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12-22-2015, 10:04 PM #801Registered User
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12-22-2015, 10:06 PM #802Registered User
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12-23-2015, 09:08 AM #803
Where were all you big mountain rocket ship riders when the Wren was an absolute gun? I'm sure there are people out there that pulled the trigger on an 11/12 Wren, and are still too scared to ski it.
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12-23-2015, 09:11 AM #804Training for Alpental
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12-23-2015, 10:31 AM #805
Heads up that I'll probably be listing some 186 kartel 98's in January after some upcoming travel. This year's top sheet.
Great ski just not what I need.
Currently mounted with sth2-13s. On the goddamn line.
If anyone's looking and wants them sooner than late Jan, let me know and we can probably work something out.
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12-24-2015, 11:00 AM #806
Well, I tend to agree with Adrenalated on this and what you say about soft snow shapes on narrower skis.
If ON3P ever makes a mountaineering ski I hope it will be more of a Wren92 than a Steeple92, but with the Steeple/tour lay up, I have a pair of Wren 102, and that exact shape with the flex from my old 191 BG tours would make a great ski. 25-ish sidecut, 184cm. I'll buy one for sure. Scott, make me one and I'll test it for free
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12-24-2015, 05:46 PM #807
Just want to keep adding to this. Yesterday I was finally able to ski the 14/15 Cease and Desists (183) I purchased at the end of last season. Quick description is two thumbs up a barrel of monkeys fun. Read more if you want some specifics. If you are on the fence, just do it, buy some.
When: 12/23/15 - a pretty good early season in CO
Where: Loveland, Chair 1, Ptarmigan (nee chair 2), 4, 8
Snow: 4 or so inches of new on top of 10 the day before. Lots of soft. A little snow and wind during the day, but no new significant accumulation.
What: FUN! On any untracked, or slightly tracked snow they are super fun, duh, they are a huge pow board. The pin tail is pretty sweet, my first time on a ski like this. They made quick work of the wind skin (not crust, but on its way to crust) and any pow. When it got beat down (yeah, that takes about three hours these days at Loveland without more terrain open) they were still super fun and turned quick. Once it turned to crud and just soft bumps they were still fun, but this is not their preferred terrain. The shovels got pushed around a bit and you had to put a lot more energy into them.
I did a few laps on chair one later in the morning to see how they compared to the Jeffrey 114s (which came out later). They are totally servicable on steeper (yeah, chair 1 at Loveland isn't super steep, but it isn't flat either) soft snow terrain. But, this is not what they are intended for.
These are a super sweet totally fun, can't go wrong pow ski that will get you deep into the day until they become not quite the right ski for the job. If you ski somewhere less crowded than the Front Range or it snows all day, they will be awesome all day.
I then went to the car and switched out for the Jeffrey 114s. (186). For cut up snow and anything soft, these are so much fun. Point and shoot, go through anything. If you are looking for a daily type ski on softer snow (they are ok on groomers, but at 114 underfoot, they aren't intended for that), get these, you won't regret it.
Super stoked on my two ON3P skis and will for sure buy more. Good work to the whole ON3P team.
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12-24-2015, 05:51 PM #808Banned
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What would be considered a big mountain gun now? Im a big dude and I need to finish my quiver up with an absolute rocket ship. Something that demands power and speed, and if you get backseat you will die immediately.
The only problem is that a new custom veneer 191 will run almost triple the cost of a 190 seeker on sale. I
could go non veneer and spend less but I want the beefiest ski possible.
When you say harder to ski, you mean the seeker doesnt turn as easy? or that its hooky and unrefined feeling all mtn and really only for AK powder? I dont mind a heat seeking straight liner, but i dont want some unrefined plank that cant turn when needed. At 6'3 200 lbs I find the 191 Billy goats a breeze to ski. I need something much beefier.
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12-24-2015, 10:51 PM #809
So I know I'm the guy pushing for a narrower billy goat, but add me to the list of those who thinks a RES shape for a nearly 90mm ski probably doesn't make much sense. Something in the Wren mold seems a lot more useful.
