Are you fat? Do you like it? What would you do different next time?

**gravitylover** · 04-20-2014, 02:13 PM

Hmmph. I'm riding this bike faster than I rode my Enduro the last few years. I'm cornering better, laying it down further and trusting the tires that much more. I'm finding the front end generally easier to control, maybe it's the light action and precise feel of the rigid carbon fork? I'm also sprinting and climbing better, that's gotta be because it's rigid. I do miss more turn exits than I've grown accustomed to though because of the bounce and the additional rotational mass pulling the bike to the outside of the turn but that can be worked with and overcome. The rigidness (I like my new word

) has it's own set of challenges but thankfully I rode mt bikes for a loooong time before there was suspension so the skillset is there I just have to remember where I put it. I miss being able to preload the suspension for log-overs and I get more pedal strikes than I'd like but again those are challenges to work around not problems that can't be overcome. I think my decision has been made. I have a few bikes for sale

Start with this -
07 Enduro S Works size small - XO shifters and rear der with XTR front der - Stylo Team double with bash 24-36 - XO Trail brakes - DT wheels with XTR cassette and 20mm front - 36 Talas in great shape - needs rear shock (DHX 5 air (stock)) rebuild but works sufficiently well to just go out and beat it up - I have extra der. hangers - tell me what size tire you like between 2.1 and 2.5 I probably have something you'll like and I'll give it a full drivetrain service before I take your money. pm for celly and we'll talk $$

I need to get out on my old HT and decide if that needs to go, I'm pretty sure there's still a reason to keep it but money talks. I also have a full rigid abuse machine for ~$400 that should go, again pm for digits.

**Benny Profane** · 04-25-2014, 11:15 AM

WalMart special

http://forums.thepaceline.net/attach...1&d=1398444800

**gravitylover** · 05-06-2014, 11:12 AM

Benny = little hope

Trailwork

Up up up

Gotta get a pic of my kid in here

third place last week but first in points in NY State NICA this year for freshman/sophomore girls! Gonna get on top of that podium this Sunday for sure. C'mon up to Stewart and ring a cowbell for the kid as she kills it!

**Rontele** · 05-07-2014, 05:59 PM

So...

Moving to Boston at the end of the year so a majority of my riding will be transitioning from Colorado singletrack to east coast riding (never ridden east of Michigan). Anyways, I am in the queue to have Walt Wehner build me a new bike and originally was going to have him put together a low, slack Krampus style rigid 29er. Other option would be for more of a hardtail 29er...Looks like gravitylover and scrubby are using the fat bikes out east with ease.

On that note, what should I expect with regard to riding? I'm fine with mediocre skiing so long as there is good riding

**buttahflake** · 05-07-2014, 06:49 PM

fuck that noise, i own a fat.
you want a five inch trail bike, wheel size is up to you.
this is where you ride said five inch.
http://ascutneytrails.com/

**Rontele** · 05-07-2014, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by buttahflake

http://ascutneytrails.com/

That looks good. Where else? I have heard of the Kingdom Trails, but that is realistically something I'll hit once or twice a year.

SB · 05-08-2014, 04:43 AM

Welcome to the camp, I guess we all know why your here.

Many good trails to ride. Definitely check the fats, Salsa's new FS fat has got my eye. That and a nice hardtail for buffed out tracks/gravel roads or add a 5"+ bike for those funner rides.

http://www.dirtragdirtfest.com/

http://www.gpstrailsource.com/parks/...rippis-trails/

**Sirshredalot** · 05-08-2014, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Rontele

That looks good. Where else? I have heard of the Kingdom Trails, but that is realistically something I'll hit once or twice a year.

I know in your other thread somebody mentioned Bradley-Palmer. I prefer Willowdale, just north of it.

**gravitylover** · 05-13-2014, 11:39 AM

Blah blah OT ^^

Back on track -

**iscariot** · 05-13-2014, 02:01 PM

Got my Fatboy last week. Holy shit that's fun.

**gravitylover** · 05-13-2014, 03:13 PM

Sooper fun! Now that I've finally gotten it out on the beach I really have run the gamut of possible conditions. I think the only stuff I'd avoid is all out chunky rock gardens but if that's what's in front of me I'll live. My other bikes don't get ridden anymore...

**iscariot** · 05-13-2014, 04:53 PM

I'm riding it like its a regular hardtail...except it can also go places and on terrain types where a regular hardtail would be a struggle.

Simple. Climbs well. So stable on descents. Rolls over everything I've encountered.

Puts a big smile on my face.

AND puts a smile on the faces of those hiking, walking, and biking that I encounter. Great at breaking down user group barriers. Which is nice.

**scrublover** · 05-14-2014, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Rontele

So...

Moving to Boston at the end of the year so a majority of my riding will be transitioning from Colorado singletrack to east coast riding (never ridden east of Michigan). Anyways, I am in the queue to have Walt Wehner build me a new bike and originally was going to have him put together a low, slack Krampus style rigid 29er. Other option would be for more of a hardtail 29er...Looks like gravitylover and scrubby are using the fat bikes out east with ease.

