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  1. #576
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    Picked up some 187's on here, awaiting their arrival. Couldn't pass them up. 2200 grams per ski, the conundrum is do I mount them alpine and make them my inbounds soft ski or go Shifts/Vipec/Tecton for Japan next winter. I had every intention of picking up 184 Benchetlers (1700g) for Japan inbounds/touring. Now I've just confused myself. Irregardless, I look forward to them.

  2. #577
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    Insert them for both?

  3. #578
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    I vote touring binders! They're fun and capable inbounds, but they are just unreal outside the ropes... You could go Shift and split the diff of course.
    sproing!

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  4. #579
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    Tectons.

  5. #580
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    Extra weight worth it I suppose?!

    It's been almost a decade since I skied Japan, most of our skins were pretty short so I'm guess it won't be a huge deal.

  6. #581
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    Skiíd the Star in some sierra cement today, and the protests delivered again. My absolute favorite ski.

  7. #582
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    Quote Originally Posted by snapt View Post
    Extra weight worth it I suppose?!

    It's been almost a decade since I skied Japan, most of our skins were pretty short so I'm guess it won't be a huge deal.
    Well, you might expend 10% more energy on the uphill, but you'll reap the benefits of 50% easier downhill shredz. Those are exact numbers proven by science, and guaranteed to result in faceshots, woot'in, and STOKE>

    I'm moderately in shape, and have managed skinning 4-7k vert 7 days in a row with 2100g Protests and Kingpins (those fronted by two full days at Kicking Horse). Go Tecton, and you're lighter than that, and with binders that wont explode if you look at em funny.
    sproing!

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  8. #583
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    Quote Originally Posted by meter-man View Post
    Well, you might expend 10% more energy on the uphill, but you'll reap the benefits of 50% easier downhill shredz. Those are exact numbers proven by science, and guaranteed to result in faceshots, woot'in, and STOKE>

    I'm moderately in shape, and have managed skinning 4-7k vert 7 days in a row with 2100g Protests and Kingpins (those fronted by two full days at Kicking Horse). Go Tecton, and you're lighter than that, and with binders that wont explode if you look at em funny.
    What lodge did you go to?

  9. #584
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    Quote Originally Posted by hercule33 View Post
    What lodge did you go to?
    GAH - Sunrise one year and Vista the next. HIGHLY recommended!
    sproing!

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  10. #585
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    These skis rock. You guys werent kidding about them wanting to go fast. Finally got them in the right conditions this weekend and they rip. Super intuitive and I felt like I could ski them as centered as I want. So awesome.
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  11. #586
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    Quote Originally Posted by snapt View Post
    Picked up some 187's on here, awaiting their arrival. Couldn't pass them up. 2200 grams per ski, the conundrum is do I mount them alpine and make them my inbounds soft ski or go Shifts/Vipec/Tecton for Japan next winter. I had every intention of picking up 184 Benchetlers (1700g) for Japan inbounds/touring. Now I've just confused myself. Irregardless, I look forward to them.
    I took my 196s to Japan and didnít regret it once. I had shifts on mine and it was fine. We did one tour longer then 30 min and I wished I had a lighter setup, but on the way down I was really happy I dragged my Protests up there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by skibrd View Post
    I took my 196s to Japan and didn’t regret it once. I had shifts on mine and it was fine. We did one tour longer then 30 min and I wished I had a lighter setup, but on the way down I was really happy I dragged my Protests up there.


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    ditto. So impressed with the ski. Im definitely ordering the carbon enduro over the summer. Heres a shot of protests slaying Japow 2019.Click image for larger version. 

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  13. #588
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    Why not just go UL+veneer?

  14. #589
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    Quote Originally Posted by skibrd View Post
    I took my 196s to Japan and didnít regret it once. I had shifts on mine and it was fine. We did one tour longer then 30 min and I wished I had a lighter setup, but on the way down I was really happy I dragged my Protests up there.


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    Hey Bird, btw you were right about the snow in Japan. Snow was so light and deep could of had a noodle or plank, 95 or 135 underfoot, doubt it would have made too much of a difference. Brought my OG Spurs, was great most of the time. Might have been a bit overkill but was nice to have something that rips long arcs on groomers too, plenty of that to be found. If and when I go back, probably will bring something a little mellower in the flex department and around 115 or so though. Lighter too, Spurs wore out my legs pretty good after 7 straight days.