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12-25-2015, 07:50 AM #810
Harder to ski = requires more effort. It's stiffer underfoot and has a ton of camber. Unrefined = tip is much softer than the rest of the ski and tends to deflect (hence the worse stability). Tail is perfectly flat and doesn't want to smear when needed (detuning the last 6" of the ski with a file helped).
A standard 191 wren is much more ski than a 191 Billy goat. I doubt you'd feel the need for the veneer.
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12-25-2015, 09:58 AM #811Banned
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Whyd Ice have to ruin it with the soft tip...
3 pm Edit: skied billy goats again today. Figured them out better on groomers, now i can really get them to hook up. Not that it matters, they see groomers less than 10% of the time, but they were very fun when in the correct posture. I cant explain the body position you need to be in, as its different from anything else ive skied, but it works and feels much closer to the bibby/governor now that im used to it.Last edited by aevergreene; 12-25-2015 at 03:55 PM.
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12-26-2015, 10:12 AM #812
Now that we're back on the ski wishlist, I would love ON3P to build a version of the Salomon Rocker2 108 in a 190 length, which makes them 111 underfoot. The current shape is so fun and so easy to ski; it's the perfect storm day or small accumulation day ski. It just needs ON3P's burly build quality and a tiny bit more stiffness.
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12-26-2015, 10:28 AM #813Banned
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Thats exactly how I would describe the 186 jeffrey 114.. its so much fun and so easy to ski. Forgiving and great in deep pow or on firm, and everywhere in between. makes quick work of bumps and trees. it has the backbone youre looking for. IMO 190 rocker2 108 and 186 jeff are apples n apples
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12-26-2015, 07:21 PM #814Undertow
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12-27-2015, 07:47 AM #815
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12-27-2015, 04:17 PM #817Banned
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12-27-2015, 05:17 PM #818Registered User
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"Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers
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12-27-2015, 05:27 PM #819Banned
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I feel like they can be lazily skied, atleast at 200lbs... They can do whatever, thats why i like them. I dont feel they want to be driven like the viciks, or like my old katanas did.
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12-28-2015, 10:17 AM #820tinkerer
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The BGs are amazing in anything soft or choppy. It's been good out there. Really good. Been out on the 11/12 BG 191s for the last 7 days. (they were the year that RES was only on the 191s, think it's that one). They are fan-fucking-tastic as we know in light powder, heavy powder, heavy chop, light chop, etc. Not, maybe, the best on groomers (As in, why bother), but not gonna suffer.
Whenever I'm not riding these, I forget how much I like the pop. For a narrower ski that busts crud, plays a bit like these, pops off stuff with aplomb, and is a bit of fun on (at least soft) groomers, what do I get?
Best I've found that I recall is the Atomic ritual. But, whenever I ride my BGs, i just want to end up with more on3p in the quiver. Hated the 181 j-mos I rode a while ago, but that's cause I'm 230 lbs and not very fat. I ski reasonably confident, reasonably fast, tend to lay down bigger turns rather than shorter tight turns. I'm definitely not the fastest or the best, but don't turn too much and leave the ground often (though not huge, 5-10 foot drops, similar sized hops). Are the jeffrey's stiff/heavy enough in longer sizes? Do I get a wren? Am I looking for a mediocre-day ski that on3p doesn't really do?
EDIT: Also, what's different with the newer BG?
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12-28-2015, 11:27 AM #821
FWIW I'm similar dimensions, and absolutely LOVED the 186 J-mo. I stick with ON3P's 186 when I can. I even downsized from the 191 BG to the 186, and felt the ski lost nothing in terms of it's stability at high speed, in variable snow.
The newer BG from what you have has a different tip profile, and a little less length, and splay in the tail I believe.Training for Alpental
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12-28-2015, 11:59 AM #822Banned
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I think the 186 jeffrey 114 is very stable for what it is, a jib ski..
I ski very hard, im a big dude, and even with the soft tail, the 186 jeffrey has never really washed out on me. I have to try extremely hard to over power them.
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12-28-2015, 02:23 PM #823
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12-28-2015, 02:28 PM #824
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12-28-2015, 04:12 PM #825Registered User
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For those wanting an ON3P made mid 90's touring ski: http://nextadventure.net/on3p-tychoo...FQMJaQodIm8NDQ
Never skied them myself, but it sounds like what some here were describing.
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