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    CPC Saying >50% Chance of El Nino for Winter 2014/2015

    Could be a strong one too:

    Mashable article with quotes:
    Since climate forecasters declared an "El Niño Watch" on March 6, the odds of such an event in the tropical Pacific Ocean have increased, and based on recent developments, some scientists think this event may even rival the record El Niño event of 1997-1998. If that does happen, then 2015 would almost be guaranteed to set a record for the warmest year on Earth, depending on the timing of the El Niño conditions.

    El Niño and La Niña events refer to fluctuations in air and ocean conditions in the tropical Pacific. El Niño events are characterized by warmer than average sea surface temperatures in the central and eastern equatorial Pacific, and they add heat to the atmosphere, thereby warming global average temperatures. They typically occur once every three to seven years and can also alter weather patterns around the world, causing droughts and floods from the West Coast of the U.S. to Papua New Guinea.

    El Niño events tend to dampen hurricane activity in the North Atlantic, and some research has even linked El Niño events to civil conflicts in Africa.

    When combined with global warming from greenhouse gas emissions and other sources, El Niño events greatly increase the odds that a given year will set a new global temperature record, as occurred in 1998.

    Tony Barnston, the chief forecaster at Columbia University’s International Research Institute for Climate and Society (IRI), told Mashable that the odds of an El Niño event developing during the next six months have increased to about 60%, which is up from just over 50% on March 6.

    The Pacific Ocean exists in a constant state of unease, like an ocean badly in need of a mood stabilizer. Trade winds blow along and to the north of the equator from east to west, piling up warm ocean waters in the western Pacific, and causing sea levels to be higher in the west than they are in the east. Like a tipping bathtub, this setup can quickly be reversed with a reversal in trade winds and a sloshing of the warm sea surface temperatures from the western Pacific to the east, first at depth in a series of undersea waves known as Kelvin waves, and next toward the surface as the warm waters rise off the west coast of South America.

    This complex chain of events, in which the atmosphere and the ocean act in concert to set up El Niño conditions, is well under way now. Starting in January of this year, there have been a series of strong bursts of winds coming out of the west in the equatorial tropical Pacific, and these have essentially replaced the typical easterly trade winds.

    Partly as a result of these wind bursts, ocean buoys and satellites have detected the movement of unusually warm ocean waters from the western Pacific to the east. Ocean surface currents, which normally move westward across the Pacific basin, have reversed as well. El Niño forecasters have taken this as a further sign of a developing El Niño, and these conditions were a key reason why an El Niño Watch was issued on March 6.

    Eric Blake, a hurricane specialist at NOAA’s National Hurricane Center in Miami, said conditions are changing rapidly in the Pacific, going from 50/50 odds of an El Niño, to a setup that eerily resembles the circumstances that preceded the monster El Niño of ‘97-'98.

    “It’s something we haven’t really seen since the '97 El Niño,” Blake said of the westerly wind bursts and ocean observations. Instead of having trade winds blowing from the east at five to 10 mph, some locations in the western Pacific have had winds from the west blowing at up to 30 miles per hour, Blake says. This is important because it has ripple effects on the sea and below the sea surface.

    “[It’s] not that we can’t step away from it, but with each passing day [an El Niño event is] becoming more likely,” Blake told Mashable.

    Paul Roundy, a meteorology professor at the University at Albany, State University of New York, said that the westerly wind bursts have been extremely strong compared to historical records. Two of these events in particular, Roundy says, “were of similar amplitude to the events that preceded the 1997 El Niño.”

    In addition, the warm waters moving eastward under the surface have been measured as much as nine degrees Fahrenheit above average, which is greater than similar waves observed prior to the 1997 El Niño event. “The present event is actually bigger than it was in 1997,” said Roundy.

    Roundy cautioned that this doesn’t necessarily mean that the current event will be stronger than 1997-98 was, but it does raise red flags.

    Wind patterns in the next two months will help determine whether an El Niño actually forms, and how strong it becomes. For example, even a temporary reversal of trade winds back to more typical conditions could dampen the eastward moving wave of warm water. So far, though, this hasn’t happened.

    “Instead of switching to easterly winds there’s been an actual continuation of westerly winds,” Roundy said.

    One problem that forecasters encounter when trying to foresee the likelihood and intensity of El Niño events is that there is limited historical data of the vast Pacific Ocean. Observational data only dates back to about 1990, Roundy says.

    Making matters more difficult for forecasters is the recent degradation of a crucial buoy network used for El Niño and La Niña monitoring. Budget cuts have led to missing data, with the network known as the Tropical Atmosphere Ocean Project, or TAO array, operating at just 30 to 40% percent of capacity.

    Roundy said the chances of an unusually strong El Niño event “Are much higher than average, it’s difficult to put a kind of probability of it … I’ve suggested somewhere around 80%”

    “The conditions of the Pacific ocean right now are as favorable for a major event as they were in march of 1997. That’s no major guarantee that a major event develops but clearly it would increase the likelihood of a major event occurring,” Roundy says.

