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    Quote Originally Posted by Gripen View Post
    Here is your shitty little schools alumni for comparison.

    http://mtech.edu/alumni/distinguished.php
    Wait, THE Silvio Fopp??

    edit: I see Ken Dryden went to McGill, so fuck that place. Although you have to give them some credit for William Shatner I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DasBlunt View Post

    Montreal rocks for Canada.
    You obviously weren't paying attention in your Pauline Marois lecture... Montreal isn't in Canada, its in Quebec.

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    The UCL degree looks much broader than most UK undergraduate programmes so it's a little hard for me to judge it comparative to other degrees here. It does look like a very interesting programme though, with a lot of potential for intellectual growth as well as the chance to develop skills (languages) that would assist his employability. Bearing that in mind...

    Does he know what he wants to do for work yet? Or where? And is the objective of the degree to make him more employable or to generally extend his education and give him time to grow up? If it is the former I would think UCL makes more sense; there are a lot of good graduates who can't get jobs right now so I'd be concerned about getting the absolute best degree I can to be more employable.

    If he's likely to want to go into a European graduate scheme then UCL would be a good place to be as they will be on the circuit for milkround recruiters and should be geared up to assisting undergrads with their applications, networking events etc. Plus it'll be a more recognisable qualification to a London-based recruiter and London would be an easier place to get a relevant internship. Obviously the opposite would be true if he wants to work in Canada. And I don't know how French recruiters view English degrees - maybe you know better?

    There's lots to dislike about London but it is also a great city. I expect if he comes here with a positive attitude he'll have a load of fun. That said, I didn't like the idea of a big city university because I thought I'd be likely to wash up here eventually anyway and wanted to experience life elsewhere. And living independently away from home for the first time in a big city isn't necessarily for everyone.

    I did a 4-year undergraduate course at a Scottish university that resulted in an MA as a first degree. I know your son will be overseas anyway, but I had the chance to spend a year abroad in Grenoble and the experience of a different country's university culture was very valuable (as well as a 120+ day winter I found the studying abroad awesome and employers have been very positive about it too).

    I can't give you any answers as you/he need to work out a decision. But if you have any questions about life in London I'd be happy to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    I see Ken Dryden went to McGill, so fuck that place.
    For undergrad he played for Big Red and won a championship in 1967. He was unbelievable, winning 76 of 81 games. He's pretty much a God there.
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    Well fuck that place too then, obviously.

    Guy ruined my childhood.

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    Sad thing is, Bruins had him, but traded for some lame picks.

    Back on topic... PR's son should definitely bone up on his Star Trek episodes.
    Last edited by BigDaddy; 03-30-2014 at 10:48 AM.
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    Montreal is one of my favorite towns. If he's heterosexual he will love it there... hottest women in N. America IMHO. Fun bar area near the University as well.

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    Thank you Mulletizer. Very helpful input.
    (I don't think he will seek employment in 3 years.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by philippeR View Post
    [sweet blog]
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    , one year abroad (Spain for him), great staff/student ratio...
    On the other hand, he doesn't like London so much, while he did enjoy Montreal very much (in the summer...). He also think he would enjoy the north american "campus experience" more than the euro "urban university" vibe of UCL. (we did visit both uni). So, he's actualy leaning heavily towards McGill, on extra academic criteria.

    Other factors to consider :
    we would foot the bill and McGill is much cheaper for us (french citizens pay the Quebec rate of tution / UCL is expensive and London even more so)
    He can get his degree in 3 years in McGill, since his french Baccalauréat is good for 30 credits/120.
    The ESPS degree is 4 years (3 years in London + 1 year in Spain.)
    .?
    I seem to remember hearing that Spain was on the cheaper side for tuition?
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    The year abroad in Spain is part of the program, year 3 / 4. (He could have been in Germany, Italy, sweden, France, Russia…and a bunch of other european countries. And chose Spain since he's rather fluent in Spanish.) UCL doesn't give you a discount unfortunately…

    Edit : Ok, BigDaddy, Iceman, now I get it. You're talking hockey, right ? Do I need to start following hockey if my son is in Montreal ?
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    Since the Quiet Revolution hockey is pretty much the main religion in Quebec
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    Oui, l'hockey. Les Canadiens de Montreal et les Bruins de Boston.

