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01-24-2023, 04:10 PM #101
Good info here on cryo and RF ablation: https://www.mortonsneuroma.com/morto.../non-surgical/
Sounds promising but only an 80% or so success rate.
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01-24-2023, 04:32 PM #102
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01-25-2023, 10:09 AM #103
Also reading about cutting intermetatarsal ligament to release pressure on the nerve as an alternative to a neurectomy. Less invasive but I don't like the idea of cutting a ligament in the foot of an athlete. Also doesn't work if the scar tissue growth is beyond a certain size.
On another note, I'm trying pulsed magnetic sessions 3 times a week to see if it has any benefit from a pain management perspective and to hopefully stop gimping around. Inexpensive so I figured what the heck. Had my first session this past Monday and it did jack shit, but we'll see how it goes with a few more.
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01-25-2023, 10:36 AM #104
Here are my recs from getting MN from a too-narrow pair of Dalbellos:
- Blow out/punch the first and fifth met (basically the wide part of your forefront) in all your boots. Do it now.
- Invest in footbeds with a metpad bump. Both for skiing and regular/everyday/non-skiing use. Sole makes footbeds with met pad bumps that I put in all my footwear. For ski boots, custom footbeds, but Soles might work too.
- At home, I have slides with a metpad bump. In summer, I swap for flip-flops with the metpad bump. This helps a ton for avoiding walking on hard, flat surfaces (like wood floors) that do no favors for MN.
- Add stretching your foot to your exercise stuff. Before/after skiing, etc. Don't overthink it - just move it around.
I went from horrible MN to almost never feeling it now. No surgery required. If you already are having MN from this ski season though, it may require taking off your ski boots for a few months for you (so, next summer) to see marked improvement. Nerves take a long time to heal. Suerte.Last edited by meter-man; 01-25-2023 at 12:04 PM.
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01-25-2023, 11:15 AM #105Rod9301
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01-25-2023, 02:11 PM #106
Stretching, proper meta pad insoles and slides, never ever EVER walk barefoot anywhere has been my mantra with 80% success in keeping the pain at bay. If it gets real bad, toe separators at 20-30 minutes on work wonders for me as well.
And self foot massage especially after snowboarding.
I have Redi-Thodics Comfort Plus Met Pad orthotics and they are amazing. And from my doc they are $40/pair out the door.
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01-30-2023, 01:52 AM #107Banned
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ladd the metatarsal pads to the footbeds.
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02-06-2023, 01:18 PM #108
Got a cortisone shot in the nerve last Wednesday. Seems to help quite a bit but not 100%. Was able walk normally a few days later and also to ski for 2 hours on Sunday with my two front buckles unbuckled (only pain was when I moved my foot off the footbed while in line, no pain while skiing). Going to keep it to kid days for now while I see how things shake out. Boots finally getting punched this week.
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02-21-2023, 12:49 PM #109Registered User
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I've had to blow out the whole 5th metatarsal/5th toe area on one boot. Added a bunch of room. SOLE also has good met pad insoles. Size them to the boot not your foot, otherwise they will take up too much space in there.
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02-21-2023, 01:40 PM #110
Intuition FX and HD race have plenty of room in the forefoot while having snug fit for skinny calves. My neuromas haven't bothered me since I started using the HD's. That's in Technica Mach 1 130 LV's.
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08-13-2023, 01:02 AM #111
Not a fan. Lots of on my feet lately and man this shit hurts a lot.
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11-18-2023, 09:45 PM #112
Well fuck. Just read this thread and I'm like 80% sure I have this in my left foot from a too narrow pair of Dalbellos last year. Had to stop mid run today and take my foot out of my boot it was so bad.
I spend 90% of my summer in Sperry Topsiders (almost barefoot) this is not doing me any favors? I never feel it except for ski boots, and then usually only when touring after about 40 minutes, then real bad once I transition and tighten my boots up (I forget if it was a problem in alpine boots last year but I don't think so) and this one pair of approach shoes on long hikes.
As its the start of ski season I would love to head this off before it gets worse? I suppose there is no way to heal it once it has started? Anything I can do before my tour tomorrow or is it best to stay off it until I have a solution in place?
Should I go see a podiatrist, or what steps should I take?The whole human race is de evolving; it is due to birth control, smart people use birth control, and stupid people keep pooping out more stupid babies.
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11-18-2023, 10:29 PM #113Registered User
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If you have any friends w recs for a podiatrist in your area, I’d start there. It’s an aggravated nerve and it’s definitely possible for it to go away. Sometimes toe spacers help relive the pressure
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11-18-2023, 10:51 PM #114Rod9301
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For me, a prp injection 4 years ago fixed it.
This after 3 years of trying everything else
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11-18-2023, 11:01 PM #115
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11-18-2023, 11:03 PM #116Registered User
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11-18-2023, 11:07 PM #117
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11-18-2023, 11:10 PM #118
I started using SOLE footbeds with the met pad bumps in all of my footwear, including slides I use at home in lieu of barefoot. Don’t underestimate your non ski footwear.
For ski boots, I blew it out the first and fifth met heads on my boots. Slightly less lateral control but no more screaming pain. At first, I put met pad bumps on my insoles but eventually realized I just needed more lateral space.
I have no more MN pain. Maybe 1-2 days a year down from 120-150. No surgical or medical interventions. YMMV.
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11-19-2023, 03:56 AM #119
Yep. Done all the above except for the toe spacers and toe socks
My custom ski footbeds with a sweet met bump combined with wider boots were a game changer.
Finally got around to using better footbeds in my now wide street and hiking shoes. Haven’t gone custom. But the cheapest A Line soles I can feel a nice met bump.
And yes. It’s only my right foot. Which I blame on JH. That whole sidecountry involves so much step up traverses on the right foot. And I did too many seasons on a really tight fit technica
And yes. I used to take off my right boot at lunch.
A bit of freedom and massage helps. Also helps to put your bare foot on an ice cube or snow.
PS. Hadn’t heard of prp. Interesting.
https://www.mortonsneuroma.com/morto...t-rich-plasma/
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11-19-2023, 10:01 AM #120Rod9301
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11-19-2023, 10:04 AM #121Rod9301
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And, i was drunk when i write my prp post. I confused it with my plantar fasciitis.
For mortons, all i had to do was make sure that my ski boots and all my shoes were wide enough in the forefoot that there was no pressure side to side.
Mortons is caused by mechanical issues (tight shoes) and it shoved by eliminating them. It takes a while though
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11-19-2023, 08:00 PM #122
If it's only in ski boots chances are you can deal with it fairly easily. Step one would be to ski with top buckles tight and lower just tight enough to stay closed. That has worked for me and I have long established plantar neuromas. Hopefully the heel ankle fit is good enough to do that without compromising control. Maybe a replacement liner with low volume in the forefoot. Plantar neuroma symptoms can result from too LOOSE boots because people crank them down to compensate.
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11-19-2023, 08:40 PM #123
Just punch out your shells. Twice if needed.
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12-24-2023, 11:10 AM #125
Still fighting this, but have been moving the right direction. Currently good until about the 3 hour tour mark, then things start to go downhill managbly, but i shudder to think of a 5 hour tour.
Trying to decide my next move, wondering if I should do another small punch, or try and get custom orthotics made. The SOLE inserts did help, but my main question is this:
For those who have tried both will a pedortho make something better, or will it just be a $250 version of the SOLE product?
The boots aren't exactly a tight fit, so hesitant to keep punching, unless that's what I have to do.The whole human race is de evolving; it is due to birth control, smart people use birth control, and stupid people keep pooping out more stupid babies.
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