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08-20-2013, 11:52 AM #1
What the hell are we turning into?!?!?
What the fuck is going on in the world? Have things always been this bad or is it just the media coverage that brings it to light??? A young guy is killed because the teenage punks felt like killing someone for the fun of it.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...97J0QK20130820
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08-20-2013, 11:57 AM #2Hucked to flat once
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Whether it's done in anger or ignorance, the population is sliding:
http://www.ktvb.com/news/Boy-dies-af...220369411.html
"Here son, I want you to act as a weight so this mattress doesn't blow out of the truck..."
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08-20-2013, 11:59 AM #3
how many, random minority types have been shot, since that happened?
no one cares, yeah?
pretty, white, baseball player.
headline news.crab in my shoe mouth
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08-20-2013, 12:03 PM #4
Malchicks
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08-20-2013, 12:14 PM #5
Oklahoma, same disaster state as Ohio, right?
Terje was right.
"We're all kooks to somebody else." -Shelby Menzel
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08-20-2013, 12:15 PM #6
Ummmm... I think anytime an innocent bystander is killed it makes headline news. I remember the young girl in chicago that made new twice, first when she was killed, then when the empress spoke at her funeral.
I read about shootings everyday in my local news, this story is a little bit different. Three pieces of shit went out to kill someone for fun. It doesn't matter if it was a white baseball player from australia, it is pretty alarming that there are kids out there that are planning this shit.
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08-20-2013, 12:17 PM #7
Meh. It's always been this bad, you just didn't hear about it as much because of media inundation.
Case in point: child abductions are down dramatically in the last 30 years, but the ones that do happen you hear about a lot more. This has the opposite effect on (often yuppy, white, suburban) uninformed parents who don't let their kids run around the neighborhood unstructured anymore. I have yet to have kids, but we're sure as fuck not going to refer to our future kids hanging out with their friends as "play dates."
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08-20-2013, 12:31 PM #8Registered User
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Read any statistic you want: Crime, and violent crime in particular, is down dramatically over the past 10-15 years. There was a great article in the Economist a few weeks back. Apparently the credit goes to more effective law enforcement and the technology that makes it possible. Crime don't pay more than ever.
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08-20-2013, 12:38 PM #9When the categories get conflated, the statistics can become confusing. Take the number 800,000: It's true that 797,500 people under 18 were reported missing in a one-year period, according to a 2002 study. But of those cases, 203,900 were family abductions, 58,200 were nonfamily abductions, and only 115 were "stereotypical kidnappings," defined in one study as "a nonfamily abduction perpetrated by a slight acquaintance or stranger in which a child is detained overnight, transported at least 50 miles, held for ransom or abducted with the intent to keep the child permanently, or killed." Even these categories can be misleading: Overstaying a visit with a noncustodial parent, for example, could qualify as a family abduction. Some individuals get entered into the database multiple times after disappearing on different occasions, resulting in potentially misleading numbers.
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08-20-2013, 12:40 PM #10Good-lookin' wool
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I think every generation, when they reach a certain point, decide that the world is going to shit. You just don't care enough to pay attention when you are younger. Coupled with the increased availability of information, as LR said, and you get the newest generation of doomsdayers. Our species have always been brutal I think. Some really sick bastards in every period of time. I am sure that the Cuban Missile Crisis and Elvis Presley presented plenty of opportunities for people to think the world was on a short walk to hell. And now that I am a bit older, I can't help but be just as pessimistic despite the above.
If I'm wrong, I'll just chalk it up to meth and video games.
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08-20-2013, 12:56 PM #11Hugh Conway Guest
The amount of information accessible to the literate human with internet access is many many orders of magnitude greater than that was available to the learned scribe with a library of 100 years ago. Humans are, somewhat, as they've always been. Which is why processing this vast trove of information is difficult and they generally fall back to cliche, emotion, fear mongering and bullshit.
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08-20-2013, 01:00 PM #12
Reading this thread, I immediately thought of this quote which has been attributed to Socrates:
Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.
It wasn't this generation of youth that allowed the Holocaust to happen, brought us to the brink of nuclear war, got us into vietnam, iraq, afghanistan...
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08-20-2013, 01:04 PM #13
The media's job is to scare you and foster a sense of outrage.
Mission accomplished....Some will fall in love with life and drink it from a fountain that is pouring like an avalanche coming down the mountain...
"I enjoy skinny skiing, bullfights on acid..." - Lacy Underalls
The problems we face will not be solved by the minds that created them.
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08-20-2013, 01:09 PM #14
Literally happens everyday. YOU, dont always hear about it. You think all murders make Google front page and nightline?
Last night, on my nightly skateboard ride, some buffed tattooed ghetto kids were playing football in the street, one says, "hit him", and throws the football at me. I casually catch it, and throw it to the next guy, they cheer, and I high five the "leader" on the way by and made new friends right then and there. I woke to this story in OK, and was amazed that this happened to me last night.
I did not go agro, I took the high road, and more and more educated humans are taking this course all over the world.Terje was right.
"We're all kooks to somebody else." -Shelby Menzel
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08-20-2013, 01:12 PM #15
Good point. If only that Australian kid had just caught the bullet and thrown it back...
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08-20-2013, 01:13 PM #16
I don't always agree with Hugh, but he's spot on here. It's access to information that makes humanity seem so terrible these days. The current story you refer to sucks indeed, but previous generations have sucked equally as bad, if not worse. What about overall racism, sexism, homophobia, genocide, etc.? What about lynchings? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynchin..._United_States "The most for any year was 231 in 1892. From 1882 to 1901, lynchings averaged more than 150 a year. Since 1924, lynchings have been in a marked decline, never more than 30 cases, which occurred in 1926."
Yes, humanity can be awful, BUT I've say we've come a long, long way as a society. Sure we've devolved in some ways, but we've improved in others.
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08-20-2013, 01:18 PM #17
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08-20-2013, 01:19 PM #18Terje was right.
"We're all kooks to somebody else." -Shelby Menzel
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08-20-2013, 01:40 PM #19
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08-20-2013, 01:49 PM #20
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08-20-2013, 02:04 PM #21Hugh Conway Guest
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08-20-2013, 02:14 PM #22
None of my neighbors or friends would resort to murder as a cure for boredom.
I was bored a lot as a young man. When I was 21 I suggested to my good friends, as we sat around bored and wondering what to do with ourselves, that we give backpacking a try. The thought of killing someone never even crossed our minds. I still go on week long trips with those same guys over 20 years later....Some will fall in love with life and drink it from a fountain that is pouring like an avalanche coming down the mountain...
"I enjoy skinny skiing, bullfights on acid..." - Lacy Underalls
The problems we face will not be solved by the minds that created them.
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08-20-2013, 02:15 PM #23
Yeah, but he did say it, and I know that a perspective earned is gleaned from righteousness lived.
Once we climb the last hurdle of equality in the USA, ALL of the USA, you will keep seeing the steady decline of certain types of violence. Oklahoma? Still not there.Terje was right.
"We're all kooks to somebody else." -Shelby Menzel
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08-20-2013, 02:24 PM #24
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