Fuck this thread SLAPS!
Thanks for bringing the stoke.
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Fuck this thread SLAPS!
Thanks for bringing the stoke.
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Wow... um.... ok then, detune from 6in infront of and behind the binding, fatter the ski the duller they get. Sharp edges on a pow day cause you MIGHT encounter ice? Learn to use what edges you have?
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I have my 187 protests mounted at -2.5 and sharpened underfoot, detuned a few inches past the contact points and they ski great in anything boot deep or more. Don’t over complicate it!
The kind of protesting I approve![]()
All of the most technically proficient/capable skiers I know grew up skiing in the northeast. I would defer to a New Englander on ski technique/tuning over someone from almost any other part of the US. Similar to how Alta skiers make better powder turns than skiers from anywhere else in the US.
Coombs was a Masshole.
Last edited by glademaster; 09-07-2020 at 08:16 AM.
truth....
Meh.....
Edges don’t do anything in powder.
veneers with gold pivots
nice
Schweet!
hotness
Love that topsheet
Common sense. So rare today in America it's almost like having a superpower.
Do people prefer rocker/camber/rocker or full rocker with the protest?
I have never skied a continuous curves/full rocker protest so can’t comment there. I do own 188’s and 192’s. The 188’s are a tad looser due to 1mm maybe of camber and a much straighter sidecut underfoot. I think the lack of side cut is why they are looser. I spoke with Keith about the change in the camber as well as the side cut radius from the older gen 1 188 to the latest versions of the 187/192. He said he made the changes due to people complaining about lack of groomer performance and ability to make it back to the lifts, fuckin beaters. I wish people would understand that this is a powder ski and the 188 makes it back just fine, albeit with giant turns. I have zero issue with it hooking up in soft groomers, just need to make 50+m turns.
With all of that said my 192s have a little bit better firm snow performance and are almost as loose and Drifty as my 188. The 188 pivots just a tad easier as well. The 192 is still a really bitchen pow ski and gets loose and pivots just fine. I’m really splitting a red pussy hair here.
I’m not sure a CC protest would be much fun on a groomer or would offer a whole lot more pow performance. Maybe I’m very wrong. I wish Keith would build a new protest on the old dimensions.
I haven't skied a full rocker either but I own a 192 Protest. Seems to have pretty minimal camber. Favorite ski ever, would hesitate to f with it
Edit: Like others have said in this thread. If you want full rocker, go with the powder boards, that shape was designed for full rocker where as the protest was designed to have some camber. Keith is a great ski builder, once again, don't f wit it
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Last edited by brundo; 11-19-2020 at 02:50 PM.
How much snow are you guys busting out your Protests in inbounds...
Seems like the number goes down the longer you spend on them.
I've been touring on my 187's:
Yes, they ski powder remarkably well, but what really amazes me is how handle snow that has seen a little too much sun or wind: They turn it back in to powder. They're heavy, but it's worth it for meadow skipping on mediocre snow, which is what is on the menu so far this season around here.
Skied my OG flat (CCR?) 188s today in about a foot of heavy fresh slop at Hyak today. While many people where flailing around and getting exhausted and stuck, had no problems on these things. Effortless in that stuff, can't imagine a better ski in these conditions when still having to get back to a lift.
I've unfortunately never ridden the current 128 underfoot version with a bit of camber but I can't believe they'd be better than these in the conditions today. If I was getting a new custom pair I'd definitely consider going without camber
They are if built in a 4flex. My 188’s are maybe a tad looser than my 192 4 flex but due to the flex 4 are better at hauling ass through pow, chop and heavy snow. Stock flex is to soft in the tip imho. Still a super fun ride as I skied my 188’s yesterday, wished I had the 192’s tho but still had a great time until the snow got pretty skied up.
If I get another pair of Protests, I’d go CCR.
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