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  1. #7701
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    Why don't more people quit this shit? Please people. Just stop. Help clear the roads.

    Chase Epic to the East

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hott Butt Mud View Post
    Why don't more people quit this shit? Please people. Just stop. Help clear the roads.

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    Yeah, Vail should put a ski area in Limon.

  3. #7703
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viva View Post
    So, this is a normal Sunday afternoon, I take it? Love the folks driving the right shoulder!Attachment 312444

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    Never go north of 50

  4. #7704
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    Empire has been that way for decades. If they completely eliminated the stoplight, locals would never be able to cross, it would back up from i70 through the town on a lot of days. They could consider building more amenities and a bridge over the highway but I think they’re constricted by not enough clean water or something. The water part is second hand info, feel free to dish the real scoop. 20,000 cars rolling through town a few dozen days a year and they’re not booming why?

  5. #7705
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rideski View Post
    Empire has been that way for decades. If they completely eliminated the stoplight, locals would never be able to cross, it would back up from i70 through the town on a lot of days. They could consider building more amenities and a bridge over the highway but I think theyíre constricted by not enough clean water or something. The water part is second hand info, feel free to dish the real scoop. 20,000 cars rolling through town a few dozen days a year and theyíre not booming why?
    They make these really cool devices where pedestrians push a button and the light gives them a walk signal, but otherwise allows cars to proceed unimpeded. Maybe you've seen such a device in the wild?
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    And I'm home. It could have been worse, could have been better. Probably took us 3 hours from Leadville, with an hour stop for Mexican in Frisco to see if traffic lightened up (it didn't, but the food was good).
    "fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
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  7. #7707
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    Although you can walk across Empire I presume some of them have motor vehicles. But what’s your solution, free flowing through the middle of town? 30 mph? 60 mph? I mean I don’t really care I don’t live there and don’t ski there much, just curious.

    More curious why empire isn’t booming. They could have a lot more burger and taco shacks. Affordable gasoline compelling people to stop? I mean I haven’t tried to build a highway-town but some towns seems to manage pretty well. For as long as Empire has had that traffic they don’t seem to be capitalizing much.

  8. #7708
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    I'm not certain but I think it's been discussed here in the past but I believe the gist of it is that some Empire locals don't want to capitalize on the traffic.

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    I can envision that and the fact they likely have some very old roots. Wonder what the kids (now adults) want.
    Can’t temember where I heard the water thing, here probably.
    PMcPoser worked on the mine nearby might have been from him.

    Paging Foggy, you gave us the Berthoud backstory, what’s up with Empire?

  10. #7710
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    Turtle neck wearing uptight WP skiers don't stop to pick up BP skiers hitchhiking. Those standard wankers arent going to stop in Empire until there is a Starbucks, Best Buy, and Apple store at the least. I'm guessing here at what these basic white bread skiers like. They don't like us dirtbags or dirtbag towns I can tell you that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simple View Post
    Turtle neck wearing uptight WP skiers don't stop to pick up BP skiers hitchhiking. Those standard wankers arent going to stop in Empire until there is a Starbucks, Best Buy, and Apple store at the least. I'm guessing here at what these basic white bread skiers like. They don't like us dirtbags or dirtbag towns I can tell you that.
    Too true. I'd rather have them not stop to pick me up than go skiing there however. My hitching scene was pretty good Saturday but not during the Front Range 500. I used to like in a dirtbag town, now it is getting overrun by Audi SUVs and "the plow is too loud and woke me up citiots". I'm usually psyched when the AirBnB'ers show up. A least they know now to smile and have a good time.

    Saturday 3pm I couldn't even park in WP to run a couple quick errands. This whole valley is being sold down the river for the benefit of the developer and politicians bank accounts. We have had literally zero infrastructure improvements in 25 years.

    I hope this market can stomach $25K sewer taps and $100/hr. carpenters because that's what they got in Vail. You want it...you got it.

    Off to work to make dreams happen, lets see if Alpine even has any 2x4s. Gotta make the $800K modular by the tracks be awesome! Don't forget your check book!

  12. #7712
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles View Post
    We have had literally zero infrastructure improvements in 25 years.
    Well at least it's impossible to turn left from the gas station now. Christ, what a piece of shit that "improvement" is.

    Gotta make the $800K modular by the tracks be awesome! Don't forget your check book!
    Holy shit you're working on that piece of crap? I'm sorry.

  13. #7713
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles View Post

    Saturday 3pm I couldn't even park in WP to run a couple quick errands. This whole valley is being sold down the river for the benefit of the developer and politicians bank accounts. We have had literally zero infrastructure improvements in 25 years.

    I hope this market can stomach $25K sewer taps and $100/hr. carpenters because that's what they got in Vail. You want it...you got it.

