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  1. #1
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    The Unbreakable Ski Brake...Comments?

    http://postimg.org/image/6kgfj9g7d/

    The ski brake is design to rotate in one direction as the majority of skiers ski facing forwards. Broken ski brakes are generally caused by skiers travelling backwards and applying excessive forward lean to the ski. With the progression of freestyle skiing, there are an increasing number of skiers travelling backwards (switch) down the slopes and landing jumps in this position. I believe this has caused and increased number of cases where skiers have consistently bent or even broken off their ski brakes.

    ***See image link above for the full illustration***

    I have the idea to produce a new binding whereby the ski brake can rotate in both directions and therefore is not damaged if the skier is ejected from the binding travelling backwards.

    Key Questions:
    1. How common is this problem for you and your fellow skiers?
    2. Is this a product you would be interested in and pay for?
    3. How much would expect to pay for a binding with this feature?
    4. What issues do you face with your current ski binding and brake system?

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    Just when you thought perfection couldn't be improved upon...

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    Dude its losers like you that give ski bums a bad rap.

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    I would pay nothing. Brakes are cheap and easy to come by. Also, are you going to design this new brake to fit every binding on the market?
    It doesn't matter if you're a king or a little street sweeper...
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    Quote Originally Posted by matthuttonspd View Post
    1. How common is this problem for you and your fellow skiers?
    2. Is this a product you would be interested in and pay for?
    3. How much would expect to pay for a binding with this feature?
    4. What issues do you face with your current ski binding and brake system?
    1) Never even heard of this problem until now.
    2) No
    3) No
    4) It would be nice if binding manufacturers would stop building brakes out of unbendably stiff and/or brittle cast material.

  5. #5
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    Mags don't need ski brakes. We all have our DINs cranked to 20 and our skis are never coming off.

  6. #6
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    Solutions to un-problems always win.

  7. #7
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    I had this happen once in 20 something years of skiing. The binding manufacturer sent me a new brake assembly. Problem solved.
    Post this on newschoolers and you might get a better response but Im guessing this is still a somewhat rare problem even for the park rats.
    "College sailing isn't about who wins the most races, its about who can stand in the morning"

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    DON"T CLICK THAT LINK, damn thing just loaded an app called Mobo Genie on my phone without my permission....jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthuttonspd View Post
    Comments?
    Pull your pants up and stop skiing backwards.
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    And there will come a day when our ancestors look back...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthuttonspd View Post
    Key Questions:
    1. How common is this problem for you and your fellow skiers?
    2. Is this a product you would be interested in and pay for?
    3. How much would expect to pay for a binding with this feature?
    4. What issues do you face with your current ski binding and brake system?
    1. Never
    2. No
    3. $0
    4. N/A

    Quote Originally Posted by powder11 View Post
    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YetiMan View Post
    1) Never even heard of this problem until now.
    2) No
    3) No
    4) It would be nice if binding manufacturers would stop building brakes out of unbendably stiff and/or brittle cast material.
    Yup. This OP gives me plenty of WTF.

  12. #12
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    I am very interested in mounting this new brake system on my Rax skis.
    "Zee damn fat skis are ruining zee piste !" -Oscar Schevlin

    "Hike up your skirt and grow a dick you fucking crybaby" -what Bunion said to Harry at the top of The Headwaters

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    only brake problem i ever had was the dumbfucks @ plum takin 2 years to to design the overpriced pos they came up with
    "When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
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    ski on in eternal peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    I am very interested in mounting this new brake system on my Rax skis.
    Hi Harry,

    How often have you repaired/replaced your current brakes and how much might you expect to pay for a more durable alternative?

    Thanks

    Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthuttonspd View Post
    Hi Harry,

    How often have you repaired/replaced your current brakes and how much might you expect to pay for a more durable alternative?

    Thanks

    Matt
    Hi Matt,

    1) The brakes on my Rax skis are very unreliable. Every time I fall while skiing switch on my Rax the brakes have broken. I have sent multiple PM's to Tom from Austria asking for this problem to be addressed, but he says the unique design of Rax skis make the brakes vulnerable when skiing switch.

    2) Price is no object to me. I would be willing to pay in excess of $5,000 plus my Mom will make you a bacon sandwich if your brakes can solve my problem.

    I have 2 questions:

    1) Will I need to use a titanium hammer to install your brakes ?

    2) Do you have change for a nickel ?
    "Zee damn fat skis are ruining zee piste !" -Oscar Schevlin

    "Hike up your skirt and grow a dick you fucking crybaby" -what Bunion said to Harry at the top of The Headwaters

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    I don't ski broke back (or broke brake!) since I only ski uphill with skins on.

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    Stop riding Salomons...Problem solved!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BskiP View Post
    Stop riding Salomons...Problem solved!
    Hi BskiP,

    I'm interested that you say Salomon bindings have a particular weakness? Which bindings would you say had particularly strong brakes?

    Thanks

    Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthuttonspd View Post
    Hi BskiP,
    I'm interested that you say Salomon bindings have a particular weakness? Which bindings would you say had particularly strong brakes?
    Plum bindings are famed for their durable brakes. After many years of working in the ski industry, I've never once seen a snapped Plum brake.

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    Matt just doesn't get it.
    Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

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    Matt is probably an underpaid assistant hired to keep threads like this going by neither getting it nor responding to it. Same person spamming at Epic, and probably every other online ski site.

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    I keep reading his username as "muttonhead", seems to fit

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    Do you accept bitcoin in payment?
    Quote Originally Posted by Downbound Train View Post
    And there will come a day when our ancestors look back...........

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    I heartcarve and cannot stop snapping brake arms because when you carve from the heart, really and truly from all you spirit, you get really gnar edge angles and shit gets extreme!
    Would this product work on my Knee Binders?
    No longer stuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

  25. #25
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    Dude just make some replacement fks brakes.

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