Verbier Off-Piste

[enalgc]

I will be in Verbier Dec 29th - Jan 3rd with 3 other friends (advanced) and am looking for someone who lives there or knows the area to ski with on and off-piste. We are all 28-30 years old.

[subtle plague]

I will be in Verbier Dec 29th - Jan 3rd with 3 other friends (advanced) and am looking for someone who lives there or knows the area to ski with on and off-piste. We are all 28-30 years old.

you will have an awesome time bro!
Have you considered cham or the arlberg?

Seriosly though why is it that Americans tend either to be totally clueless or even worse, like the guy from the red ski journal with seth morrisson on it who gives away little secret spots in switzerland in the photo section. To be honest its the swiss photog's fault because he gave the ski journal the location in teh first place, but still: why don't they even ask themselves why they have never ever heard of that area the photo has been shot in and whether it is a good idea to reveal it. Fortunately that area sucks anyway because the "lift served" is littered with a nasty cliff band so I don't bother going there.

Or the guy from meathead films who had a blast in some part of switzerland in 11/12 I think and keeps bragging about it with details in his videothread.
And no I don't start a new thread. I will use yours because yours is crap.

[Buster Highmen]

Seriosly though why is it that Americans tend either to be totally clueless or even worse, like the guy from the red ski journal with seth morrisson on it who gives away little secret spots in switzerland in the photo section. To be honest its the swiss photog's fault because he gave the ski journal the location in teh first place, but still: why don't they even ask themselves why they have never ever heard of that area the photo has been shot in and whether it is a good idea to reveal it. Fortunately that area sucks anyway because the "lift served" is littered with a nasty cliff band so I don't bother going there.

Or the guy from meathead films who had a blast in some part of switzerland in 11/12 I think and keeps bragging about it with details in his videothread.
And no I don't start a new thread. I will use yours because yours is crap.

So what's your point? Americans are by and large clueless fucks or that ski photogs shouldn't publish your secret spots?
Yes, people tend to herd in unknown places. Yuros do it too in the US to some extent (all I got yabbled at about in Yurpeein bars in Am@ and E-berg was Jackson Hole who the local drunks were sure was better than either spot)

OK, so Americans are uniquely bad at this, raised on strict diets of McDonalds and NFL, major plague sport droning and a laughably shallow and indistinct political arena where all the players are on the same side but posture as well as possible to maintain divisions among the threat.

But I don't get your point about the photogs who might potentially inform a few of the semicognizant of the purity and perfection of your secret Your A Peein ski spots like Arolla, Champex, Bivio, Marecottes, Grimentz/Zinal(with new Cable car this year), Grachen, Val Frejus/Cenis, Meiringen - Hasliberg etc?

I will likely be off peest somewhere in Yurp sometime. I look forward to your company and offer mine here in the dumb ol USA.

[Hugh Conway]

Why do flatland Euro's brag about some secret island off the coast of Sumatra and how much better it is than everything else ever for surfing?

the ski people do it because they have to sell some simulacrum of reality to the poor rubes lapping up their mostly stokeless bullshit so the ski people can "live the dream brah"

[Arno]

Excellent rants all round chaps. Keep up the good work

[Hugh Conway]

I wish someone would just post this article anytime someone asks for advice on the Haute Route, or the alps in general:
http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/...pine-notebook/

[Buster Highmen]

Excellent rants all round chaps. Keep up the good work

I do try to be a good mirror.

[subtle plague]

Buster: I didn't mean to say anything about the "stupid Americans" in general (yeah ok it sounded that way..Actually I like the US and their citizens even more than I did before my trip there because Bellingham has been a great place.), but the guys who should know it better. Like magazines. I know that this can be even worse when someone says "secret spot" beneath a photo and that someone somewhere has to point out that HE or SHE knows where it is on the internet doesn't solve the problem either. It is just that I thought that people tend to be more careless about places they do not go to that often....which is kind of unfair for those who ski there.
I really enjoy the clueless guys.....it just got a bit repetitive and I'm sitting here sick.So I tend to be grumpy.

and lord king of the never skiing: I did not brag about those islands of the coast of sumatra, I inquired, albeit after a long search to find any normal info. Which I did on a ski site with an obscure side forum because I would not ask that on a surfing message board. But I do get your point. I did not reveal anything in the recommendation thread you still seem to be pissed about. Is it because you like to be right or because you envy my pow days quota?

[Buster Highmen]

So you're felling shitty?
OK, please accept my best wishes.

But regarding photos, I think it's a requirement of The Ski Journal. They're pretty fastidious about documenting the picture locales. Where was it again? ;-).

I empathize with the loss of secret spots. It's happened here too believe it or not. We just have to try to seek out new frontiers.

I'll expect you to be well soon so you can show me around, OK?

[Hugh Conway]

and lord king of the never skiing: I did not brag about those islands of the coast of sumatra, I inquired, albeit after a long search to find any normal info. Which I did on a ski site with an obscure side forum because I would not ask that on a surfing message board. But I do get your point. I did not reveal anything in the recommendation thread you still seem to be pissed about. Is it because you like to be right or because you envy my pow days quota?

