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  1. #6976
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    Quote Originally Posted by zartagen View Post
    Google maps is now routing though clear creek canyon from boulder to Vail. I guess we can consider that "secret" route fucked forever.
    Thatís been fucked for awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zartagen View Post
    Google maps is now routing though clear creek canyon from boulder to Vail. I guess we can consider that "secret" route fucked forever.

    Edit: maybe it's just because of traffic on Floyd hill, but I don't remember it doing that before.
    It does that somewhat regularly when traffic is fucked on Floyd Hill. Nothin' new...

  3. #6978
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    I guess I haven't driven to boulder in 10 months or so. It used to be my go to strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zartagen View Post
    Google maps is now routing though clear creek canyon from boulder to Vail. I guess we can consider that "secret" route fucked forever.

    Edit: maybe it's just because of traffic on Floyd hill, but I don't remember it doing that before.
    Bwahahaha, "Secret" has been out for years. Get stuck behind one casino bus and you'll regret that shit.

    That's the thing boys, there is no secret short cut. Frontage road is a joke. CCC is a single lane shitshow.

    Tellin ya, drones. Invest in drones. We'll be held skiing in no time. Who needs a resort?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shredgnar View Post
    Bwahahaha, "Secret" has been out for years. Get stuck behind one casino bus and you'll regret that shit.

    That's the thing boys, there is no secret short cut. Frontage road is a joke. CCC is a single lane shitshow.

    Tellin ya, drones. Invest in drones. We'll be held skiing in no time. Who needs a resort?
    I mean, I did put "secret" in quotes. As in, at least Google wasn't routing Texans through there. I generally preferred the slower, steadier pace up the canyon than the throttle mashing drag race up lookout.

  6. #6981
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    Quote Originally Posted by shredgnar View Post
    Bwahahaha, "Secret" has been out for years. Get stuck behind one casino bus and you'll regret that shit..

    Tellin ya, drones. Invest in drones. We'll be held skiing in no time. Who needs a resort?
    Those casino buses haul ass. The casino patrons, on the other hand....

  7. #6982
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    I find I prefer the smooth, somewhat predictable pace of CCC to the aggro Floyd Hill slog. While joining in the left lane going West is like showing up late to a party where everybody is drunk and pissed off, swinging into the exit lane and saying goodbye going East is a true pleasure. Until you get stuck behind the Prius doing 32, but you knew that was gonna happen. Anything at all can crop up on 70, following a dinkus or occasional wildlife is the only issue in CCC.

  8. #6983
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    I go to Denver maybe once a year, but I enjoy the drive until I hit Morrison, then it's a stress fest. I don't care if it takes a few more minutes, but I don't do it regularly, and I never drive at peak times. It's not that bad. If you have a modicum of patience, and don't feel the need to red line everthing.

    My favorite times are going westbound at 4 in the morning, watching the moon.

  9. #6984
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    Transportation studies show mountain rail would be great

    Juuust kidding.

    Why Spend Millions Studying a Terrible Idea?

    A Front Range commuter train is such a bad idea that it doesnít even deserve to be studied. CDOTís request for proposals is based more on ideology than rationality and more on politics than economics. Colorado voters should be wary of promises made about costs, ridership, and congestion relief as the likelihood is that it will cost far more, carry fewer riders, and provide no reductions in congestion.

    https://pagetwo.completecolorado.com...terrible-idea/

    Mountain rail would be even worse.

  10. #6985
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    Construction began in July on the WB peak period shoulder lane from twin tunnels to empire. I, for one commend CDOT for at least doing something with the limited resources offered by taxpayers. I will happily pay to use this lane during peak periods just like I happily pay to use the EB lane.

    Should be ready for use by next winter.

    https://www.codot.gov/projects/i70mt...e/i-70-wb-ppsl

    I am surprised that the WB shoulder is wide enough through idaho springs for this project.

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    OFFICIAL I70 BITCH THREAD....

    One thing Iím really curious about is the section from Floyd Hill to the twin tunnels. Will that be 3 lanes? Or will the highway go from 3 to 2 then back to 3?

    I foresee some accidents at the big turn left WB at the bottom of Floyd Hill with an express lane...people driving down the hill too fast then having to brake and turn hard while staying in the lane and not hitting the jersey barrier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    One thing Iím really curious about is the section from Floyd Hill to the twin tunnels. Will that be 3 lanes? Or will the highway go from 3 to 2 then back to 3?
    The latter, at least for now: https://www.codot.gov/projects/i70mt...-shoulder-lane

    I foresee some accidents at the big turn left WB at the bottom of Floyd Hill with an express lane...people driving down the hill too fast then having to brake and turn hard while staying in the lane and not hitting the jersey barrier.
    Looks like long-term they're considering a westbound tunnel punched through to Hidden Valley?

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    Here we go again:
    https://www.summitdaily.com/news/stu...omic-benefits/

    That monorail better have bar car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blurred
    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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    seeing how RTD ridership is on the decline are politicians and gov't planners as stupid as they pretend to be lets waste money on trains no one but the homeless drug addicts want to ride
    anyone else following the DIA airport disaster when spending goes unchecked?
    cdot and rdt need alittle more oversight

    Also like how vail resorts isn't interested in having the bus stang drop less than desirable skiers at their resort doorstep, cause people who take public transportation don't have the money

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    I love this quote.....

    A high-speed transit system, which is hypothetically expected to carry about 5.4 million passengers a year, could mean as many as 4.2 million additional visitors, resulting in almost $550 million in additional spending

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    If you get more people to the resorts more quickly, guess what youíre going to need?

    IMO, if you remove the deterrent of traffic, more people will attempt the journey. Building the PPSL just means another 2 years of construction delays, followed quickly by increased use offsetting any benefit whatsoever.
    Quote Originally Posted by ilovetoskiatalta View Post
    Dude its losers like you that give ski bums a bad rap.

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    The answer is more resorts, for a shrinking industry thatís weather dependent, in the middle of a global warming trend.

    We should host winter olympics to justify the expense. ;-)
    Quote Originally Posted by ilovetoskiatalta View Post
    Dude its losers like you that give ski bums a bad rap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastfred View Post
    seeing how RTD ridership is on the decline are politicians and gov't planners as stupid as they pretend to be lets waste money on trains no one but the homeless drug addicts want to ride
    anyone else following the DIA airport disaster when spending goes unchecked?
    cdot and rdt need alittle more oversight

    Also like how vail resorts isn't interested in having the bus stang drop less than desirable skiers at their resort doorstep, cause people who take public transportation don't have the money
    Seeing that modern train technology can't climb the hills nor deal with the Rocky Mountain weather, they will connect with the Georgetown Loop Railroad to get up Georgetown hill...think of the cost savings!!

    Fucking morons...spending millions for details we can all tell them. There will NEVER be adequate ridership for a railroad to self sustain along the I-70 corridor.
    Be always sure you're right ó THEN GO AHEAD!

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    And around we go....
    Faster access to mountains = even more people coming up. Keep the I70 bottleneck in place. Eventually people will give up and move?

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    shhh... don't tell them swiss that. they would feel silly after all they built already.










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    The US isn't Europe. Have you looked at our transportation system at all? A jumbled mess and we spend more money fixing things than anything else. The rails were all there 100 years ago in Colorado. They removed them after the mining industry went bust. Now we all drive cars with 5 seats but use only one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m2711c View Post
    I like the tilted seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m2711c View Post
    shhh... don't tell them swiss that. they would feel silly after all they built already.








    I rode this. It is really slow, but really freaking cool.

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    No live update from the roads today? I-70 traffic leaving Denver looked EPIKONIC, and it still does at 7pm.

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