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Thread: is the Search worth it?
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11-14-2013, 04:20 PM #26
Decent topic for discussion. I think for most people, a mix of the adventure and the local is the reality. Except for a very small group of professional athletes, big, remote, off-the-map trips are the exception. Everything is relative. Maybe for Jeremy Jones escape is being tucked away in his cabin away from the cameras and choppers that are his job. I don't know, but one man's escape is another man's prison, right?
And good escapades can be found anywhere, with anyone. I'm pretty sure I remember a good adventure with you, cmcrawfo, booting around the Asulkan ridge a couple years ago. Although it was the ill-advised descent route that caused the adventure!
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11-14-2013, 04:23 PM #27
This is all up to personal opinion. For some it is, for others it isn't. Me, I want to get deep in the world. I want to explore and see the outer reaches. I want to go where not many have. I want to do this locally and globally. The search is absolutely worth it to me.
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11-14-2013, 04:38 PM #28Hugh Conway Guest
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11-14-2013, 04:55 PM #29
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11-14-2013, 05:02 PM #30
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11-14-2013, 05:05 PM #31Hugh Conway Guest
bullshit. maybe if you define "climbed" as "english speaking white dudes from america". not that it's truly used up, just that most places someone's been there. they just might not have gopro'd, blog'd and sponsored their ass there. Jesus, people lap up the bwana safari explorer bullshit about Gulmarg; regular people (or at least as regular as rich Anglo's were) were skiing there in the 20s and 30s. A best selling murder mystery was set there.
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11-14-2013, 05:07 PM #32Funky But Chic
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11-14-2013, 05:18 PM #33
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11-14-2013, 05:23 PM #34
Getting off topic, so I'll try and steer it back.
The adventure is where you find it. Every climb, or ski run, or dive, or base jump is a single, unique event, so exploration and adventure should be virtually unlimited.
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11-14-2013, 05:31 PM #35
What about every time I gamble and lose on a fart?
Talk about an adventure...try that shit on an airplane
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11-14-2013, 05:39 PM #36Hugh Conway Guest
unless you are in the Yukon or Tibet or maybe usushaia (dunno anymore), doubtful < shrug > not saying it's not fun or whatever you find, just it's hard to say you were the first to climb it anymore. especially if it's legal and accessible. like looking for a ski area that's genuinely steep, tall, deep, cheap and uncrowded anymore. There's a relatively short list.
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11-14-2013, 05:46 PM #37Forum Cross Pollinator, gratuitously strident
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11-14-2013, 05:51 PM #38
I'm in British Columbia, and I still think I'm right, but I get your point and it's a fair one. A lot of the peaks in question are non-descript, with little redeeming value from a climbing or skiing perspective, especially when difficulty of access is taken into account. I just thought it was a bit much to say (not by you) that the earth is played out as far as adventure and exploration goes.
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11-14-2013, 06:20 PM #39
If you are in BC, it goes without saying that you have to travel....
for Tacos.
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11-15-2013, 12:44 AM #40
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11-15-2013, 08:17 AM #41
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11-15-2013, 09:52 AM #42Banned
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11-15-2013, 10:20 AM #43Registered User
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The vids lead me to believe the exact opposite actually. Those guys aren't going halfway around the world to explore, they are going where they know the snow/terrain will be good. They do their research beforehand.
I think there is actually more exploring to be had out your back door.. Especially if you live in BC. You can go into zones that no one has skied or has a clue about.
Pure gold, thank you.
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11-15-2013, 11:43 AM #44
I don't see that as remotely being true.
Same essential thing, and there have been people doing this for skiing since the thirties. It's just a symbiotic zeitgeist, happening to occur simultaneously as our nation came into a middle class culture where travel and leisure time was permissible.Forum Cross Pollinator, gratuitously strident
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11-15-2013, 12:11 PM #45Hugh Conway Guest
of course you wouldn't. 20s/30s (earlier, really) ski literature and attitudes weren't at all surf like and weren't for "the search". that's later, much later.
most of ski fashion and attitude in the past 20 years is directly lifted from surf marketing. Well, mostly lifted from snowboarding who just lifted it from surfing.
now wendy will tell us how he was a big deal and interesting despite all evidence to the contrary
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11-15-2013, 12:20 PM #46
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11-15-2013, 12:22 PM #47Hugh Conway Guest
you can read a book just as well as I can. I said "books literature" because I wasn't alive then. And most of those people are dead. One thing to say might be that "skiing" wasn't a narrow focused activity in the same way it is now with the same affinity based subculture. Prior to lifts you had to tour to get turns; many of the good skiers were accomplished mountaineers. Many were rich; some were poor paesants. Most of them are long dead. anyways, sorry for the bitter cynicism, here's a few bits from Ernie:
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ow-E-Hemingway
"the search" as a marketing campaign for RipCurl is "the perfect wave". skiing doesn't have waves, as such; it's why "the search" for skiing is just bankrupt lifted bullshit; wendy likes bullshit.
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11-15-2013, 12:47 PM #48
cmcrawfo sounds like he has a dog named Bodhi or Ganja.
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11-15-2013, 12:54 PM #49
Fair enough. Perhaps the term "the search" was inappropriately applied. But if we consider the search, to be a hunt, and exploration process, and adventure, well beyond your back yard ... then perhaps we can translate it more easily to skiing?
in that, is it worth it to spend your time and money going from place to place, looking for the perfect run or the best snow or the biggest line ... or are true rewards more often found on our home fronts?"Its not the arrow, its the Indian" - M.Pinto
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11-15-2013, 01:05 PM #50
Huh?
I had thought the search was it's own reward.
The 'search' doesn't have to span the globe; it can be out your back door, running round your mind or just trying to ski an old favorite differently.
It's worth it for sure, but the worth is self relative.Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
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