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  1. #8551
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    The tourists were supposed to be gone, they aren't. Schools have started. But those populations are not the real cause of the spike.

    While the tourists aren't completely gone, there's definitely far fewer. I'm not seeing much evidence in Breck of more people not wearing masks, but if it's happening at work or in offices, I wouldn't. The one variable that has noticeably changed since this summer is the schools. My nephew's class at Silverthorne Elementary has been quarantined, my daughter's cross country team was quarantined with a few kids sick and testing positive. Isn't it very difficult to trace cases if the kids are spreading the virus asymptomatically and possibly causing the uptick in cases we're seeing? Or is asymptomatic spread unlikely?

    At any rate, we need to be MUCH more vigilant about curbing the spread or we're fucked this winter.
    Old's Cool.

  2. #8552
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    It's is pretty nuts how the trend is going right now. It is supposed to be slow season, but numbers are UP UP UP. Case rates are higher than they have EVER been.

    The tourists were supposed to be gone, they aren't. Schools have started. But those populations are not the real cause of the spike.

    It's everyone having get togethers or being lax on masking/distancing in the workplace.

    We are starting to see hospital cases in CO which typically lag behind case spikes by 2-3 weeks (based on predominant transmitting demographics and chains of infection into vulnerable populations or multiplication in less vulnerable populations and then the time it takes to become acutely ill). CDPHE went over this yesterday and it was the most doom and gloom that I'd heard since March. What is sticking in my mind is some of the modeling that I dismissed from early summer was predicting the spike we are seeing now to occur now. Based on this new trend, everything gets shut down in December unless we bend the curve the right way. It is far easier to do it now than in November.

    If the hospitals fill, things will shut down. That will be BAD. We must not let it get there. However, everyone has caution fatigue and local cops don't want to break up parties or write tickets for public health order violations, so... I'm feeling pessimistic.
    Nice post. I bolded the key imo.

    Down here in Durango the tourist season has slowed down significantly, but not to normal levels for this time of year. That said, mask usage from visitors has been pretty good and local provisions have kept out of town folks from gathering large groups with locals at the bars or in ways that spread the virus badly. I've yet to hear of a single case in La Plata county that can be confirmed to have been contracted directly from a tourist out in public. I'm sure it has happened, but not at the level most expected. I love to blame tourons for all of our problems just like the rest of us, but it is clear to me now that it is not the texans that are responsible for the recent outbreaks around here.

    We had outbreaks at three major restaurants in town that forced shutdowns. The rumor is that almost all the cases attended a house party a few days before with some people who were visiting from out of the state. Fort Lewis has been forced to shut down a huge portion of their athletics following a big party and people are hosting "secret" music festivals in the woods. When it comes to COVID restrictions, there is a general attitude around town of, "do as I say, not as I do." Everyone I know (myself included) is having BBQs, going on long drives to the desert, sleeping around, having housewarming parties, and just doing everything we'd normally do, besides packing the bars on the weekends.

    For the most part we've been totally fine. Our community basically spent the entire summer expecting some kind of outbreak, and it didn't happen. It's understandably difficult to stay vigilant when the town is packed with tourists and no one is sick. Now that restrictions/attitudes are more lax and winter is coming the virus is sneaking up on us and it feels like no one is paying any attention. Everyone is just talking about what a great year it will be to get into backcountry skiing

  3. #8553
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    since this is where we bitch about traffic. Durango has some awesome trails but your traffic sucks. Would of thought with all those Texas plates going by I wouldn't of almost froze to death waiting 1.5hrs to get a ride from Cascade back to Molas.
    off your knees Louie

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    Quote Originally Posted by BFD View Post
    since this is where we bitch about traffic. Durango has some awesome trails but your traffic sucks. Would of thought with all those Texas plates going by I wouldn't of almost froze to death waiting 1.5hrs to get a ride from Cascade back to Molas.
    I've had some cold waits down there during the winter, but 1.5hrs to get back to Molas sucks. Did you try showing some skin? The locals love that.

  5. #8555
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    Quote Originally Posted by BFD View Post
    since this is where we bitch about traffic. Durango has some awesome trails but your traffic sucks. Would of thought with all those Texas plates going by I wouldn't of almost froze to death waiting 1.5hrs to get a ride from Cascade back to Molas.
    Maybe if you posted closer to I70 or in the sprocket rockets forum you would have had better luck?

  6. #8556
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    Got escorted on the way home by a statie around a stuck semi, at the Forest Service on 24! I-70 looked like a fucking nightmare, oh, wait, I really couldn't see it.

    https://www.vaildaily.com/news/8-inc...to-avoid-i-70/

    Hope lodging made bank.

  7. #8557
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    Can't believe I just did it. Pulled off i70 and got a hotel room because the road is too icy. No snow tires yet so a couple moments of yeeha and then fuck that.