Pissed? Only at the hypocrisy. While the overpriced Swill journal (didn't renew after it took 2 years to get 4 mostly stoke free issues, will never subscribe again) may have revealed some "secret" of the Alps there's nothing there that hasn't been trod over or skiied over before. Manytimes over. Come on. It's not our fault the nordic countries have overinflated currencies so the hordes of clueless scanditrash who can't find anything without a magazine article are out there (prize memory of the be-Sweet'd hordes appearing in daddies Audi). Whereas Sumatra was -really - the frontier a couple decades ago. And is ruthlessly exploited for the benefit of a few and hordes of flatland tourists who'd never surf without the internet. Like all of the crappy central-Euro trash 3rd world surf camp experiences that wouldn't be without the internet.

[PNWbrit]

I wish someone would just post this article anytime someone asks for advice on the Haute Route, or the alps in general:
http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/...pine-notebook/

^ that's awesome.

[subtle plague]

So you're felling shitty?
OK, please accept my best wishes.


I'll expect you to be well soon so you can show me around, OK?

thanks. And I do might have something up my sleeve if you show up here (I would even show around hugh because I usually enjoy his post. Although he knows everything and hates everyone )
btw. xxx looks like an onpiste Autobahn after each snowfall because it is some kind easy touring mecca.

edit: huh.. this is too fast for me:
nice story indeed. And hugh believe it or not I started surfing before the internet. And I still consider myself a tourist.
I am aware of the dilemma that I am part of the third wave (1st: the crazy eyed australian living in the jungle, second: his best mates and some guys sleeping in the local fishermen's huts, third: the people who come there after the Australian turnd 35 and tried to settle down with a surf camp )

[Buster Highmen]

thanks. And I do might have something up my sleeve if you show up here (I would even show around hugh because I usually enjoy his post. Although he knows everything and hates everyone )
btw. xxx looks like an onpiste Autobahn after each snowfall because it is some kind easy touring mecca.

Cool, as long as you don't show me your armpit even though it's up your sleeve. I've seen enough armpits.
Yeah, Hugh and I have some sketchy plans to barf in the Badrutts Palace bar one of these days.

[Hugh Conway]

I said "never surf without". Because without it and the info - and the weather forecasts - it's pretty fucking hard to surf unless you live close enough to surf everyday or you've lots of time on your hands and ime/imo before the web the quality of surf info out there for most everything was prehistoric (including California - which had a couple dated guidebooks and the surfreport reprints from surfer and that was it, now you can find pretty much every scrap of coast documented somewhere on the web if you are looking.) .

edit: now that would be a funny impromptu summit Buster

[subtle plague]

Cool, as long as you don't show me your armpit even though it's up your sleeve. .

I'd do it "holes style" 1:57.

[Buster Highmen]

Great book.

[Buster Highmen]

edit: now that would be a funny impromptu summit Buster

Yeah, but the damn reservation system and 5k/night kind of get in the way.

[Hugh Conway]

oh, I didn't think about staying there they've let slobs like me walk into the bar and ogle the idle rich. the sunny bar @ the Kulm is an even funnier straight from the Jazz age posh scene. Or at least someplace where cricket sweaters aren't ironic and Champagne and cigarettes are everywhere.

[Buster Highmen]

And here I thought that Badrutts was a first class establishment that would run the likes of me off the property on first sight.

[Big Tim]

I will be in Verbier Dec 29th - Jan 3rd with 3 other friends (advanced) and am looking for someone who lives there or knows the area to ski with on and off-piste. We are all 28-30 years old.

Go to the Pub Monte Forte. Hang at the dart board. Don't be a douche. Buy some rounds. People might tell you where to go and maybe even take you.

[Buster Highmen]

you will have an awesome time bro!
Have you considered cham or the yarlberg?
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This Yarlberg; is that where Eddie Veder skis?

[Hicks]

The resort is a f***ing zoo during the period mentioned, you might want to look at the smaller resorts nearby. Just saying.

[freak]

interesting turn of the thread here. the usual "clueless american goes to verbier/engelberg/st. anton" threads develop different, mainly. or well, guess i stopped reading those...

and lord king of the never skiing

wasnt that YOUR official title?

freak~[&]

[jumpturn]

I will be in Verbier Dec 29th - Jan 3rd with 3 other friends (advanced) and am looking for someone who lives there or knows the area to ski with on and off-piste. We are all 28-30 years old.

Just hire a guide.

That's how seth morrison got up our 55 degree pow stash. Works for him. supports the local pow whore, and as beni maybe you'll learn some mountaineering skills, like skiing, avy & crevasse rescue.

Plus you should get to jump sick lines at verbier.

[Mulletizer]

Yeah, Hugh and I have some sketchy plans to barf in the Badrutts Palace bar one of these days.

If I were in the Palace bar I'd be too busy drooling to barf. Seriously, that place has the most beautiful whores I've seen anywhere. Some of the most beautiful women I've seen full stop. Damn, the mammaries.

Hugh, the Sunny Bar is where the Cresta crowd go for lunch after tobogganing. They're a funny looking bunch but very hospitable if you are enthusiastic about riding down a mountain on a 150lb metal tray.

Now, a night at Dracula's, that's something special. That is a really fun place. Happens to be at the top of the Olympic bob track. Many a waiter's tray has been purloined for an impromptu sled ride. Though I don't know if it is the same since Gunter Sachs (the owner) killed himself...

If you go to any of these establishments I strongly advise doing it on someone else's dime.