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    It's either hockey or curling...


    I'd pick hockey.
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    Canada IS a curling power watch the movie "Men with Brooms"
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    Yeah, but which would you rather watch... especially live?
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    I'm not really big on either one but I'm from the left coast eh?
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    I know very little about UCL but McGill has some real benefits.


    Montreal is a fun city but expensive (maybe not as expensive as London). The women are outrageously beautiful and I'm saying that from Southern California. The city is full of fantastic food and bars. Great cycling community if he is into the outdoors.

    Academics at McGill vs UCL/LBS (I'm not sure how much they coordinate at the undergrad level):

    If he wants to study strategy, one of the (formerly) top scholars in the world (Mintzberg) is at McGill but I'm not sure how much if any he teaches or influences the undergrad BA. McGill has name recognition in the US and with decent grades will likely set him up for a good choice of top 50 (globally) grad schools.

    LBS is one of the absolute best business schools in the world. Right up there with Harvard, Wharton, Booth, Stanford, INSEAD, Columbia, MIT. If he does well there, he begins to write his ticket. Again I don't know exactly how much UCL ties in with LBS but I know they are fairly tight.

    Given that they are both top schools with good name recognition and in very metropolitan areas, I'd tell him to choose based on the best atmosphere for HIM to excel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    For undergrad he played for Big Red and won a championship in 1967. He was unbelievable, winning 76 of 81 games. He's pretty much a God there.
    Dryden was at McGill Law in the early 70s when I was an undergrad there. I saw him playing shinny hockey one time but like Ice says fuck him et les Habitants aussi.

    McGill for $5000 is a true steal indeed. That's about what I paid back in the day. Despite the fact that they gave me a degree their reputation has held up remarkably well and the Poli-Sci department probably still has enough commies in it to keep a left leaning young French man entertained.
    Damn, we're in a tight spot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonehuckin View Post
    LBS is one of the absolute best business schools in the world. Right up there with Harvard, Wharton, Booth, Stanford, INSEAD, Columbia, MIT. If he does well there, he begins to write his ticket. Again I don't know exactly how much UCL ties in with LBS but I know they are fairly tight.
    That's nice. Going from the OP there's not one hint that Philippe's kid wants an MBA, so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obstruction View Post
    Dryden was at McGill Law in the early 70s when I was an undergrad there. I saw him playing shinny hockey one time but like Ice says fuck him et les Habitants aussi.

    McGill for $5000 is a true steal indeed. That's about what I paid back in the day. Despite the fact that they gave me a degree their reputation has held up remarkably well and the Poli-Sci department probably still has enough commies in it to keep a left leaning young French man entertained.
    Plus McGill has the William Shatner Student Center.
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    They have socalized healthcare up in canada. The whole country is 100% full of pot smoking pro-athlete alcoholics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iscariot View Post
    Plus McGill has the William Shatner Student Center.
    One of my few (and insignificant) claims to fame is that I lived next door to the dorm room that many years before the Negotiator occupied when he was taking up space on campus.
    Damn, we're in a tight spot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iscariot View Post
    Plus McGill has the William Shatner Student Center.
    Is that where the drama students are taught to not "over act" ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by My Pet Powder Goat View Post
    ^^^I think we call that "schooled"



    So, How derogatory is the word "Queeb"? ...because I love using it.
    It reminds me of the word "queef", so it cracks me up. But I can see how some people might get upset.

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    I believe he's shooting for President of the french republic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tippster View Post
    That's nice. Going from the OP there's not one hint that Philippe's kid wants an MBA, so...
    Right and I didn't indicate that he did. I'm talking about Econ.
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