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    Quote Originally Posted by MultiVerse View Post
    Exceptionalism? No country poses unique virtue. No enduring political society is without origins in violence. Every rich country has been involved in a great crime.

    The joke is believing BTC is somehow different.
    So why does one county get to have its currency as the world reserve? Do you think it has anything to do with their military spending multiples more on "defense" than the next 7 or so counties combined? Are you saying that because violence is the only thing we've ever known, we should just stick with it? Jesus, man. BTC and crypto are profound for their ability to reverse this trend through decentralization.

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    You really have to be careful of what you're hoping for.

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    For the umpteenth time... the USD is no longer the world's sole reserve currency. BTC is a bit (heh) player in the great game being played between the Euro, the Yuan, and the Dollar.


    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    You really have to be careful of what you're hoping for.
    Yeah, rooting for the dollar to fail is also rooting for a lot of people to get hurt. Even then, there's no guarantee BTC emerges a winner and if it does that's not much help for the small fish, only the whales win in that scenario.

    Meet your new whale overlords:

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    So why does one county get to have its currency as the world reserve?
    Ask yourself why any currency or container of value became a chosen world reserve, because people around the world have confidence in the stability of that reserve. It has nothing to do with conspiracies. At one time it was the Mark or the Pound or the Franc. The Ruble, not so much, the Yuan? It already is.
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    OH, MY GAWD! ―John Hillerman  Big Billie Eilish fan.
    But that's a quibble to what PG posted (at first, anyway, I haven't read his latest book) ―jono
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    Quote Originally Posted by puregravity View Post
    Yet our own CryptoContortionistTM, Stalefish, vehemently denies allegations stated in the article: "Bollocks. Buy. Bull."


    The floggings will continue until morale improves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meathelmet View Post
    CryptoContortionistTM
    What do you get when you cross breed a CryptoContortionist with a bunch of Russian circus performers?
    OH, MY GAWD! ―John Hillerman  Big Billie Eilish fan.
    But that's a quibble to what PG posted (at first, anyway, I haven't read his latest book) ―jono
    we are not arguing about ski boots or fashionable clothing or spageheti O's which mean nothing in the grand scheme ― XXX-er

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    The geriatric crowd sure is salty today.




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    It's the coffee. Wife picked me up some Starbucks Dark Roast (free from a friend). Tastes like burnt toast mixed with peat moss and discarded cigarette butts. Still has caffeine though!
    I just spotted the ETH gas rate lowest is 1 GWEI!!!! I'm gonna move some of my cryptokitties real fast!
    OH, MY GAWD! ―John Hillerman  Big Billie Eilish fan.
    But that's a quibble to what PG posted (at first, anyway, I haven't read his latest book) ―jono
    we are not arguing about ski boots or fashionable clothing or spageheti O's which mean nothing in the grand scheme ― XXX-er

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    Quote Originally Posted by puregravity View Post
    What do you get when you cross breed a CryptoContortionist with a bunch of Russian circus performers?
    Speculator capable of autofellatio?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalefish3169 View Post
    The geriatric crowd sure is salty today.




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    If "salty" is the same as pointing out your ignorance, willful or otherwise then call me Morton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stalefish3169 View Post
    You complain incessantly about BTC's energy usage. It's a peaceful protocol. Maybe you should post about the US Military being the world's largest polluter. Or maybe just go on believing the lie of American Exceptionalism. The rest of the world fears the countries you listed very little...they fear the US a lot.

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    I’m no hawk, but the US military is far from the largest polluter in the world. When you post things like this you display your ignorance and/or honesty. Energy, transportation and industry. Those are your largest polluters in the world.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Meathelmet View Post
    Speculator capable of autofellatio?
    Could! LOL. The official answer is "A Bitcoin conference!"
    OH, MY GAWD! ―John Hillerman  Big Billie Eilish fan.
    But that's a quibble to what PG posted (at first, anyway, I haven't read his latest book) ―jono
    we are not arguing about ski boots or fashionable clothing or spageheti O's which mean nothing in the grand scheme ― XXX-er

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn View Post
    I’m no hawk, but the US military is far from the largest polluter in the world. When you post things like this you display your ignorance and/or honesty. Energy, transportation and industry. Those are your largest polluters in the world.


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    What about farts?
    OH, MY GAWD! ―John Hillerman  Big Billie Eilish fan.
    But that's a quibble to what PG posted (at first, anyway, I haven't read his latest book) ―jono
    we are not arguing about ski boots or fashionable clothing or spageheti O's which mean nothing in the grand scheme ― XXX-er

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn View Post
    I’m no hawk, but the US military is far from the largest polluter in the world. When you post things like this you display your ignorance and/or honesty. Energy, transportation and industry. Those are your largest polluters in the world.


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    Go on and keep believing in unicorns if you want. But Uncle Sam is doing a whole lot of bad stuff. Maybe it's time for another type of money than the petrodollar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalefish3169 View Post
    Go on and keep believing in unicorns if you want. But Uncle Sam is doing a whole lot of bad stuff. Maybe it's time for another type of money than the petrodollar.

    https://weaversway.coop/shuttle-onli...ntPress%20News.