    Barnston said any similarities of current conditions in the Pacific to those seen before the 1997-98 El Niño are an insufficient basis for forecasting an intense event. “As for the strength of the event, it is not known. Just seeing similarities with 1997 is not enough to go on," Barnston told Mashable in an email. "Unless we continue to get westerly wind events in the coming weeks, there is no guarantee that it will be a big event, and there is a 40% or so chance we will not get an El Niño at all,” he told Mashable in an email.

    Roundy and Blake also urged caution about concluding that an El Niño event is nearly certain to occur, and that it will be intense. Rather, Blake said, the situation bears close watching.

    “Anytime you have a non-negligible chance of something extreme happening, and you see it happening in a way that you haven’t seen in 15 to 20 years, it’s interesting,” says Blake.
    CPC El Nino Watch statement:
    Synopsis: ENSO-neutral is expected to continue through the Northern Hemisphere spring 2014, with about a 50% chance of El Niño developing during the summer or fall.

    ENSO-neutral continued during February 2014, with below-average sea surface temperatures (SST) continuing in the eastern equatorial Pacific Ocean and above-average SSTs increasing near the International Date Line (Fig. 1). Overall, the weekly Niño indices were variable during the month, with most indices remaining less than -0.5oC (Fig. 2). A significant downwelling oceanic Kelvin wave increased the oceanic heat content (Fig. 3) and produced large positive subsurface temperature anomalies across the central and east-central Pacific (Fig. 4). In addition, toward the end of the month, strong low-level westerly winds re-appeared over the western equatorial Pacific. Convection was suppressed over western Indonesia and the central equatorial Pacific (Fig. 5). Collectively, these atmospheric and oceanic conditions reflect ENSO-neutral.

    The model predictions of ENSO for this summer and beyond are relatively unchanged from last month. Almost all the models indicate that ENSO-neutral (Niño-3.4 index between -0.5oC and 0.5oC) will persist through the rest of the Northern Hemisphere spring 2014 (Fig. 6). While all models predict warming in the tropical Pacific, there is considerable uncertainty as to whether El Niño will develop during the summer or fall. If westerly winds continue to emerge in the western equatorial Pacific, the development of El Niño would become more likely. However, the lower forecast skill during the spring and overall propensity for cooler conditions over the last decade still justify significant probabilities for ENSO-neutral. The consensus forecast is for ENSO-neutral to continue through the Northern Hemisphere spring 2014, with about a 50% chance of El Niño developing during the summer or fall (click CPC/IRI consensus forecast for the chance of each outcome).

    This discussion is a consolidated effort of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), NOAA's National Weather Service, and their funded institutions. Oceanic and atmospheric conditions are updated weekly on the Climate Prediction Center web site (El Niño/La Niña Current Conditions and Expert Discussions). Forecasts for the evolution of El Niño/La Niña are updated monthly in the Forecast Forum section of CPC's Climate Diagnostics Bulletin. The next ENSO Diagnostics Discussion is scheduled for 10 April 2014. To receive an e-mail notification when the monthly ENSO Diagnostic Discussions are released, please send an e-mail message to: ncep.list.enso-update@noaa.gov.
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    Interesting indeed, as Blake states. Whatever happens, hope it translates to more precip for CA. Doesn't help me in CO, but I know how much CA needs it.
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    Truth. I know a bunch of water people and they're pretty busy these days.

    Fingers crossed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ernest_Hemingway View Post
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    bring it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightRanger View Post
    Truth. I know a bunch of water people and they're pretty busy these days.

    Fingers crossed.
    Same here. Yeesh. Anyway, I'll believe it when the snow actually falls.

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    Still speculation at this point, but I like where this is going. The mentions of 82-83 and 97-98 are bolded for historical context. Please. Please. Please.

    In the context of ENSO-neutral conditions since August-September 2013, this section features a comparison figure with persistent ENSO-neutral conditions for at least six bimonthly MEI values and ending in close proximity to the ranking of January-February 2014 MEI. Longer-lived neutral conditions (such as 1959-61) could only enter once into this comparison figure.

    The updated (February-March) MEI has gone up a quarter standard deviation, now at -0.02. Its current ranking has gone up to the 33rd lowest out of 65, still solidly in ENSO-neutral territory. To find analogous cases, I looked at the nearest-ranked Feb-Mar MEI values, and required an increase in their rankings from both the previous month and from Nov-Dec. Of the 9 cases selected in this fashion, three remained either neutral (1960) or dropped back to La Niña status within a year (1961, 1984). The other SIX cases look like a roll-call of historic El Niño events since 1950: 1957-58,'65-66, '72-73, '82-83, '86-88, and '97-98. Not only does this confirm the increased odds of an El Niño in 2014 (first pointed out four months ago on this wepage), it also translates into higher odds for a moderate-to-strong El Niño.