    O
    sewer and water taps are 35k in summit

    that's the new norm, not being able to do shit around town on a saturday, it's insane, I can move if it sucks that bad
    a moratorium on buildling should be done here in summit, but god forbid you do that a piss off everyone getting rich, we have these master plans that get done every 10-20 years that says how much density and where you can build, but none of the plans talk about roads whose going to pay for it raising taxes and what not

    the county gov't is broke more or less and they are sitting on a gold mine but can't figure out how to tax anything because they are all pussies and want to be reelected, lift ticket tax, real estate transfer tax, meals and rooms tax, tax the shit out of the tourists, it's not hard. but right now they are trying to start a higher minimum wage law, sure enough all the resturant owners are against it, cause they don't want to pay more in wages and forgo their new sprinter van, second home, multiple vacations to mexico and Hawaii

    my favorite is bills ranch in frisco, they allow all these houses to be built and someone just decided that the bike path is now a road, without any consideration, that's awesome planning

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    Not gonna lie, I am actually considering moving back east instead of dealing with this shit. At least I can roll groomers with no traffic and lines and occasional powder days up north in VT. Theres always Utah but gotta go to where the stubborn family is. Dealing with this shit for the quality of snow is not even worth it. Over a foot days are so few.

  15. #7715
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    Quote Originally Posted by toastybroski View Post
    Not gonna lie, I am actually considering moving back east instead of dealing with this shit. At least I can roll groomers with no traffic and lines and occasional powder days up north in VT. Theres always Utah but gotta go to where the stubborn family is. Dealing with this shit for the quality of snow is not even worth it. Over a foot days are so few.
    DO IT!
    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    All ye punterz! Leave thine stupid heavy skis in the past, or at least in the resort category, for the age of lightweight pussy sticks is upon us! Behold! Keep up with the randocommandos on their carbon blades of shortness! Break thine tibias into spiral splinters with pintech extravagance!

  16. #7716
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    Quote Originally Posted by toastybroski View Post
    Not gonna lie, I am actually considering moving back east instead of dealing with this shit. At least I can roll groomers with no traffic and lines and occasional powder days up north in VT. Theres always Utah but gotta go to where the stubborn family is. Dealing with this shit for the quality of snow is not even worth it. Over a foot days are so few.
    I'm confused
    guess you are one those people who missed out on last thursdays epic ikonic no show no lines suprise powder day?
    oh wait the highway was closed

  17. #7717
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    Quote Originally Posted by toastybroski View Post
    Not gonna lie, I am actually considering moving back east instead of dealing with this shit. At least I can roll groomers with no traffic and lines and occasional powder days up north in VT. Theres always Utah but gotta go to where the stubborn family is. Dealing with this shit for the quality of snow is not even worth it. Over a foot days are so few.
    I'd encourage you to do so...

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    Double dog dare you

  19. #7719
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    I triple dog dare you!
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    It's really the only answer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by toastybroski View Post
    Not gonna lie, I am actually considering moving back east instead of dealing with this shit. At least I can roll groomers with no traffic and lines and occasional powder days up north in VT. Theres always Utah but gotta go to where the stubborn family is. Dealing with this shit for the quality of snow is not even worth it. Over a foot days are so few.
    Or... just buy a nice mountain bike with all that money you saved by not skiing every weekend, and ride 10-11 months a year down here while everyone else sits in traffic "chasing the pow, man". Sure, it's not Epikonic (TM) but at least you'll still have your soul. If you need a legit powder fix, go storm chasing half a dozen times each winter to quench your thirst.

  22. #7722
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    I took my dog on a run up Bear Peak on Saturday. Was really icy but it was more fun than sitting in traffic.

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    Your smokin something if you are thinking that mtn biking isn't the same overcrowded nonsense. Just lacks traffic. Parking at trailheads is a junk show. The precious LHOHV is already known and getting too busy.

    Mtn bikers are like scooter riders at the skate park. All fashion and keep multiplying and can't do any real tricks.

  24. #7724
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    OFFICIAL I70 BITCH THREAD....

    Itís not even close, and itís not nearly as weather dependent as skiing.

    And for places like LH, crowds donít matter because the trails are directional. Sure, there are a lot of cars parked along the road and you might see some other riders on the climb but youíre free to haul ass on the descents. Other places are overrun with hikers and congestion like Red Rocks and North Table, but thatís like skiing Breck on a Saturday.

    Plus, when the rest of the trails dry out and bikers can spread out, the trails will be even more empty. Regardless, I can deal with a few other people if it means not waking up at 4am and/or sitting in hours of traffic.

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    Hopefully more and more people will decide to leave this shit and move back East.

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