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11-22-2013, 03:45 PM #1Registered User
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Where to get lifters/risers for bindings
Hey all,
I am an ex-racer from the east coast and my race skiis would always come with lifters for the bindings. Now I am on the west coast (BC) and everytime I ask a ski shop about lifters they kind of get this blank look and say "why would you want to do that?"
I can't find lifters anywhere. I am looking for lifters for my Dynastar Pro XXLs 187 with PX18 bindings. Does anyone have advice for what to get and where to get such a thing as lifters for this setup?
*also interested in buying some if anyone is interested in selling*
Thanks
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11-22-2013, 03:49 PM #2Banned
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Why would you want them? You don't need them.
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11-22-2013, 03:52 PM #3
I think they are for getting high.
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11-22-2013, 04:07 PM #4
I have FKS lifters if that helps. Same as PX???
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11-22-2013, 04:08 PM #5Registered User
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thank you glademaster and meter-man for being so helpful
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11-22-2013, 04:08 PM #6Registered User
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yes! whyturn I will pm
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11-22-2013, 04:12 PM #7Forum Cross Pollinator, gratuitously strident
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11-22-2013, 05:18 PM #8439-0116
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I think the free gear thread over in Gear Swap has a lot of lifters. On a wide ski though, I really would like to know why...
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11-22-2013, 05:26 PM #9
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11-22-2013, 09:38 PM #10
Could always make some- take the bindings and trace the toe and heel pattern. Then get a lexan plastic sheet (even can use a cutting board) in the thickness you want to go above the ski and cut out the patterns with a saw.
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11-22-2013, 09:43 PM #11
There is ZERO point to putting risers on fat skis. Srsly. But rear entry boots...those suckers RAWK!!!
The whole reason for risers was the prevent boot-out on carving boards. When your skis are wider than your boots, it kinda takes care of that issue all on its own.Gravity. It's the law.
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11-24-2013, 01:02 AM #12
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11-24-2013, 02:46 AM #13
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11-24-2013, 07:56 AM #14Gravity. It's the law.
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11-24-2013, 08:43 AM #15
^^^^^^^^^guessing this is the reason the poster wants the risers. Ex-racer who wants to torque his fat boards.
Reason everyone is asking why would you do that is because that is not how you ski pow even though it may look that way in porn.
edit: if you want risers buy some DukesLast edited by cat in january; 11-24-2013 at 02:31 PM.
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11-24-2013, 01:32 PM #16Registered User
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If you want to make risers go to a plastics shop, I went to a big shop that sells big 4x8 sheets of the stuff to the local mills for industrial apps and they gave me scraps for like 10$ which they put in the coffee fund
doesn't using a riser make the lower leg into a longer lever ?
Archimedes said "give me a lever long enough and I will move the world" I'm guessing buddy was not a powder skier?Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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11-24-2013, 02:54 PM #17self proclaimed JONG!
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Yes and yes. I used to ski exclusively with risers on all my fat skis. It does make them turn better, livlier and quicker edge to edge. If you've raced you will appreciate this. And it does suck some stability out of your setup for sure. I am at the point now where turning is too much work and added stability helps so I've regressed back to flat mounts (although I do mount the odd pair with risers now if I have hole conflicts - turntable risers have different mount than the flat bindings).
As for PX risers, the FKS will work for your toe but NOT for your heel. Not sure that a PX lifter actually exists? Scavenge a plate off a haggered set of rossi/dynastar race skis and remount on your pow skis. That would be cool.Do what you like, Like what you do.
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11-24-2013, 03:54 PM #18
Whatever floats his boat I guess. He must have younger/less damaged knees and ankles than I do.
Gravity. It's the law.
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11-24-2013, 04:06 PM #19
Can't tell if this is serious. Risers on pow skis?? I'm an ex - FIS racer as well but can't imagine putting a riser on fat. Skis.
It would destroy the stability, no more slarving or flat base pivoting and cause increased edge pressure which in pow would led to hookiness and sinking. They would be grabby as fuck on groomers as well.
Don't do it. You're not a racer anyone and live in BC. Learn what cool shit fat skis can do without Risers.Flying the Bluehouse colors in Western Canada! Let me know if you want some rad skis!!
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11-24-2013, 04:34 PM #20
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11-24-2013, 05:12 PM #21
While I also don't see the need for risers I do believe your torque analogy is wrong. Moving your hand further up the pry bar (higher risers) increases the torque you input to the object you are prying (the ski) for each pound of force you put in. It is increasing torque to your advantage and requiring less effort to put the ski on edge. This is also what makes it twitchy, the ski reacts too much to small amounts of input.
The reason the wider skis make your knees sore is the same concept but in reverse....the skis lever is effectively getting longer and putting more torque on your knee.
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11-24-2013, 06:35 PM #22
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11-24-2013, 07:25 PM #23
Where do people come up with this bushwah?
Go tell the hundreds of people with Dynaduke plates that they can't possibly be skiing, because the combination puts them about 45mm off the ski.
I've skied fat skis with Rossi Scratch bindings (flat to the ski, <8mm) and with Dukes on plates (45mm). The lift makes traverses and hard edges less painful, as it's less torquey on the ankles. No interesting difference in slarvability, etc., because the total distance from your knee is only varying by perhaps 7%.
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11-24-2013, 08:16 PM #24Registered User
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i would bet a case of brown pops if there was a way to blind test a ski with a stack of riser vs none IN pow that nobody could tell the difference ...I think the idea that a skier will be more stable closer to the ski is all BS that somebody made up and everybody repeats
Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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11-24-2013, 11:33 PM #25Flying the Bluehouse colors in Western Canada! Let me know if you want some rad skis!!
"He is god of snow; the one called Ullr. Son of Sif, step son of Thor. He is so fierce a bowman and ski-runner that none may contend! He is quite beautiful to look upon and has all the characteristics of a warrior. It is wise to invoke the name of Ullr in duels!"
-The Gylfaginning
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