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Thread: OFFICIAL I70 BITCH THREAD....
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01-21-2019, 04:19 PM #5926
Vail pass and Loveland pass:
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01-21-2019, 04:34 PM #5927I won’t detail everything but I was involved.
Let’s suffice it to say that I know that the incompetent Brazilians would have sold for nothing just to be out from under it.
But I have no idea where your impression that BC skiing was under threat from the Forest Service. There would be no precedent for banning a non motorized use.
Really what I'm getting at is two things. One, the FS indicated that they wanted to transfer legal and financial responsibility to a Permit Holder. I will never know the nature or the seriousness of the some of the potential Permit Applicants. I have an idea that you may however. That said, many of them were not compatible with free public recreation.
The second, and important challenge was the logistic of having the top lot and pull outs operated as trail heads and a defacto rest stop. The sticking points are answers to the trivia questions above. CDOT is under no obligation or IGA to plow any of it. They do it because it has been decided at the local level that it is what they want to do. Without CDOT plowing there would be no legal parking and access would be seriously limited. The other is that everytime you turn left on the pass anywhere other than the top lot, you are breaking the law by crossing the double yellow. This was a challenge the the ski area and the bus country. Because of the classification of 40 as a hazmat route and such, this would have been very difficult to change.
Does anyone know the impetus for the warming hut and the operating funds needed to maintain it? I was out of the loop at that time.
Anyways, sorry for saying your opinions came from your ass. Twenty years down the road, none of this matters much and the skiing is still great. If a new independent ski are in Colorado is viable, this would be a great place to do it.
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01-21-2019, 04:35 PM #5928
^^^ jeez. Slow the fuck down people.
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01-21-2019, 05:03 PM #5929
I don’t recall any real possible permit applicants being discussed. But I suppose only the FS May have seen those.
If nothing else I bemoan the warming hut. It’s such a piece of shit - and certainly smells like shit. Such a classic, historical old building in the old lodge with a solid concrete foundations and so much space - tossed down for a small crappy little shit shack.
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01-21-2019, 05:15 PM #5930
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01-21-2019, 05:33 PM #5931
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01-21-2019, 06:04 PM #5932
I do not know the complete story behind the USFS decision to tear down the old lodge and construct the current warming hut. Before my time.
I do know that 100% of the operating expenses for the warming hut are currently provided by USFS.
Since we're already on the topic of bitching about FOBP. FYI the on-snow classes are this coming weekend (Sat 1/26 and Sun 1/27) which means the parking lot will be more of a clusterfuck than usual. Won't affect the skiing any, just the parking.
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01-21-2019, 06:14 PM #5933
Back to I70. Xgames this weekend. Prepare yourselves for the worst on Sunday.
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01-21-2019, 08:02 PM #5934
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01-21-2019, 09:53 PM #5935
So, plow parades...is it just me, or should one not be driving farther up than the trailing plow? I know they are only doing 20. But you are not passing shit, so settle.
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01-21-2019, 10:09 PM #5936
Member when they left a 100' gap to shoot? Fun times.
Saw so many people hesitate and just get fucking pummeled with rocks.
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01-21-2019, 10:26 PM #5937
Just slow patrol and scrape a little while they are at it.
And I'll say it again...wtf with this large material cdot has been using the past 2 seasons? The chunks picked up on tires and flung at me all the time sound pretty big. Just got chips in windshield...once they spread, I will be getting my 3rd windshield replaced in 1-1/2 years. Glad I bought the replacement insurance...they are taking a hit with me.
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01-21-2019, 11:20 PM #5938Registered User
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In response to hating on semis, At the very least, semis usually maintain decent following distance and stay in their lane which helps absorb the traffic-slinky clusterfuck that happens. That being said, I avoid i70 during 'peak times' so maybe I'm missing something
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01-22-2019, 06:38 AM #5939
Yeah "usually" but I would prefer the euro rules. There they can't use certain lanes and their speed is limited. They drive very close to each other but you don't have to worry about them pulling out suddenly. Similar rules apply to box trucks, trailers, and RV.
Problem is....Americans don't like rules....so we embrace the chaos.
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01-22-2019, 07:04 AM #5940
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01-22-2019, 07:14 AM #5941
I thought Americans loved rules? What am I missing?
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01-22-2019, 07:22 AM #5942
Coming back to Vail up Floyd hill last night, and got stuck behind a plow parade (it was actually nice, visibility was garbage). This xterra was weaving between all three lanes just so he could get up 10 feet behind the lead plow.
My friend who plows for CDOT just says it's your funeral if you wanna fuck with a plow.
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01-22-2019, 07:32 AM #5943
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01-22-2019, 07:34 AM #5944
Life of Colin. What a dick.
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01-22-2019, 08:37 AM #5945
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01-22-2019, 08:49 AM #5946Registered User
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01-22-2019, 09:02 AM #5947
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01-22-2019, 10:00 AM #5948Registered User
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