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07-03-2013, 11:25 PM #51
So glad I live in Alaska.
But Ellen kicks ass - if she had a beard it would be much more haggard. -Jer
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07-04-2013, 06:30 AM #52
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07-04-2013, 09:30 AM #53
I have had to drink water straight out of the Innoko an Iditarod rivers, like when the boat ran out of gas I had cruised past literally over 100 beaver lodges tons of moose and bears. No ill effects. Maybe I've got an immunity, either way that incident changed my way of thinking.
But Ellen kicks ass - if she had a beard it would be much more haggard. -Jer
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07-04-2013, 10:05 AM #54
^Or lucky. I've seen people drink the water between tussocks on fires in the Interior with no ill effects so I wouldn't say that it's widespread, but OTOH I've known a couple people that got giardia from drinking out of creeks. <shrug> I didn't like drinking water in the bush that I wasn't sure of.
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07-04-2013, 10:29 AM #55
True, and come to think of it there's no villages to speak of upstream from where I was drinking.
But Ellen kicks ass - if she had a beard it would be much more haggard. -Jer
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07-05-2013, 02:35 AM #56not awesome
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Water purification methods are very much situation dependent. I would choose different methods for, say, hiking in the Grand Canyon; hiking in California or Colorado mountains in/below a valley that sees a lot of backpacker camping; and hiking above campsites or in little traveled areas in winter/spring with mostly snow above you.
Also, group size matters, I have carried a First Need filter for myself which is silly because it's heavy, but for a group of four it's the bomb because the weight averages out and it pumps fast and reliable.
I doubt you really need to worry about virus filtering in the BC in most US or generally 1st world countries. Some people use a virus-capable filter (like the First Need) to filter any water, including/especially city water, in developing countries.
Bad water is one of those low-probability, high consequence risks that is difficult to evaluate. You never know if the purification was necessary or if the water was safe anyway. I kind of believe the claim that bad water in the BC is rare and poor hygiene is more often a cause of backpackers who get sick. However, I wouldn't want to roll the dice on, say, a 1 in 100 chance per trip in well used areas that humans or livestock have been pooping too close to water above me.
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01-07-2015, 03:17 AM #57Registered User
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01-18-2015, 09:07 AM #58
Iodine crystals.Easy to use.Small non-liquid bottle.Cheap.Lasts many years.Kills all bugs/viruses/parasites.Can be used to clean cuts too
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01-18-2015, 12:45 PM #59
Surprised that no one as mentioned this, but if your going for a day why don't you just take enough water? Hydrate before you go, take a liter or two, more if it's hot, have a bottle waiting in the car when you get back.
If it gets to an emergency situation just drink up, bugs and all.
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01-20-2015, 09:04 AM #60glocal
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01-20-2015, 09:52 AM #61Registered User
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01-20-2015, 11:42 AM #62
This question is actually location, climate, and task dependent. This is my favorite subject and through extension, my job. If you guys haven't read about SODIS, look it up. It isn't perfected for high latitude use yet but advancements to cut timing down were made and I am preparing to do some PhD work on altitude and climate studies in addition to some social justice applications.
Someone once told me that I ski like a Scandinavian angel.
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01-20-2015, 08:51 PM #63Registered User
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I use a platypus gravity works. its not particularly heavy though you can puncture it if you not careful. best part is that it requires no hands (pumps are for chumps afterall) and you can set it up to just drink through the filter if you want.
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01-21-2015, 09:15 PM #64glocal
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I don't really understand how it purifies water, but this is the first google return on SODIS:
http://www.reddit.com/r/bravefrontie...n_chief_sodis/
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12-27-2015, 09:47 PM #65Registered User
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There's a reason they gave us lifestraws in the military
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12-31-2015, 03:12 PM #66
Ha, I was gonna say "surprised nobody has said lifestraws"
small, lightweight, easy to use, inexpensive. checks all the boxes
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01-05-2016, 03:48 PM #67
Splat for the win!
Sodis is solar disinfection. Should show up on pubmed and maybe a few public publishing sites.
Basically, it depends on a few variables but in simplest form oxygenation and solar UV plus IR can clean water in a couple hours between the meridians. Faster in specialized containers. I intend to work out contributions to this in high altitude (more UV and IR) and non tropical applications. I also hope to use some novel design models for containers to decrease time in tropical locations.Someone once told me that I ski like a Scandinavian angel.
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01-05-2016, 03:49 PM #68
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01-09-2016, 10:07 PM #69Registered User
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I use a Steripen when hiking near 'clearer' bodies of water such as creeks or lakes. If the rivers are muddy or silty, use a pump filter.
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01-09-2016, 11:48 PM #70
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01-16-2016, 01:22 PM #71Registered User
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steripen rocks!
i've used a steripen in ground water in nepal, bhutan, congo . . . never a problem. do carry an extra set of batteries. it's the best.
please be very careful about using iodine anything more than sporadically, it's just not good for your health.
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01-23-2016, 06:32 AM #72Registered User
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Steripen
Only weighs 3 oz and I don't have to worry about it freezing.
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01-26-2016, 10:52 AM #73
Sawyer mini ftmfw!
Treat large amounts or use as a straw(lifestraw eq. but lighter)...
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01-26-2016, 10:57 AM #74
Yup, Sawyer Squeeze or Sawyer Mini, but note that those are filters, not purifiers.
We seldom filter in the high country in the WA Cascades and Olympics
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01-26-2016, 11:33 AM #75
One more Steripen vote, with qualifiers. I try to plan hikes so that I don't need to get water from silty sources. For longer hikes, I bring an extra set of batteries. Steripens are just so fast and effective, it is hard to beat. But I understand there are circumstances where they aren't the best choice.
Also,
JigaRex Universal Ski Mounting Jig
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