    In a big change from last month, positive SST anomalies now cover much of the eastern equatorial Pacific, as seen in the latest weekly SST map. Negative SST anomalies are still found near the coast of South America.

    For an alternate interpretation of the current situation, I recommend reading the latest NOAA ENSO Advisory which represents the official and most recent Climate Prediction Center opinion on this subject. In its latest update (March 6th, 2014), ENSO-neutral conditions are diagnosed and expected to continue through the boreal spring of 2014, followed by a 50% chance of El Niño developing during the summer or fall. As explained above, I am more 'bullish' on El Niño development in 2014, even more so than last month.

    There are a number of ENSO indices that are kept up-to-date on the web. Several of these are tracked at the NCEP website that is usually updated around the same time as the MEI, in time for this go-around. In 2013, Niño regions 3 and 3.4 rose from close to -0.5C in January to within +/-0.2C in March and April of that year. While Niño 3 dropped back to -0.5C and even lower from May through August, Niño 3.4 remained less negative (around -0.3C) through this period. During September through December, both indices hovered close to or just under 0C. In January 2014, both indices dropped, down to -0.4C (-0.5C) for Niño 3 (3.4), respectively. This drop continued for Niño 3 in February 2014, (-0.8C), while Niño 3.4 stabilized at -0.55C. March 2014 shows both indices recovering back to -0.2C, while the latest weekly information shows positive SST anomalies since mid-March.

    For extended Tahiti-Darwin SOI data back to 1876, and timely monthly updates, check the Australian Bureau of Meteorology website. This index has often been out of sync with other ENSO indices in the last decade, including a jump to +10 (+1 sigma) in April 2010 that was ahead of any other ENSO index in announcing La Niña conditions. In 2013, the SOI varied from slightly negative values early in the year (-4 in February) all the way to +14 in June and back down to -2 in October. It rose back up to +9 in November, consistent with potentially re-emerging La Niña conditions. However, the December value dropped right back to +1, only to be followed by a jump to +12 in January 2014, and back to slightly negative values (-1) in February. This was followed by a further drop to -13 in March 2014, its lowest March value since 1998(!). The SOI remains the noisiest ENSO index that I can think of, but this is excursion into El Niño territory is noteworthy.
    http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/enso/mei/#discussion

    Edit: By the way, the guy who wrote that, Klaus Wolter, is the guy for ENSO climatology at the moment.
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    A friend does water supply forecasting for a central Sierra river watershed. He did an analysis of El Nino and La Nina events. The data showed virtually no statistical correlation to increased precip for weak and moderate El Nino events for that watershed, and only a slight increase in precip in strong El Nino events.

    My very layman's understanding is that El Nino tends to provide more precip to the far Southern California, AZ, NM, Northern Mexico, and less to the PNW. But for the central part of the Sierra (where us Cali powsluts focus), the effect is less certain.

    Skis crossed for a strong El Nino. Or major dumpage anyway we get it....we need it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by meter-man View Post
    A friend does water supply forecasting for a central Sierra river watershed. He did an analysis of El Nino and La Nina events. The data showed virtually no statistical correlation to increased precip for weak and moderate El Nino events for that watershed, and only a slight increase in precip in strong El Nino events.

    My very layman's understanding is that El Nino tends to provide more precip to the far Southern California, AZ, NM, Northern Mexico, and less to the PNW. But for the central part of the Sierra (where us Cali powsluts focus), the effect is less certain.

    Skis crossed for a strong El Nino. Or major dumpage anyway we get it....we need it!
    This is true. And fairly well-documented. See Tony Crocker's page: http://50.87.144.177/~bestsnow/El_Nino.htm
    Quote Originally Posted by Ernest_Hemingway View Post
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    California makes the news, but there's still a lot of Colorado in dire straits, and been drought for over a decade now.

    SE CO especially, but really most all of the east plains are in bad shape. And if we ain't careful, what snow we got this winter will be just enough for some nice kindling for the mountains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capulin overdrive View Post
    California makes the news, but there's still a lot of Colorado in dire straits, and been drought for over a decade now.

    SE CO especially, but really most all of the east plains are in bad shape. And if we ain't careful, what snow we got this winter will be just enough for some nice kindling for the mountains.
    Call us when they're rationing water to urban users on the Front Range and national fruit, vegetable, and nut prices are dramatically affected. That's why CA makes the news--the severity, amount of people affected, and the fact that a large majority of the nation's produce is grown here.

    Definitely aware of the drought in CO. It really affects the entire Colorado River Basin. In Fall 2010, Mead and Powell were in terrible shape--the worst ever, if I recall correctly. Only a brief recovery since then. But it remains to be seen if it is in fact a drought or just a return to normal from the abnormally wet 20th-Century.
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