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  1. #4251
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    My family is from former east Germany with their five year plans and social controls, so you can f right off on telling me the proper uses of electricity, according to you. I have a right to power and enterprise that I intend to defend.
    Live each season as it passes; breathe the air, drink the drink, taste the fruit, and resign yourself to the influences of each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shera View Post
    My family is from former east Germany with their five year plans and social controls, so you can f right off on telling me the proper uses of electricity, according to you. I have a right to power and enterprise that I intend to defend.
    So it has nothing to do with carbon emissions. Thatís fine but donít sell your personal freedom as something else.

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    So, this must be one of those times weíre supposed to be patient and remain optimistic???


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    "NVIDIA announced today that it's halving the hash rate for Etehereum cryptocurrency mining on the new GeForce RTX 3080, 3070, and 3060 Ti graphics cards to make them less desirable for miners.

    The company will add "Lite Hash Rate" or "LHR" identifiers to retail product listings and boxes for all these new nerfed graphics cards that will start shipping later this month."
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    Quote Originally Posted by jm2e View Post
    So, this must be one of those times weíre supposed to be patient and remain optimistic???


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    BTC is an intangible asset by IRS definition. Like a piece of artwork. All you have is patience and optimism which is a basic tenet of capitalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    So it has nothing to do with carbon emissions. That’s fine but don’t sell your personal freedom as something else.
    Electric cars are a carbon problem currently.

    See how you went from using electricity to carbon emissions? Can you even see that? I think I stated my favored path earlier, but I'll say it one more time and that's it: Shut down coal plants now, fund expansion of renewables and address oil and gas with some sensitivity and an eye to transitioning out over time.

    I'm not going to respond to you again.

    edit sorry, not going to respond to the topic again
    Live each season as it passes; breathe the air, drink the drink, taste the fruit, and resign yourself to the influences of each.
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    Bitcoin....who's gotten into it?

    Quote Originally Posted by shera View Post
    Electric cars are a carbon problem currently.

    See how you went from using electricity to carbon emissions? Can you even see that? I think I stated my favored path earlier, but I'll say it one more time and that's it: Shut down coal plants now, fund expansion of renewables and address oil and gas with some sensitivity and an eye to transitioning out over time.

    I'm not going to respond to you again.
    There is utility to a car. BTC has limited utility other than a trading vehicle. Perhaps in the future but for now itís just speculation. Thatís fine. Stocks like QS and SPCE are speculation and may never be anything other than ticker symbols.

    You donít have a response to whether Tether is a scam? I thought you were an expert?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shera View Post
    Electric cars are a carbon problem currently.

    See how you went from using electricity to carbon emissions? Can you even see that? I think I stated my favored path earlier, but I'll say it one more time and that's it: Shut down coal plants now, fund expansion of renewables and address oil and gas with some sensitivity and an eye to transitioning out over time.

    I'm not going to respond to you again.

    edit sorry, not going to respond to the topic again
    I get where you are coming from on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jm2e View Post
    So, this must be one of those times we’re supposed to be patient and remain optimistic???
    The fact that PoS coins are bullish despite the crash in bitcoin shows something about investor sentiment surrounding the whole energy consumption ordeal. People are free to buy what they want and I wouldn't be surprised to see bitcoin make a comeback. But it also shows voting with your wallet is a real solution. People are starting to take the hint so a HODLER has to a least think about the long term trend.

    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    I get where you are coming from on that.
    I think we all do. Maybe a bit disingenuous though to both argue we should shut down coal plants now while also arguing folks have a right to power an enterprise however they want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MultiVerse View Post
    The fact that PoS coins are bullish despite the crash in bitcoin shows something about investor sentiment surrounding the whole energy consumption ordeal.
    Let's be historical (hysterical?) though about it. In these swings, alts often pump while BTC drains. Then people switch to BTC when alts do big ratio gains to BTC and hit new ATH. Then they swamp into BTC. Then the Bogdanoffs call the Rothschilds and dump BTC some more. Alt lover panic sell. Then them pump BTC and drop alts. Then the alt lovers finance their accounts and buy more alts because alts are so cheap. Then alts get cheaper. Then they get even cheaper. Then they panic sell. Then they pump the whole shemozzle. Then the alt lovers revenge trade against the machine. In 4 weeks, everyone and everything has been washed a few times back and forth, a new hope arises. People quit trading and watch Star Wars reruns. Elon tweets. Paris Hilton removes her laser eyes. The forest is calm. Summer is here. Enjoy it.
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    But that's a quibble to what PG posted (at first, anyway, I haven't read his latest book) ―jono
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    I enjoyed the Star Wars reference but isn't your argument similar to second half of mine, the part you snipped? In other words, we should expect a bitcoin rebound (at the expense of alternatives) but investors (speculators if you prefer) are also becoming increasingly aware of the issue.

