PSA: Repair you own fucking edge compression

[rob stokes]

Cut it out, I bet you won’t notice it gone.


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[Dshack89]

Anybody know a SLC shop that sells edge material? Just opened up my Moment Govs to attempt an edge replacement and discovered that the edge material I got from Utah Ski Gear is a different size (the little mounting tabs on the edge material dont match up). I called Lofthouse (out of stock) and powder house (wont sell it to me). Any other suggestions? Would love to get these suckers epoxed and clamped tomorrow so I can thrash them again in the Friday pow.

Thanks!

[RockinB]

Shoot an email to skilab. I’m pretty sure they are in SLC and they can likely sell you a short piece of edge.

[tuco]

Who cares about the tabs? Is the edge itself the same thickness?
Try WSD, Hinterland or any other local manufacturer.
I've got some ON3P edge material. Gonna be way thicker though, meaning more removal for you

[Dshack89]

Thanks! I was thinking it made sense to match the tabs because the OG edges on the moments are essentially inlaid in a layer (e.g., the edge almost snaps into place). Seems more stable to reuse the existing grooves for the tabs versus scraping off the material holding the edge tabs and relying on screws/epoxy alone.

[tuco]

Don't overthink it brother!. Remove w/ sharp chisel. Those 'keys' are epoxy. You'll create new ones upon layup. Don't waste your time with screws.. Besides, to try and use existing keys is gonna leave you with having to make very precise cuts on each edge end. Those 2 areas of edge coming together is an area that you will never be able to seal. Make them fit well

Edit to add: Foil tape would be bueño

[Dshack89]

Thanks, appreciate it!!

Dumb question, how would I use the foil tape?

[Caucasian Asian]

I facilitated the sale of a pair of skis for Mntlion last week.
Yesterday I reached out to the woman to see if they were able to make a deal, and she said that her husband may have broken them already. I asked her for a picture, because most people over-exaggerate damage. I was thinking maybe a core shot, maybe a broken edge, something that could be fixed with a little work.

I was wrong.

[abraham]

The first one didn't look terrible, but damn what did he do to have that result?

[hawkgt]

DAM!!!!!! that is a delam.

edit: how in the hell? the binding screws would have had to all strip also

[Caucasian Asian]

Apparently he had an "incident " with a tree.

I'm not sure if that means the skis were on the roof of the car and he rolled the car off the road and into a tree, but he hit something hard.

[detrusor]

Like to use one or 2 of the little screws. Not for strength but to help the edge stay in place while I epoxy, clamp etc. second scraping the old “tabs” off. The epoxy will create new ones. If you have a hot box or something to keep them like 100 degrees after epoxying the cure and flow is exponentially better.


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[tuco]

Thanks, appreciate it!!

Dumb question, how would I use the foil tape?

Rubber tape(aka VDS) between edge and core/laminate.

[Dshack89]

I still need to flatten the base to clean up the JB weld that oozed out, but this held up to plenty more rock hits today. I truly appreciate all the tips in this thread...gave these beat up skis another few weeks of life (at least!).

[Tailwind]

I'm trying to figure out if these are beyond hope. Edge is pretty compressed. Lots of base damage and some sidewall cracking.

Any thoughts? I'm not used to this type of damage on skis.

[tuco]

Giver a go man. Nothing to lose.
Can't really respond proper now, but pretty much follow directions of this thread.

[unclebill]

I'm trying to figure out if these are beyond hope. Edge is pretty compressed. Lots of base damage and some sidewall cracking.

Any thoughts? I'm not used to this type of damage on skis.

I remember way back an interview with Eric Pollard talking about innovation, rocker vs. camber in particular. He said something like he wanted a ski that "looked broken".
To me yours doesn't look very healthy, more than just sidewall damage at least from the pics. Does it have any strength left in it at all? I broke one (not a fish) a few years ago but it was obvious, pretty much a noodle. I couldn't even ski it down.

[tuco]

Wind-whats prognosis dude?
Amongst your tools, this oyster knife is a delam killer. Easiest, best way to get full saturation of epoxy into delam.
Check over what tools(o knife or similar, clamps, heat source) and materials(sintered base material, epoxy) you need.
But seriously, your repair should be very similar to the original post. Just make sure EVERY crack in your sidewall gets filled before clamping. If you have questions man, just ask or feel free to pm me.

[Tailwind]

Appreciated!

I’m going to give it a shot. No harm in trying.

Long week at work and chasing snow this weekend. I’ll likely work on this slowly over the course of a week.

I’ll review the thread and hit you up with questions.

Wind-whats prognosis dude?
Amongst your tools, this oyster knife is a delam killer. Easiest, best way to get full saturation of epoxy into delam.
Check over what tools(o knife or similar, clamps, heat source) and materials(sintered base material, epoxy) you need.
But seriously, your repair should be very similar to the original post. Just make sure EVERY crack in your sidewall gets filled before clamping. If you have questions man, just ask or feel free to pm me.

[tuco]

Fellow dentists, I’m repairing my beloved Spatulas and I need advice. As you can see in the pics, I’ve cut out the base and am ready to patch, but I’m trying to figure out what to do with the cracked metal in the core. My plan was to pry the crack open and flood it with g-flex, screw it down with a few base screws, and then g-flex over everything and patch with base material. The main issue I see here is that the heads of the screws could keep the base patch from sitting flush.
Other option is to cut out the cracked metal with a dremmel and then patch, but not sure how that’ll affect the strength of the ski or if the crack will spread once the ski is deeply flexed once it’s all back together and on snow. Maybe I could drill a small hole through the metal at the end of the crack to keep it frown spreading, like you would on a ski boot?
I don’t ski these a ton, but get out on them 3-4 times a year for Shane’s sake and want to keep them alive. What say you?

Pics

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The tip of the knife blade shows how far the crack goes

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Not quite sure how I missed this one.
How did it turn out Leo.
Salvaging some Spats.....
Just what this thread was meant for.
Post some finished repair pics Leo

[PlayItLeo]

Not quite sure how I missed this one.
How did it turn out Leo.
Salvaging some Spats.....
Just what this thread was meant for.
Post some finished repair pics Leo

Thanks to this thread, they came out pretty well. Ended up cutting out that cracked metal, epoxied the shit out of it, threw a bit of fiberglass drywall tape in there to fill some volume, put in a base patch and clamped with heat.
Fixed a few other minor delams over the summer as well.
Skied them hard three times this week and they’re holding strong!
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[tuco]

Thanks to this thread, they came out pretty well. Ended up cutting out that cracked metal, epoxied the shit out of it, threw a bit of fiberglass drywall tape in there to fill some volume, put in a base patch and clamped with heat.
Fixed a few other minor delams over the summer as well.
Skied them hard three times this week and they’re holding strong!
TGR is the shit!!








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Hahaha
Fuck yeah brother!
Resurrected Spats! I love it dude!
That ski looked to be in rough shape.
Nice ski dentistry man!

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

J Clamps, Bessey Clamps, grip clips, that's a good assortment of clamps.

[tuco]

J Clamps, Bessey Clamps, grip clips, that's a good assortment of clamps.

Didn't even have to remove his Sali clamps

[Mailman]

I managed to do this to my 4 day old Enforcer 104 Frees.

Didn’t notice a particularly hard hit during the few days I was on them, but I must have hit just the right place at just the right angle and found this when I put them on the tuning bench.

It doesn’t look nearly as bad as a lot if the damage in this thread so I assume it’s fixable. Is this just epoxy + clamp + now it’s an outside edge only?