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    You’re like Trump. Just because you say or believe something doesn’t make it true. Of course the US military is doing “bad” stuff and they do pollute.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stalefish3169 View Post
    If you don't understand how important it is to remove the control of money from corrupt governments, you may want to reconsider your tactics.

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    As the mag who gets along well with everyone here, let me just say you have become the official Bitcoin Chicken Fucker.

    And on the latest page of this thread you continue to use the ‘let’s fix all the world’s problems before I will acknowledge the issues with Bitcoin’ lazy argument.

    It appears I’m way ahead of you in understanding the corrupt govt funding topic. Yet you have the temerity & lack of self awareness to post the above.

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    Stalefish dude, when you say things like the US military is the world's largest polluter, and the US government was trying to take over Ukraine it makes me doubt any other assertion you make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garyfromterrace View Post
    Stalefish dude, when you say things like the US military is the world's largest polluter, and the US government was trying to take over Ukraine it makes me doubt any other assertion you make.
    Who said anything about Ukraine?


    You dudes gonna refute an Ivy League study? Or is it solid enough evidence for you?


    https://theintercept.com/2019/09/15/...-military-war/


    "It may come as a surprise that the largest industrial military in the history of the world is also the single biggest polluter on the planet. A recent study from Brown University’s Costs of War project surfaced this startling fact: The U.S. Department of Defense has a larger annual carbon footprint than most countries on earth. With a sprawling network of bases and logistics networks, the U.S. military is the single biggest emitter of carbon dioxide in the world aside from whole nation-states themselves. “Indeed, the DOD is the world’s largest institutional user of petroleum and correspondingly, the single largest producer of greenhouse gases in the world,” the report notes."

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    Damn I miss Larson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stalefish3169 View Post
    Who said anything about Ukraine?


    You dudes gonna refute an Ivy League study? Or is it solid enough evidence for you?


    https://theintercept.com/2019/09/15/...-military-war/


    "It may come as a surprise that the largest industrial military in the history of the world is also the single biggest polluter on the planet. A recent study from Brown University’s Costs of War project surfaced this startling fact: The U.S. Department of Defense has a larger annual carbon footprint than most countries on earth. With a sprawling network of bases and logistics networks, the U.S. military is the single biggest emitter of carbon dioxide in the world aside from whole nation-states themselves. “Indeed, the DOD is the world’s largest institutional user of petroleum and correspondingly, the single largest producer of greenhouse gases in the world,” the report notes."

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    The US military in 2017 is supposed to have produced 58 million tons of CO2. In the entire period from 2001 to 2017 (16 years), it is said to have produced as total of 766 million metric tons *for all military operations*. So that includes wars.

    Bitcoin produced 22 million tons in 2019. Note that 2019 was a very low year for Bitcoin emissions because the price was low and hence the hashrate was low therefor the emissions were low. Probably a lot more in 2020 and now in 2021 (exponentially more). We are talking about 7 transactions per second snail-pace cypher-punk managed network with no practical use outside of financial gaming schemes. The usefulness of which doesn't even come close to a peaceful existence for us all in America or around the world.

    So I think your point is well taken, i.e. that the military is a polluter. However, you got lost somewhere in the perspective department in aisle 21. What's your point? That it is OK to pollute because the worlds biggest military does?
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    Quote Originally Posted by puregravity View Post
    Bitcoin produced 22 million tons in 2019. Note that 2019 was a very low year for Bitcoin emissions because the price was low and hence the hashrate was low therefor the emissions were low.
    Yeah, bitcoin energy consumption scales with the price. Based on numbers from earlier this year: when BTC was at $40,000 the bitcoin network consumes about 75 TWh annually and produces an estimated at 80 million metric tons of CO2. At around $57,000 the bitcoin network consumes 185 TWh per year and produces 90 million metric tons of CO2.

    If bitcoin were to ever reach the price predicted by bitcoiners it would easily become the biggest single polluter entity on the planet.
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    But it will solve the pollution problem and cure male pattern baldness - it just needs more time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalefish3169 View Post
    Who said anything about Ukraine?
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    You fucking did

    Quote Originally Posted by stalefish3169 View Post

    Instances of the United States overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government)

    Ukraine 2014 *

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    So then you call the US military the world's largest polluter.

    Quote Originally Posted by stalefish3169 View Post
    Maybe you should post about the US Military being the world's largest polluter.
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    Oh but wait, they're not really are they.

    Quote Originally Posted by stalefish3169 View Post
    the U.S. military is the single biggest emitter of carbon dioxide in the world aside from whole nation-states themselves.

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    So look, I'll say again you're posting bullshit. If you meant to say they're the largest emitter of carbon dioxide in the world aside from countries then say that. And, people smarter than me will review your source. Don't suggest the US was attempting to overthrow Ukraine, then say you didn't say that. That's what bull shitters do.
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