On that note, what should I expect with regard to riding? I'm fine with mediocre skiing so long as there is good riding

HIJACK

That 'oughta work well for a general burly hardtail bike out here. Lots of flexibility there to play around with tire sizes and rigid vs. squishy forked. Really, anything works out here, just (obviously) tailor it to your riding preferences. Only bike or adding to the stable? I've only ridden with you twice I think, and haven't got a clue what your pedaling about nowadays.

I love my Fatty - it's a hell of a lot of fun to ride, but... No way in hell would it be my only ride. As an ancillary ride, it's great. If living somewhere with more/better snow than I am, that opinion might differ.

A good 5-6" pedal-able bike, slightly over-forked, 1x something drive-train, dropper post equipped, toobless tire setup ride out here is TITS, IMO. Lighter/beefier wheels and tires to suit your tastes and trails. If I could only have one bike, it'd be along these lines. Thankfully, I don't only have to have one bike.

The Fatty, the hardtail, and the 7" bike all get their time, but I'd say the TRc gets the majority of ride time. I took it for a long weekend with some riding around Douthat, VA recently and was completely over-biked - I had to actively seek out anything even remotely technical to make it worthwhile for that bike. No wonder the 29er hardtail is king down there. OTOH, the climbs fucking crushed me, because the local this has so little vert. Potato, potatoh.

Warning: gross generalizations ahead.
Riding out here (and the riding areas/community) I have found to be very different than out west. Not in a better or worse way, just different. We seem to be seen far less as nature destroying hooligans out here. Much more of a libertarian mindset - "those dudes riding their bikes in the woods aren't bugging me, so I won't bug them" more or less.

It's all shorter ups and downs with lots of tight bits in trees and slow speed chunky tech mixed in with higher speed smoother stuff. Long ass bits of contiguous climbing, descending, and baby ass smooth bits are far less prevalent. The name for a lot of the riding is cross-stuntry. Skinnies and way more trialsy side options on which to play/drop/roll out here than around CO, if you are into that sort of thing.

Now, this will all depend on where exactly you end up, your preferences, and what your local spots end up being of course.

**TahoeBC** · 05-14-2014, 10:44 AM

If you have the clearance on your Fatbike for a 29+ tire, I'm finding it makes for a fun alternative for summer riding. 3" Surly knards for now but there will be a few more tire options soon in the 29+ category. I'm climbing up stuff I've never cleaned on any bike, but it's also the first time I've tried 29er wheels.

About to convert to tubeless but I've been running around 9 1/2 pounds of pressure with no problems with tubes.

It will raise your bottom bracket some, but I'm not finding it to be an issue for me.

This wheelset makes my 26" wheels look pretty small!

**Shredhead** · 05-14-2014, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by iscariot

AND puts a smile on the faces of those hiking, walking, and biking that I encounter. Great at breaking down user group barriers. Which is nice.

When I roll through the hood, the brothers go nuts.

**gravitylover** · 05-14-2014, 07:22 PM

^^ Funny you say that because we have been selling more fattys to "city types" that have no desire to ever ride them outside NYC. They see it in the window and come in and drop the coin. Then they over accessorize them. One guy last week even had us put monster ape hangers on his Fatboy!

Once more scrubby nails it. Hijack accepted.

SB · 05-31-2014, 06:47 AM

Surly ice cream truck, replacement for the Moolandr. Needs a better name.

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**gravitylover** · 05-31-2014, 07:15 AM

I caught a "rumor" the other day about a 4" travel 650B full squish machine with a 5" tire capacity coming out in time for next winter. I know what's on my wish list...

**ticketchecker** · 06-01-2014, 04:45 PM

My unicorn has 5" of travel with 26+ wheels, baby fat....

**gravitylover** · 06-01-2014, 09:42 PM

Hell yeah, I love unicorns

Skepticism appreciated. I'll try to have some better details late next week. Just calling 'em as I see (hear) 'em.

**ticketchecker** · 06-02-2014, 06:26 AM

I'm serious, that's my dream bike. After riding fat my regular bike with 2.35 Hans Dampf's makes me nervous. Like I'm gonna fall over. The surly instigator looks cool but FS would be awesomer

SB · 06-02-2014, 06:39 AM

Went to the local Salsa dealio to hump their leg about the buzzkill. Hardcore bikerchica sez come back in August but me thinks I will scope her out sum mores.

**ticketchecker** · 06-04-2014, 07:11 AM

Buzzkill might be my best option for baby fat, could use the regular 27.5 fork that is leaning in my office. Would like a bit more travel though.

**gravitylover** · 06-13-2014, 09:51 AM

Confirmed. Well as close to confirmed as possible anyway. Final details should be available before the end of July. From what I know so far it sounds like it won't be cheap but it will be THE quiver killer.