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  1. #6451
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    Just waiting to snatch up the NFT of the AKC papers for the Shiba Inu from dogecoin, ticking the top on this whole fucking meta-meme economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byates1 View Post
    You guys are making my Bitcoin crater, quit it
    Hummus. Buy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyCarter View Post
    Just waiting to snatch up the NFT of the AKC papers for the Shiba Inu from dogecoin, ticking the top on this whole fucking meta-meme economy.
    mount it on the wall next to a JDSU ticker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    mount it on the wall next to a JDSU ticker.
    I wouldíve said IPET, but that works too.

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    Fluuuuusssshhhhhhh.

    Oooffff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalefish3169 View Post
    Fluuuuusssshhhhhhh.

    Oooffff.
    Flash crash! I yeeted and aped in at 45k. Moving so fast. All the alt coins tanking too. Lrc enjn Matic Avax

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    Some great prices out there to buy! Algo, ada, eth, everything really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byates1 View Post
    Some great prices out there to buy! Algo, ada, eth, everything really.
    Which begs the question - what makes a great price?
    Charlie, here comes the deuce. And when you speak of me, speak well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stu Gotz View Post
    Which begs the question - what makes a great price?
    That's a really really good question. After all, everything is relative

    "Even so, some are using this fall as an opportunity to ďbuy the dip.Ē El Salvador President Nayib Bukele, whose country holds bitcoin on its balance sheet and has purchased coins during previous dips, announced another purchase of 150 BTC for around $48,700 each."

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    El Salvador made an announcement for a $7M expenditure. Huh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stu Gotz View Post
    Which begs the question - what makes a great price?
    This 5 part series does a great job explaining how to form your own opinion on this if people honestly want to learn.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjDowddhAoQ

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    Thinking I should sell my van (for a profit) and buy some bitcoins. Then sell them in 2022 for another profit. I love gambling..I mean investing!

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    Plan C = Eat Moar Ranch
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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    El Salvador made an announcement for a $7M expenditure. Huh.
    Bukele is most definitely an authoritarian pumper using his Twitter account and the treasury of El Salvador to distract from the countries' many problems. It's a shame as the country and its people have so much potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalefish3169 View Post
    This 5 part series does a great job explaining how to form your own opinion on this if people honestly want to learn.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjDowddhAoQ

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    Ha. Yeah. I really donít. I bought one BTC coin last August. Thereís going to be more suckers than me and Iím going to retire early, or less and Iím going to lose my money. Simple as that.
    Charlie, here comes the deuce. And when you speak of me, speak well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stu Gotz View Post
    Ha. Yeah. I really don’t. I bought one BTC coin last August. There’s going to be more suckers than me and I’m going to retire early, or less and I’m going to lose my money. Simple as that.
    I'd be more than willing to take your coin coin off of your hands and nurture it like a rescue dog.
    Is it radix panax notoginseng? - splat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stu Gotz View Post
    Which begs the question - what makes a great price?
    Compared to 10 years from now. These are great prices.

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    ^^^ Did you park the DeLorean in the garage after your trip back to the future Doc?
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

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    What I don't understand, amongst many other things, is how Bitcoin would be used for transactions at say a coffee shop. This is also assuming that the price stabilized somewhat. You walk in for a cup and they say it's .0000834 please. I know it's all computerized, so the transaction doesn't really matter, but that's just fucked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw View Post
    lol
    With blockchain-based parametric insurance, real-world data automatically triggers payments to policyholders once predefined weather conditions occur, meaning no party can avoid its contractual obligations
    the tech will have grown up when people donít write bullshit like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    lol

    the tech will have grown up when people donít write bullshit like that.
    Explain it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustonen View Post
    The only accounting function solved is when it comes to shareholder distribution, though. Thatís a pretty tiny part of the overall accounting burden. Agreed that it can all be automated, but thereís nothing special about NFT here.

    The international investment is a cool angle, but the NFT can only enforce what it sees. Your hypothetical $1M of revenues is still entirely predicated on trust that all revenues are actually being accounted for in whatever blockchain is being used, or that all expenses are legitimate and appropriately bid, or that local regulations/taxes are being handled appropriately, and I donít see any obvious means that would provide visibility outside of the blockchain environment, itís just a massive false sense of security. Without regulation or third party audit or being local, you still donít know whatís going on in your PH investment property outside of the inputs being plugged in locally. I can see how itís a tool, but I canít see how itís any more than that and Iím still at a loss that it portends anything particularly disruptive or game changing, whatever game that is (accounting software? Thatís a small gameÖ. And it doesnít get bigger when you private label it with a blockchain).

    Honestly, and this sounds more incendiary than I mean it, it feels like the only game this is really changing is pulling things like apartment building investments into the crypto pyramid scheme. Which would explain some of the fervor around NFT.

    Also ETA: I completely support building cool new paradigms even if we donít understand how they might be truly useful in the future in a meaningful way. If thatís all weíre talking about, cool, letís nerd out. But I get puzzled when proponents try to tell me weíre already there.
    Sorry in advance for this being disjointed as the thread advances but you and I were having a cordial thought experiment and wanted to rejoin. In the spirit of nerding out

    1. Re accounting. I think I overreached. Or at least overreached based on existing tech

    - Most tenants will pay in fiat
    - Vendors/service providers will bill and be paid in fiat
    - "Shareholders"/ token holders can be paid in crypto via a digital wallet
    - I envision a multi signature digital wallet real-time updates with a treasury of some stablecoins where "shareholders" can continually monitor input/outputs and match expected "treasury" size so that their expected/projected returns match reality. But there's always one-off expenses for RE holdings. How to verify for that without getting into the same comparable mechanics of standard real world audits?

    Therefor i conclude that I can't think of a virtual smart-contract based mechanism that solves enough accounting issues to contribute more than a small savings

    2...Jurisdiction

    I think that's big. Many investors (speaking as someone on both buy and sell side) make that a substantial factor in risk. I won't touch Chinese or Indian jurisdiction venue opportunities because I know cost of remedies and likelihood of remedies is a substantial hurdle. Same goes for Marshall County of Texas for patents, Bermuda for financial instruments etc.

    I do agree about the pyramid scheme/Ponzi aspect (irrespective of my pontificating about all Fiat Currencies also being Ponzis viewed in the long timeframe context ). Smart contracts whether via Crypto tokens, rebase/reserve currency tokens, NFTs attract a lot of scams. However, this doesn't mean all of it is a scam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    lol

    the tech will have grown up when people donít write bullshit like that.
    It's VC finance bro and cringe inducing. Some/many have made the argument to me that insurance companies will be disrupted by smart contracts. I don't see why.

    That use case posted by jackstraw presented one example. But it's very mechanical and subject to failure. I've worked with vendors of aquatic water data. I mean... they strive to not have errors but errors happen. To solve those errors you need humans. Therefore costs. This new insurance will have to prove it is more efficient, more fair, easier to obtain, easier to administer and that any errors/mistakes can be solved without adding so much cost that it could not be solved via "old school" insurance. But it's definitely a useful application

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