  15. #590
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    Quote Originally Posted by lrn2swim View Post
    Hey Bird, btw you were right about the snow in Japan. Snow was so light and deep could of had a noodle or plank, 95 or 135 underfoot, doubt it would have made too much of a difference. Brought my OG Spurs, was great most of the time. Might have been a bit overkill but was nice to have something that rips long arcs on groomers too, plenty of that to be found. If and when I go back, probably will bring something a little mellower in the flex department and around 115 or so though. Lighter too, Spurs wore out my legs pretty good after 7 straight days.
    Yep, you can go with Blizzard Bonafides or DPS Spoons, doesnít matter because the skiing is easy. I think next time if I go with a 1 ski quiver, it will be around 115mm, give or take a bit. If I go back with two skis, the Protests with CAST 2.0 will definitely come and then something between 100 and 110mm with a tech binding. Two skis would be a luxury, because Iím pretty sure I could go with just Bonafides and be just fine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by skibrd View Post
    Yep, you can go with Blizzard Bonafides or DPS Spoons, doesnít matter because the skiing is easy. I think next time if I go with a 1 ski quiver, it will be around 115mm, give or take a bit. If I go back with two skis, the Protests with CAST 2.0 will definitely come and then something between 100 and 110mm with a tech binding. Two skis would be a luxury, because Iím pretty sure I could go with just Bonafides and be just fine.


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    Interdasting ó very interdasting

    Were you there doing the dry spell? Seems like my 189 billygoat might be perfect.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiLyft View Post
    Interdasting ó very interdasting

    Were you there doing the dry spell? Seems like my 189 billygoat might be perfect.


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    We had 3 days, out of 14, with out any new snow, the Protests were fine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiLyft View Post
    Interdasting — very interdasting
    Were you there doing the dry spell? Seems like my 189 billygoat might be perfect.
    Quote Originally Posted by skibrd View Post
    We had 3 days, out of 14, with out any new snow, the Protests were fine.
    Was at several different areas around Nagano for 8 days last month, knee deep minimum every day, often much much more. Had one day that was chin deep (5 or 6ft of snow overnight). OG Spurs, Protests, Spoons, Bonafides, Enforcers, Soul 7's, anything would have been great. For fun I even tried out my GF's 169 La Nina's and a pair of '19 Bent Chets 176 for half a day and it was awesome too. Snow was so soft and light, no way you could float on top. Seriously, I'd worry more about groomer and tight tree performance than powder.

  19. #594
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    Praxis Protest..just how cool is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by lrn2swim View Post
    Soul 7's
    Well should have never doubted that soul7s crushed. After all they are known to be the pinnacle of ski design.

    Jokes aside - great beta

    Thanks



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  20. #595
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiLyft View Post
    Well should have never doubted that soul7s crushed. After all they are known to be the pinnacle of ski design.

    Jokes aside - great beta
    I know, EVEN SOUL 7's probably would have been really great (never skied a pair but I'm guessing)

  21. #596
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    I took 192 GPOís w carbon. Seemed to be damn near perfect choice.


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    I rip the groomed on tele gear

  22. #597
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    Check it out:

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    192 Protest Flex 3 with Bubinga Baby! veneer topsheet.
    Infused with the ghost of Beetleguese!

    Better pic with friends:

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    Mmmm, bookmatched-woodgrain-topsheet-rorschach-eyegasm!

    In search of the elusive artic powder weasel ...

  23. #598
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    Praxis Protest..just how cool is it?

    Siiiick!!!
    Welcome to the club.
    You get my PM? My pm machine hasnít been working properly.

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    That is pretty fuckn dope.
    PE, Mechanical Engineering
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    Siiiick!!!
    Welcome to the club.
    You get my PM? My pm machine hasn’t been working properly.
    I did, thank you.
    I knew if I reached out for quiver-enlargement-justification, you would be there for me.
    No need, but much want.

    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    That is pretty fuckn dope.
    I really wanted to buy these when they hit block last season (?) but didn't have the scratch.
    In search of the elusive artic powder weasel ...

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