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  1. #6701
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    Why is his horn not even blaring? Blew past the truck ramp? Wth? Total coward move to not eat shit in the ditch when he was closing in on the mass of cars. How long would his line of sight have been before hitting all those people? What’s the thought process of “well I see all those people in cars cars about 1.25 miles ahead that I’m going to hit at 80 mph or I can mitigate the overall disaster and go off the road. Hit the people. Thats will be the best thing to do”.

    Just horrible. All this.

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    I'm guessing there were three things happening here. Wasted driver, mechanical failure, and panic.
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    News reports keep saying he was sober...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfelot View Post
    Why is his horn not even blaring? Blew past the truck ramp? Wth? Total coward move to not eat shit in the ditch when he was closing in on the mass of cars. How long would his line of sight have been before hitting all those people? What’s the thought process of “well I see all those people in cars cars about 1.25 miles ahead that I’m going to hit at 80 mph or I can mitigate the overall disaster and go off the road. Hit the people. Thats will be the best thing to do”.

    Just horrible. All this.
    I am not sure he could see far enough ahead to see the line of cars when he was passing the truck ramp. I am not making excuses for him, just basing this on the video of where the other guy was stuck in traffic and what I know is visible from the truck ramp entrance.
    Last edited by Danno; 04-26-2019 at 09:21 PM.
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  5. #6705
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    This was so hard to watch when they were trying to get water after the fire trucks arrived. 9news (I think) reported that civilians were helping run the hoses to the nearest hydrant which was 1/4-1/2 mile.

    Gut wrenching.

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  6. #6706
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    I am not sure he could see far enough ahead to see the line of cars when he was passing the truck ramp.
    Likely not, the ramp is 5 miles away from where he crashed.
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  7. #6707
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    But yet there's several medians large enough to land a small plane on in between the two.

  8. #6708
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    Incredible idiocy and negligence and if that video of the guy rolling past the truck ramp and cutting the apex to prevent a rollover is the same truck that kid is cooked. Some of these guys driving are just flat stupid. You tell them how to operate the engine brake properly and when and then they still do not seem to grasp the concept that they will lose the brakes if they use and overheat them. Can't fix stupid as noted by all the numbskulls with smoking brakes on 70.

    Also using guardrails and other terrain to slow trucks down in an emergency is in all the books.

    A computer driven truck would apply the engine brake and have no need to use the brakes if properly programmed. Modern engine brakes are super strong - a driver can select between 2 4 and 6 cylinders and simply use that toggle switch and gear selection to regulate speed. No need for brakes to ever become hot except an emergency or hard braking situation...one full stop for a loaded truck will get the brakes hot enough to smoke.

    FWIW when I was a kid in need of some structure in my life I drove a truck over the road for almost 2 years as a 22 year old in the early ninties back and forth across all the big passes. I loved the mountains then as now. Loved every opportunity to chain up in a snowstorm. Never had hot brakes.



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  9. #6709
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    White knuckled tunnel vision might not have seen the ramp... Because he had no business behind the wheel
    this is the conclusion I drew. Trying to picture how I'd have handled that situation at 23yo. Pretty sure the runaway ramp never even registered with the driver. At this point in the vid, I would have expected to see smoke or flames if he'd overheated his brakes. Looked pretty clear, so wonder if he lost air, but that would should result in full clamp-down, not release. Baffled.

    We've had several calls asking if we received any calls about an erratic or aggressive semi driver through Georgetown, or any calls about a truck having lost its brakes around Genesee. The last cell tower that routes to Clear Creek is at El Rancho (which is actually Jeffco), which is still what, 12 miles from where he crashed? We didn't get any calls. I'm still going with massive oh-shit moment and inexperience driver.

    Condolences to victims and loved ones. Really scary scenario (inexperienced drivers burning brakes/burning semis/crashes, etc.) that happens way too often, usually with less dire consequences. Put this a few miles west and maybe destroy a few homes, some more lives and half the forest..
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    Quote Originally Posted by PowderHorse View Post
    This was so hard to watch when they were trying to get water after the fire trucks arrived. 9news (I think) reported that civilians were helping run the hoses to the nearest hydrant which was 1/4-1/2 mile.

    Gut wrenching.

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    I figured that. Running 5 inch supply line 1/4 -1/2 mile is a complete nightmare. Those 25 foot lengths are so heavy.

  11. #6711
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    Quote Originally Posted by doebedoe View Post
    He's being held on 4 counts of vehicular homicide. I can't imagine he gets off with much less.

