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  1. #826
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    Fuck this thread SLAPS!

    Thanks for bringing the stoke.


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  2. #827
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickwm21 View Post
    I bought my 196s as a big day ski. I figured I would ski then once or twice a season, when there is 2 feet of fresh and the top is open, or, if I ever get that opportunity to climb in a heli. I thought the skis would be too much to handle if there was less than a foot of snow. I thought they would be too long for lower mountain trees on storm days. I thought I would have to go to the car at lunch to trade out planks due to skied out conditions.

    I was wrong.

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    6 years later... same planks... same opinion... still haven’t climbed in a heli....


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  3. #828
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    Take em out in their natural habitat, deep pow, and the tune don’t matter.
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  4. #829
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    Wow... um.... ok then, detune from 6in infront of and behind the binding, fatter the ski the duller they get. Sharp edges on a pow day cause you MIGHT encounter ice? Learn to use what edges you have?


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  5. #830
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    Praxis Protest..just how cool is it?

    I have my 187 protests mounted at -2.5 and sharpened underfoot, detuned a few inches past the contact points and they ski great in anything boot deep or more. Don’t over complicate it!

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  7. #832
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    Some joey low post beater jong from Vermont is talking shit about ski technique? Fuck outa hereya.

    All of the most technically proficient/capable skiers I know grew up skiing in the northeast. I would defer to a New Englander on ski technique/tuning over someone from almost any other part of the US. Similar to how Alta skiers make better powder turns than skiers from anywhere else in the US.

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  8. #833
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    truth....

  9. #834
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    Meh.....

  10. #835
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickwm21 View Post
    6 years later... same planks... same opinion... still haven’t climbed in a heli....
    Fucking love this
    Fear, Doubt, Disbelief, you have to let it all go. Free your mind!

  11. #836
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    Edges don’t do anything in powder.

  12. #837
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    Summer purchase arrived and mounted. 192 Protest w Praxis Tattoo Maple Topsheet. Enduro Flex 4 w Carbon. Mounted -1 w Pivot 15s.

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  13. #838
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    veneers with gold pivots

    nice

  14. #839
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    Schweet!

  15. #840
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    hotness

  16. #841
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    Love that topsheet
    Common sense. So rare today in America it's almost like having a superpower.

  17. #842
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    Interested in the protest

    Do people prefer rocker/camber/rocker or full rocker with the protest?

  18. #843
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    Quote Originally Posted by ma2713 View Post
    Do people prefer rocker/camber/rocker or full rocker with the protest?
    I have never skied a continuous curves/full rocker protest so can’t comment there. I do own 188’s and 192’s. The 188’s are a tad looser due to 1mm maybe of camber and a much straighter sidecut underfoot. I think the lack of side cut is why they are looser. I spoke with Keith about the change in the camber as well as the side cut radius from the older gen 1 188 to the latest versions of the 187/192. He said he made the changes due to people complaining about lack of groomer performance and ability to make it back to the lifts, fuckin beaters. I wish people would understand that this is a powder ski and the 188 makes it back just fine, albeit with giant turns. I have zero issue with it hooking up in soft groomers, just need to make 50+m turns.
    With all of that said my 192s have a little bit better firm snow performance and are almost as loose and Drifty as my 188. The 188 pivots just a tad easier as well. The 192 is still a really bitchen pow ski and gets loose and pivots just fine. I’m really splitting a red pussy hair here.
    I’m not sure a CC protest would be much fun on a groomer or would offer a whole lot more pow performance. Maybe I’m very wrong. I wish Keith would build a new protest on the old dimensions.

  19. #844
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    Quote Originally Posted by ma2713 View Post
    Do people prefer rocker/camber/rocker or full rocker with the protest?
    I haven't skied a full rocker either but I own a 192 Protest. Seems to have pretty minimal camber. Favorite ski ever, would hesitate to f with it

    Edit: Like others have said in this thread. If you want full rocker, go with the powder boards, that shape was designed for full rocker where as the protest was designed to have some camber. Keith is a great ski builder, once again, don't f wit it

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  20. #845
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    How much snow are you guys busting out your Protests in inbounds...

    Seems like the number goes down the longer you spend on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyosha_SP View Post
    How much snow are you guys busting out your Protests in inbounds...

    Seems like the number goes down the longer you spend on them.
    You can have a good day on them if there is 6”+ of new snow.


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  22. #847
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    I've been touring on my 187's:

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    Yes, they ski powder remarkably well, but what really amazes me is how handle snow that has seen a little too much sun or wind: They turn it back in to powder. They're heavy, but it's worth it for meadow skipping on mediocre snow, which is what is on the menu so far this season around here.

  23. #848
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    Skied my OG flat (CCR?) 188s today in about a foot of heavy fresh slop at Hyak today. While many people where flailing around and getting exhausted and stuck, had no problems on these things. Effortless in that stuff, can't imagine a better ski in these conditions when still having to get back to a lift.

    I've unfortunately never ridden the current 128 underfoot version with a bit of camber but I can't believe they'd be better than these in the conditions today. If I was getting a new custom pair I'd definitely consider going without camber

  24. #849
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    They are if built in a 4flex. My 188’s are maybe a tad looser than my 192 4 flex but due to the flex 4 are better at hauling ass through pow, chop and heavy snow. Stock flex is to soft in the tip imho. Still a super fun ride as I skied my 188’s yesterday, wished I had the 192’s tho but still had a great time until the snow got pretty skied up.

  25. #850
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    If I get another pair of Protests, I’d go CCR.


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