. Start at Manker flats/San Antonio Falls. Walk .7 miles on a fire road and look for the single track on your left. 4.5 miles and 3,900 vert to the top. You can do devils backbone by staying on the fire road to the notch (6.2 miles to the top). They are were charging $25 to ride the chair to the notch (ridiculous. It used to be $10). The third way is Bear Flat or it's also called bear canyon. Starts at the village. This is a beast. 6.4 miles and 5,800 vert. This is a good trail. Sometimes we just go half way and back. If you do the Sierra Hut trail, I like going down devils backbone (great desert views). It's easy to get back to the car. If you don't want too or don't have time to go to the top, going half way on the the Sierra hut trail is great. The hut is half way at 8,200 feet. Don't know if I am making it out this weekend. I have a noon meeting on Saturday.

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    surf ideas for San Diego

    Grew up surfing in San Diego, some advice about learning the sport. Best spot are for an newcomer is at Tourmaline surf park. Pretty much low key, and somewhat ‘kook’ friendly. Easy to paddle out to the break. Just watch for the rip tide channel.

    Forget about the following beaches
    Pacific Beach (pretty much shore break, not real suitable for a novice.) Might appears fun, but will be a whole lot of work for little amount of riding.

    Ocean Beach- tough crowd, car rip-off common due to homeless/drug problems.

    La Jolla reefs- strong localism, more advance conditions

    Pt Loma- still some less crowded breaks, but requires local knowledge of conditions/tides.

    Other beaches to consider,
    Scripps- ‘Green Wall’ Seem now to be a popular spots for beginners. Don’t know why, can be a difficult paddle for novices.

    Pipes in Encinitas, Can have a well-defined channel to paddle out, with plenty of wave inside to build skills.

    Del Mar- 15 street or some of the other less surf reef breaks. Got be willing to do a little bit of walking. One spot worth looking is Rainbow bridge (South Del Mar, where the train track pass under the old Highway 101. This can be a ‘sleeper’ break. Usually one of the lease crowded spots in the north county. An Excellent place to learn. Good well defined channel with a strong rip time to take you to the peak.

    For myself, left San Diego for Hawaii in 91’. Came back a couple of years ago. Just had no interest in surfing there anymore. Too crowded, and way too much attitude. My heart has always been in the Mountains. Presently living in Reno, and loving it.

    Skiing, Big Bear is only for scratching the itch. If your half way competent, you will be bored out of your mind in 2 hours. Consider flying. Southwest always seems to have special to Salt Lake, Albuquerque, or Denver.

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    San elijo has best glass at 7 IMO
    I need to go to Utah.
    Utah?
    Yeah, Utah. It's wedged in between Wyoming and Nevada. You've seen pictures of it, right?

    So after 15 years we finally made it to Utah.....


    Thanks BCSAR and POWMOW Ski Patrol for rescues

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    don't forget to swim with the sharks.

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    All good stuff! Thanks y'all. Dunno of I'm in shape yet for 5800 vert in a day. May just head up there Saturday and poke around for a bit and hike elsewhere within a half hour or so in the morning. Gotta do some research. Lemme know if anybody's gonna get around there this weekend.
    "I said flotation is groovy"
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