    23 years old from Texas. No doubt inexperienced in the mountains. The systems that put him in that place without the training on how to instinctually handle it suck ballz.
    Originally from Cuba, in Texas for last 2 years. I'm thinking some combination of first time in mountains/rode brakes to failure/wasn't trained on engine braking/downshifting/can't read "runaway truck ramp" signs/too freaked the f out to think about runaway truck ramp or putting truck into guardrail.

    500K cash bail.

    Who said he was ready and gave him the keys?

  12. #6712
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    Quote Originally Posted by skideeppow View Post
    yeah truck was flying.
    I could not believe how long it took them to flow water onto the scene. Looks like they had a couple of tenders on scene but they only provided a couple thousand gallons. They did not start using the master stream off that engine for like 15 minutes. Looks like there was no water anywhere close. Must have run 1/2 - 3/4 mile of 5 inch supply line from a hydrant.
    West Metro does not have tenders in their fleet. I had our tender at the West Metro training facility supplying water for a driver/operator tender familiarization training earlier that day and was heading home empty when the crash occurred. I didn't hear about it until I was back home and after refilling. Our chief is an engineer for West Metro...he had a bad couple days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suburbs View Post
    Originally from Cuba, in Texas for last 2 years. I'm thinking some combination of first time in mountains/rode brakes to failure/wasn't trained on engine braking/downshifting/can't read "runaway truck ramp" signs/too freaked the f out to think about runaway truck ramp or putting truck into guardrail.

    500K cash bail.

    Who said he was ready and gave him the keys?
    I've heard news reports he needed an interpreter in court. Having a CDL and needing an interpreter in court and is wrong on so many levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldengatestinx View Post
    I've heard news reports he needed an interpreter in court. Having a CDL and needing an interpreter in court and is wrong on so many levels.
    There is a big difference from reading road signs proficiently and wanting an interpreter to ensure you're answering questions in a legal setting correctly.

    But I should be listening to adrenlate's maxim: never argue with GGS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doebedoe View Post
    There is a big difference from reading road signs proficiently and wanting an interpreter to ensure you're answering questions in a legal setting correctly.

    But I should be listening to adrenlate's maxim: never argue with GGS.
    Runaway Truck Ramp. Yes, that is a complicated sign to read (with multiple signs posted over many miles of highway, huge font, bright yellow with flashing yellow lights) and comprehend while driving a truck and holding a CDL.
    Last edited by goldengatestinx; 04-29-2019 at 04:13 PM.
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  16. #6716
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    I don't know man, there is a reason most roadsigns have associated images with them for a reason. Crosswalks, school zones, etc.

    This is going to come back to the company that hired and saw him fit to drive.
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    Unless he was misquoted in the news, the driver sent a message to his family saying “God is with me; this is not fair what they’re doing to me“ among other thoughts. None of the thoughts expressed any remorse about killing four people and sending many others to the hospital let alone the property damage and turmoil. Class act. They said he was crying in court and here I thought he was distraught at the thought of killing people, turns out he feels he’s being unjustly held because it was an “accident”

  18. #6718
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    There aint no jobs here pushing cattle
    So I got on part time haulin' gravel
    with some outfit from Seattle
    Down here building custom homes
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  19. #6719
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    OFFICIAL I70 BITCH THREAD....

    Semi fire shut I70 for 2+ hours so far by Georgetown. Been sitting near Silver Plume for that long. Fuuuuuuuck this highway!!!!!!

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    Vibes yo. Always have touring gear in the car IMO. Beats sitting there.

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    OFFICIAL I70 BITCH THREAD....

    Quote Originally Posted by simple View Post
    Vibes yo. Always have touring gear in the car IMO. Beats sitting there.
    Yeah, should have done that. Even starting dumping for a half hour. Still haven’t passed GTown 🤦

    Didn’t hit a shitshow like this all season. Guess I was due.

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    That is saying something. Gotta pay the piper.

  23. #6723
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    Brake fire?
    the drugs made me realize it's not about the drugs

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    They are detouring everyone off the highway at the GTown exit, then back on. There’s a skeleton of a truck sitting in the middle of the highway, on the bridge. Still smoldering. A chemical fire?

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    We passed it coming up this afternoon. I70 packed from bottom of GT hill to Bakerville. Looked like a bunch of wood in a box trailer. Kinda smaller stuff if I saw correct, perfect for starting a nice campfire. A lot of smoke but not much fire and crews were there working it.
    Another driver with either bad brakes and/or the inability to use them properly. Fortunately don't think it cost other people their lives this time.
    Welcome home. Fuck.

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