    FWIW, I think you're right about market shenanigans. I also think you're wrong that all of crypto is scam. A new generation of entrepreneurs are working very hard at solving real problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MultiVerse View Post
    I enjoyed the Star Wars reference but isn't your argument similar to second half of mine, the part you snipped? In other words, we should expect a bitcoin rebound (at the expense of alternatives) but investors (speculators if you prefer) are also becoming increasingly aware of the issue.
    For sure. It won't go up, down, or sideways in a straight line. It probably will hit $50K again in 1 week. And from there I drop darts on the chart to make accurate price predictions. Summer is coming. Historically the space takes a 30% ish decline after all the May crypto conferences end. Then another small pump/dump in July sometimes. Then back with new hope in Sept/Oct. If the past repeats. Which it sometimes does and sometimes doesn't. I think people are exhausted now. Crypto is about to overplay the hand. Go away in May and come back in September. End of May, middle of June was a low last big cycle (2017). We are def in a similar looking cycle by charting. But they didn't need Laser Eyes last time. I think the beta factor on this time is bigger.
    OH, MY GAWD! ―John Hillerman  Big Billie Eilish fan.
    But that's a quibble to what PG posted (at first, anyway, I haven't read his latest book) ―jono
    we are not arguing about ski boots or fashionable clothing or spageheti O's which mean nothing in the grand scheme ― XXX-er

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    Quote Originally Posted by puregravity View Post
    Nah Bro.

    I'm just regurgitating my crypto journal notes for you. You and Stale never bother to ask. In 4 years on TGR in this thread you and every other 'investor' here never bothered to ask any vital questions about my involvement with crypto. You never asked why my initial posts when this thread started disappeared. You never asked about my work, education, experience as a dev, investment history or any other information that would have given you insight into where I am coming from.

    I should have expected that from people that DYOR about 'crypto' as if they have the chops to understand the world where SCIENCE and GAMING ENTREPRENEURSHIP meet.

    Welcome to Calvin Ayres world. To a world dominated by big as all fuck gaming magnates that are extracting every last cent from the working man with a smile while they dance on their Cayman island paradise getting blow jobs from fresh skin every fucking night.

    If you had just asked politely, nicely, even simply JUST ASKED, I would have been glad to share what I did a few pages back. I used to be DEEP in crypto.

    edit: I do care. I have a heart. But I also know too well that only 2% of people here will cash out, the other 98% fail. And you will never hear all about that because people don't share the losses like they share the fact that someone just financed their LAMBO in the game of Digital Beanie Baby Musical Chairs.

    I LOVE YOU ALL Especially shera!
    I really don't believe any of your bullshit anymore. To me you have and always will be a troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKPogue View Post
    I really don't believe any of your bullshit anymore. To me you have and always will be a troll.
    Not true. I am sincere. We probably won't ever have a good discussion though. I'll remind myself to not reply to you. Let me know if you would like to have a real-and-engaging discussion about Bitcoin and crypto if you ever change your mind.
    OH, MY GAWD! ―John Hillerman  Big Billie Eilish fan.
    But that's a quibble to what PG posted (at first, anyway, I haven't read his latest book) ―jono
    we are not arguing about ski boots or fashionable clothing or spageheti O's which mean nothing in the grand scheme ― XXX-er

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    Serious question

    can I go back in time?
    Hello darkness my old friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhelihiker View Post
    Serious question

    can I go back in time?
    And kill your father to see what would happen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhelihiker View Post
    Serious question

    can I go back in time?
    You first need to acquire a tic-tac. Then anything is possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhelihiker View Post
    Serious question

    can I go back in time?
    Dude.


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    Decent volume in new micro bitcoin futures on the CME.

    https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/equ...s_futures.html

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    China has banned financial institutions and payment companies from providing services related to cryptocurrency transactions, and warned investors against speculative crypto trading.

    It was China's latest attempt to clamp down on what was a burgeoning digital trading market. Under the ban, such institutions, including banks and online payments channels, must not offer clients any service involving cryptocurrency, such as registration, trading, clearing and settlement, three industry bodies said in a joint statement on Tuesday.

    "Recently, crypto currency prices have skyrocketed and plummeted, and speculative trading of cryptocurrency has rebounded, seriously infringing on the safety of people's property and disrupting the normal economic and financial order," they said in the statement.

    China has banned crypto exchanges and initial coin offerings but has not barred individuals from holding cryptocurrencies.

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    Hackers behind Colonial Pipeline attack reportedly received $90 million in bitcoin before shutting down

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skidog View Post
    when do we start seeing the massive investment in clean energy that Shitcoin is going to bring? I'll wait.
    Usually the clean energy comes online between $30.1K to $36.9K. That is the clean energy sweet spot.
    OH, MY GAWD! ―John Hillerman  Big Billie Eilish fan.
    But that's a quibble to what PG posted (at first, anyway, I haven't read his latest book) ―jono
    we are not arguing about ski boots or fashionable clothing or spageheti O's which mean nothing in the grand scheme ― XXX-er

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    So Bitcoin and the Doge both seem to be tanking harder than normal this morning.

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    Bitcoin....who's gotten into it?

    55% is the average correction high to low. Got to 50% so pretty close.

    Now is a good time for US regulators to step on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post

    Now is a good time for US regulators to step on it.
    What do you mean exactly?

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