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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColMan View Post
    Curious if any of you have tried cryosurgery or ablative radiofrequency for your MN? I've been doing a bunch of reading and it sound promising. Not necessarily a permanent fix but worst case I may get 1-2 years pain free while I punch the heck out of my boots, get into wider shoes, etc. Quick recovery as well so I wouldn't lose much more than a week of skiing. Heck, I'm already losing a couple weeks while I wait to get into the doctor. Still hoping some of the other things I'm trying will work (some based on recommendations in this thread) but I have a feeling the scar tissue is pretty thick at this point so cryo/RF may not even be an option.
    Never heard of it, but curious now. Iíve almost resolved myself to have surgery on my right foot now. Iím several years out form the surgery on my left foot and its still *mostly* pain free.

  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by zion zig zag View Post
    Never heard of it, but curious now. I’ve almost resolved myself to have surgery on my right foot now. I’m several years out form the surgery on my left foot and its still *mostly* pain free.
    Good info here on cryo and RF ablation: https://www.mortonsneuroma.com/morto.../non-surgical/

    Sounds promising but only an 80% or so success rate.

  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColMan View Post
    Good info here on cryo and RF ablation: https://www.mortonsneuroma.com/morto.../non-surgical/

    Sounds promising but only an 80% or so success rate.
    80% sounds good to me!

    That site is interesting. Says women suffer more. All those pointy shoes etc.
    makes sense.

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    I blame Lange and technica. I jammed my foot into narrow lasts for way too many days. Oh well. It was fun.

  4. #104
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    Also reading about cutting intermetatarsal ligament to release pressure on the nerve as an alternative to a neurectomy. Less invasive but I don't like the idea of cutting a ligament in the foot of an athlete. Also doesn't work if the scar tissue growth is beyond a certain size.

    On another note, I'm trying pulsed magnetic sessions 3 times a week to see if it has any benefit from a pain management perspective and to hopefully stop gimping around. Inexpensive so I figured what the heck. Had my first session this past Monday and it did jack shit, but we'll see how it goes with a few more.

  5. #105
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    Here are my recs from getting MN from a too-narrow pair of Dalbellos:

    - Blow out/punch the first and fifth met (basically the wide part of your forefront) in all your boots. Do it now.
    - Invest in footbeds with a metpad bump. Both for skiing and regular/everyday/non-skiing use. Sole makes footbeds with met pad bumps that I put in all my footwear. For ski boots, custom footbeds, but Soles might work too.
    - At home, I have slides with a metpad bump. In summer, I swap for flip-flops with the metpad bump. This helps a ton for avoiding walking on hard, flat surfaces (like wood floors) that do no favors for MN.
    - Add stretching your foot to your exercise stuff. Before/after skiing, etc. Don't overthink it - just move it around.

    I went from horrible MN to almost never feeling it now. No surgery required. If you already are having MN from this ski season though, it may require taking off your ski boots for a few months for you (so, next summer) to see marked improvement. Nerves take a long time to heal. Suerte.
    Last edited by meter-man; 01-25-2023 at 11:04 AM.
    sproing!

  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by meter-man View Post
    Here are my recs from getting MN from a too-narrow pair of Dalbellos:

    - Blow out/punch the first and fifth met (basically the wide part of your forefront) in all your boots. Do it new.
    - Invest in footbeds with a metpad bump. Both for skiing and regular/everyday/non-skiing use. Sole makes footbeds with met pad bumps that I put in all my footwear. For ski boots, custom footbeds, but Soles might work too.
    - At home, I have slides with a metpad bump. In summer, I swap for flip-flops with the metpad bump. This helps a ton for avoiding walking on hard, flat surfaces (like wood floors) that do not favors for MN.
    - Add stretching your foot to your exercise stuff. Before/after skiing, etc. Don't overthink it - just move it around.

    I went from horrible MN to almost never feeling it now. No surgery required. If you already are having MN from this ski season though, it may require taking off your ski boots for a few months for you (so, next summer) to see marked improvement. Nerves take a long time to heal. Suerte.
    Very true. Surgery is a scam.
    Mn starts from narrow shoes, mechanical issue, and it's fixed by removing that.

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  7. #107
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    Stretching, proper meta pad insoles and slides, never ever EVER walk barefoot anywhere has been my mantra with 80% success in keeping the pain at bay. If it gets real bad, toe separators at 20-30 minutes on work wonders for me as well.
    And self foot massage especially after snowboarding.
    I have Redi-Thodics Comfort Plus Met Pad orthotics and they are amazing. And from my doc they are $40/pair out the door.

  8. #108
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    ladd the metatarsal pads to the footbeds.

  9. #109
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    Got a cortisone shot in the nerve last Wednesday. Seems to help quite a bit but not 100%. Was able walk normally a few days later and also to ski for 2 hours on Sunday with my two front buckles unbuckled (only pain was when I moved my foot off the footbed while in line, no pain while skiing). Going to keep it to kid days for now while I see how things shake out. Boots finally getting punched this week.

  10. #110
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    I've had to blow out the whole 5th metatarsal/5th toe area on one boot. Added a bunch of room. SOLE also has good met pad insoles. Size them to the boot not your foot, otherwise they will take up too much space in there.

  11. #111
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    Intuition FX and HD race have plenty of room in the forefoot while having snug fit for skinny calves. My neuromas haven't bothered me since I started using the HD's. That's in Technica Mach 1 130 LV's.

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