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  1. #51
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    What is the heel distances without the base plate, if one would mount without it?

    The floggings will continue until morale improves.

  2. #52
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    30x30.

    Mounting the 14 without the plate would kinda defeat it's purpose imo, the heel block is pretty important to its performance I believe.

    I'll be making my own template for the 14's once I have my boots in place. I can adjust that to any size boot easily if anyone are interested. Guess you'll have to measure your own pin - to - heel length and boot center mark, but once I have those, the rest is easy.
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  3. #53
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    ATK raider 14 DIN binding

    FWIW, I run mine without the heel block (but still the heel plate). At about 175 w/o gear, haven't had any problems, even after some pretty big 4pt stomps (30-40') - which would stress the heel pins really good I'd think. That said, if someone gave me an aftermarket heel block, I'd use it - no harm in doing so.

  4. #54
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    Thanks SiSt for the info!

    The floggings will continue until morale improves.

  5. #55
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    Does anyone have the dimensions for the mount pattern on the Raider 12 model? The 60 mm heel for the 14s is too wide for my Volkl BMTs.

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    Raider 12 is 30x27 toe and should be 25x86 heel (same as the race binding adjustment plate)

  7. #57
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    Also, if you don't care about the stomp block you can put the 14 on their adjustment plate and it will work fine

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    ATK Raider 12 mount template

    Thanks for the responses timmaio and linkan110. I followed the pdf trail on the ATK site and found the mount template:

    http://www.atkrace.it/wp-content/upl.../03/RAIDER.pdf.

    There's a taper for the 2 sets of heel screws (30 mm and 25 mm).

  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiSt View Post
    Some pics of the new heel block.

    Height adjustment looks simple enough, though accessing the adjustment screws seems a minor pita.

    Overall very promising looking imo.
    What is the height (range) of the heel block? Thinking of adding this to my speed radical (w. shimmed toe) and am wondering if this one could fit. However the website ( http://www.atkrace.it/collezione-pro...-al07/?lang=en) lists no dims. I know you can adjust them, but what is the range?
    I would mount without the adjustment plate, obviously, and drill it into the ski.

  11. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetdaddy View Post
    Out of curiosity does this binding have a spring loaded heel that compensates for ski flex like some of the other newer tech bindings like kingpin, beast, ion, vipec etc?
    Will have next year.
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  12. #62
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    Came across this pic, apparently next years raider. Appears to have a "radical" style heel riser and some sort of elastic system in the heel (like IONs?). unfortunately gets a touch heavier.


    http://www.skieur.com/actu-matos-nou...tions-atk-2017

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    simen@downskis.com DOWN SKIS

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    looks great.

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    Any changes to the raider 12?

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    same heel piece construction with rearward travel and new heel riser.
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  17. #67
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    Heel riser with magnets!!!111!!

    Will be interesting to test these for sure!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiSt View Post
    Heel riser with magnets!!!111!!

    Will be interesting to test these for sure!
    Will these be available to go on skis in this years group buy?

  19. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrantN View Post
    Will these be available to go on skis in this years group buy?
    99% sure they will.
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  20. #70
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    would love to see those heel risers on something like the RT bindings, super light but with two riser positions

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    You can buy em separately to add to the RTs.

  22. #72
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    I'm guessing you're referring to these. They dont look the same to me. The AL04 heel riser only appears to have flat and one higher mode. Next years raiders appear to have two risers
    http://www.atkrace.it/collezione-pro...aiser/?lang=en

  23. #73
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    Ah, you're right. Slightly different. You still have 2 heel risers, just have to turn it to access one of them, instead of both being flippers like the Raiders.

  24. #74
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    anybody know the ramp delta on the freeraider 14?

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    Its around 9 or 10mm if I remember right. That was the older version though. Not sure if the new one is different.

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