  8. #8558
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    Quote Originally Posted by simple View Post
    Can't believe I just did it. Pulled off i70 and got a hotel room because the road is too icy. No snow tires yet so a couple moments of yeeha and then fuck that.
    You are the solution. It's simple.

  9. #8559
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    Alamo rented the wife a car with bald (illegal level) tires and watered down wiper fluid that froze in the lines at above zero temps. Fuck Alamo.
    Quote Originally Posted by blurred
    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

  10. #8560
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    Alamo rented the wife a car with bald (illegal level) tires and watered down wiper fluid that froze in the lines at above zero temps. Fuck Alamo.
    Texas come to mind?

  11. #8561
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    Alamo rented the wife a car with bald (illegal level) tires and watered down wiper fluid that froze in the lines at above zero temps. Fuck Alamo.
    Probably a previous renter that threw H2o in the reservoir. I wouldn't give Alamo credit for checking the washer fluid levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Name Redacted View Post
    Probably a previous renter that threw H2o in the reservoir. I wouldn't give Alamo credit for checking the washer fluid levels.
    Reservoir was full...
    Quote Originally Posted by blurred
    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

  13. #8563
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    Quote Originally Posted by simple View Post
    Can't believe I just did it. Pulled off i70 and got a hotel room because the road is too icy. No snow tires yet so a couple moments of yeeha and then fuck that.
    What day did you drive through? We drove from Grand Junction to Denver Monday evening... Parachute to about Eagle were terrible then spotty to Vail.. then ok after that.. glad I upgraded to a Wrangler when I saw there was a chance for that storm..

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  14. #8564
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    I got a room in Glenwood Springs last night. There was a particularly gnarly ice section west of DeBeque and then it got shitty again near New Castle. Glad I stopped.

    BTW as usual California drivers only seem to know how to use the left lane. WTF

  15. #8565
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    Sunuva! Thought I had another winter out of these tires..


    On that note, the amount of trash on the side of every bit of the i70 is truly disgusting. I want a clean area to change a tire. Fuck you littererz!
    the drugs made me realize it's not about the drugs

  16. #8566
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    Wow. Don’t see that every day. In fact knock on wood, I’ve never seen that in real life.

  17. #8567
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rideski View Post
    Wow. Donít see that every day. In fact knock on wood, Iíve never seen that in real life.
    Yea until you see the front right tire just sheer off on a rental going up over Berthoud and then flipping onto the guardrail. Sure winter driving is dangerous, but more power to the yahoos taking rentals that have been through who knows what up there.

  18. #8568
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    That's what happens when you buy ko2's.

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    Did you happen to find the rest of my tire?

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  21. #8571
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    Quote Originally Posted by bamboocoreONLY View Post
    That's what happens when you buy ko2's.
    Apparently. The spare has some good tread, gonna give that a go for a while.

    The ride from 75 to zero was a hoot. Most exciting ride this week.
    the drugs made me realize it's not about the drugs

  22. #8572
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    anyone in CO running snowflake rated A/T tires and going over the passes a lot? I ran Blizzaks two seasons ago and burned them up in one winter. Was commuting from Dumont to Golden 4 days a week, plus I skied about 85 days, mostly at Copper and WP and backcountry in various places. Brand new in November, bald in April.

    I do a lot of offroading/"overlanding" in the dry months, and I can't really afford to buy two sets of tires, so I'm hoping I can get away with some of the mountain snowflake rated A/T's.

  23. #8573
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackalps View Post
    anyone in CO running snowflake rated A/T tires and going over the passes a lot? I ran Blizzaks two seasons ago and burned them up in one winter. Was commuting from Dumont to Golden 4 days a week, plus I skied about 85 days, mostly at Copper and WP and backcountry in various places. Brand new in November, bald in April.

    I do a lot of offroading/"overlanding" in the dry months, and I can't really afford to buy two sets of tires, so I'm hoping I can get away with some of the mountain snowflake rated A/T's.
    Good question. I just figured this out for myself. General consensus is the 3 peak tires that are worthwhile are Falken Wildpeak AT3W, Toyo open country AT3, Cooper discoverer At3 4s (seeing a trend in naming yet??), or KO2s.

    Most people agree the K02s are the worst in snow with the other three being closer in performance. I went with Toyo AT3 for snow and quiet tires but the Falkens were a close second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtlange View Post
    Good question. I just figured this out for myself. General consensus is the 3 peak tires that are worthwhile are Falken Wildpeak AT3W, Toyo open country AT3, Cooper discoverer At3 4s (seeing a trend in naming yet??), or KO2s.

    Most people agree the K02s are the worst in snow with the other three being closer in performance. I went with Toyo AT3 for snow and quiet tires but the Falkens were a close second.

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    Yeah Iíve heard endlessly how bad the KO2ís are in snow. Iím looking at the Falkens or the Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLTís. The Falkens seem to get good snow reviews, but I keep hearing theyíre bad about being impossible to balance. I had Toyo AT2ís on my 4x4 van and they did pretty well.

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    My KO2s are surprisingly bad in snow.

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